Warren Commission was correct........Oswald acted alone

[Soupnazi630]

Methinks we as a people just can't accept that JFK, who was a respected and handsome president in his time, could be off'd so easily

~S~

There is some truth to that.

One of the motives behind conspiracy theories is a rejection of the idea that such a random act can have such world changing consequences. Many conspiracy fools find solace in believing that there is a conspiracy as in SOMEBODY is in charge and such random acts are not random.

Reality teaches us something different however. Such random acts are in fact common and sometimes do in fact change history.

Even Jackie Kennedy sympathized with this view. In an interview she stated that she may have found some solace if her husband had been killed for political reasons such as for his support of civil rights. It would have made him something of a martyr and his death easier to deal with. Instead she had to live with the fact that he was murdered by an obscure random nobody who was seeking to make himself more important.

 

[mudwhistle]

My Team SGT was in Quantico, the FBI's training academy for sniper training, and he said to some of the agents there that JFK was probably caught in a shooters triangle and ended up being hit from two directions. Kennedy's back brace made it difficult if not impossible for him to duck once the first bullet flew by him. They put him in an extremely low riding car with low sides. He was a sitting duck. So chances are at the very least....it was a conspiracy.

Oh yes.....the Grassy Knoll

Which brings about the question of the three shots. If there were two shooters with the President’s car in a crossfire ....why did they only manage to get off three shots?

Why were three expended cartridges found in the sixth floor shooters nest?

Probably to cover up the fact it was more than one shooter.
Nobody knows when those 3 cartridges were fired.
And I wonder why Oswald left those cartridges behind?
Literally planting evidence.
But what was weird how witnesses said Oswald's fingerprints weren't on those shells.
Somebody else's were.

Actually that is incorrect only his prints were found on the casings.

It is typical for people to leave expended casings behind. Especially if they are fatalistic and know they have little chance of escape, HE left the entire rifle behind although he made a half hearted attempt to hide it.

True no one can prove when they were fired but we can prove that they and all of the recovered bullets were fired through HIS rifle to the exclusion of any other rifle. We can prove that the bullets were fired THAT day through Oswald's rifle which makes your implication that the casings were planted a lost cause.

You cannot get much more damning than that.

The problem with that is you can't prove it.
You can't prove any of it because you don't have access to the evidence.
Nobody had access to it because it was sealed for a number of years and some of the evidence disappeared.

Quite wrong.

The evidence has never been " sealed " it is maintained in government archives like any evidence. True any member of public cannot just waltz in and look at it at leisure but it is in fact available for public scrutiny when proper channels and protocols are followed. That is true for evidence in any criminal case.

SO yes in can we can prove it and prove it overwhelmingly.

Yes......everything was done properly....according to a corrupt government in Washington.
And no...you cannot prove anything you say because you aren't in the government.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Oh yes.....the Grassy Knoll

Which brings about the question of the three shots. If there were two shooters with the President’s car in a crossfire ....why did they only manage to get off three shots?

Why were three expended cartridges found in the sixth floor shooters nest?

Probably to cover up the fact it was more than one shooter.
Nobody knows when those 3 cartridges were fired.
And I wonder why Oswald left those cartridges behind?
Literally planting evidence.
But what was weird how witnesses said Oswald's fingerprints weren't on those shells.
Somebody else's were.

Actually that is incorrect only his prints were found on the casings.

It is typical for people to leave expended casings behind. Especially if they are fatalistic and know they have little chance of escape, HE left the entire rifle behind although he made a half hearted attempt to hide it.

True no one can prove when they were fired but we can prove that they and all of the recovered bullets were fired through HIS rifle to the exclusion of any other rifle. We can prove that the bullets were fired THAT day through Oswald's rifle which makes your implication that the casings were planted a lost cause.

You cannot get much more damning than that.

The problem with that is you can't prove it.
You can't prove any of it because you don't have access to the evidence.
Nobody had access to it because it was sealed for a number of years and some of the evidence disappeared.

Quite wrong.

The evidence has never been " sealed " it is maintained in government archives like any evidence. True any member of public cannot just waltz in and look at it at leisure but it is in fact available for public scrutiny when proper channels and protocols are followed. That is true for evidence in any criminal case.

SO yes in can we can prove it and prove it overwhelmingly.

Yes......everything was done properly....according to a corrupt government in Washington.
And no...you cannot prove anything you say because you aren't in the government.

Yes I can because the evidence proves it and contrary to your false claim it is available to be viewed with proper safeguards.

But we are exposing another motive for conspiracy theories.

You refuse to look at evidence and simply believe anything any conspiracy fool tells you because it is a partisan issue to you. It is ironic that people who think that way are the ones truly naive and gullible while accusing others of being naive and gullible.

Rather than fall hook line and sinker for anything a conspiracy nut tells you try fact checking it. Try reading the Warren Commission report which you clearly have never done.

Everyone knows that the government is capable of corruption. Conspiracy theorists have no monopoly on awareness of that fact although they claim to have it. The fact is that no government can be corrupt about EVERYTHING all the time. Therefore it follows that they have to get it right and tell the basic truth at least sometimes.

The argument that government is corrupt and therefore there was a conspiracy is an illogical and self defeating argument.

 

[rightwinger]

Probably to cover up the fact it was more than one shooter.
Nobody knows when those 3 cartridges were fired.
And I wonder why Oswald left those cartridges behind?
Literally planting evidence.
But what was weird how witnesses said Oswald's fingerprints weren't on those shells.
Somebody else's were.

Actually that is incorrect only his prints were found on the casings.

It is typical for people to leave expended casings behind. Especially if they are fatalistic and know they have little chance of escape, HE left the entire rifle behind although he made a half hearted attempt to hide it.

True no one can prove when they were fired but we can prove that they and all of the recovered bullets were fired through HIS rifle to the exclusion of any other rifle. We can prove that the bullets were fired THAT day through Oswald's rifle which makes your implication that the casings were planted a lost cause.

You cannot get much more damning than that.

The problem with that is you can't prove it.
You can't prove any of it because you don't have access to the evidence.
Nobody had access to it because it was sealed for a number of years and some of the evidence disappeared.

Quite wrong.

The evidence has never been " sealed " it is maintained in government archives like any evidence. True any member of public cannot just waltz in and look at it at leisure but it is in fact available for public scrutiny when proper channels and protocols are followed. That is true for evidence in any criminal case.

SO yes in can we can prove it and prove it overwhelmingly.

Yes......everything was done properly....according to a corrupt government in Washington.
And no...you cannot prove anything you say because you aren't in the government.

Yes I can because the evidence proves it and contrary to your false claim it is available to be viewed with proper safeguards.

But we are exposing another motive for conspiracy theories.

You refuse to look at evidence and simply believe anything any conspiracy fool tells you because it is a partisan issue to you. It is ironic that people who think that way are the ones truly naive and gullible while accusing others of being naive and gullible.

Rather than fall hook line and sinker for anything a conspiracy nut tells you try fact checking it. Try reading the Warren Commission report which you clearly have never done.

Everyone knows that the government is capable of corruption. Conspiracy theorists have no monopoly on awareness of that fact although they claim to have it. The fact is that no government can be corrupt about EVERYTHING all the time. Therefore it follows that they have to get it right and tell the basic truth at least sometimes.

The argument that government is corrupt and therefore there was a conspiracy is an illogical and self defeating argument.

Conspiracy theorists have a unique way of demanding more evidence while ignoring evidence that is presented

 

[Dale Smith]

On November 21, 1963 Oswald learned the JFK motorcade would be passing by his window at work the next day. So he went home, brought his rifle to work the next morning and fired three shots at the President. One of which blew his brains out

That is all there is

Yeah, it's normal for a bullet to hit someone from the rear and force his head backwards.

It is actually.

Two major reasons for this exist one is known as the jet effect the other is neurological reflex. When the nervous system is damaged signals are fired randomly down the nervous system causing the body to have bizarre and unpredictable reactions which can in fact move the body ( or head ) in exactly the opposite or direction one would expect. Trauma to the head is especially likely to cause this.

The jet effect helps by pushing a column of tissue and blood ahead of the bullet. This column exits first and pushes back.

Bullets do not push the head or body very far at all to begin with. When bullets hit for example in the torso victims often have no visible reaction at all. We tend to think bodies will move away from the direction of the bullets travel because we have seen it happen a thousand times in movies and on tv.

Another factor unique to Kennedy is the heavy back brace and ace bandage he wore wrapped around his lower like a parachute harness or like a piece of S and M gear. Kennedy suffered from severe back problems and wore this back brace reinforced by an ace bandage for most of his adult life.

Essentially it held his upper body somewhat rigid so that is something pushed on his head there would have been a springboard effect

My Team SGT was in Quantico, the FBI's training academy for sniper training, and he said to some of the agents there that JFK was probably caught in a shooters triangle and ended up being hit from two directions. Kennedy's back brace made it difficult if not impossible for him to duck once the first bullet flew by him. They put him in an extremely low riding car with low sides. He was a sitting duck. So chances are at the very least....it was a conspiracy.

Oh yes.....the Grassy Knoll

Which brings about the question of the three shots. If there were two shooters with the President’s car in a crossfire ....why did they only manage to get off three shots?

Why were three expended cartridges found in the sixth floor shooters nest?

It was a magic bullet!!!! ROTFLMAO!

Finding three bullet casings by the very same ones that were part of the conspiracy would only impress someone like you with limited abilities to think. There were at least six shooters along Elm street. Some were mob hit men and others were CIA assets. Oswald never fired a shot. The only print on the bolt action rifle was that of his palm that was put on the butt of the rifle after he was toe-tagged.

 

[candycorn]

On November 21, 1963 Oswald learned the JFK motorcade would be passing by his window at work the next day. So he went home, brought his rifle to work the next morning and fired three shots at the President. One of which blew his brains out

That is all there is

doubtful

 

[Soupnazi630]

On November 21, 1963 Oswald learned the JFK motorcade would be passing by his window at work the next day. So he went home, brought his rifle to work the next morning and fired three shots at the President. One of which blew his brains out

That is all there is

Yeah, it's normal for a bullet to hit someone from the rear and force his head backwards.

It is actually.

Two major reasons for this exist one is known as the jet effect the other is neurological reflex. When the nervous system is damaged signals are fired randomly down the nervous system causing the body to have bizarre and unpredictable reactions which can in fact move the body ( or head ) in exactly the opposite or direction one would expect. Trauma to the head is especially likely to cause this.

The jet effect helps by pushing a column of tissue and blood ahead of the bullet. This column exits first and pushes back.

Bullets do not push the head or body very far at all to begin with. When bullets hit for example in the torso victims often have no visible reaction at all. We tend to think bodies will move away from the direction of the bullets travel because we have seen it happen a thousand times in movies and on tv.

Another factor unique to Kennedy is the heavy back brace and ace bandage he wore wrapped around his lower like a parachute harness or like a piece of S and M gear. Kennedy suffered from severe back problems and wore this back brace reinforced by an ace bandage for most of his adult life.

Essentially it held his upper body somewhat rigid so that is something pushed on his head there would have been a springboard effect

My Team SGT was in Quantico, the FBI's training academy for sniper training, and he said to some of the agents there that JFK was probably caught in a shooters triangle and ended up being hit from two directions. Kennedy's back brace made it difficult if not impossible for him to duck once the first bullet flew by him. They put him in an extremely low riding car with low sides. He was a sitting duck. So chances are at the very least....it was a conspiracy.

Oh yes.....the Grassy Knoll

Which brings about the question of the three shots. If there were two shooters with the President’s car in a crossfire ....why did they only manage to get off three shots?

Why were three expended cartridges found in the sixth floor shooters nest?

It was a magic bullet!!!! ROTFLMAO!

Finding three bullet casings by the very same ones that were part of the conspiracy would only impress someone like you with limited abilities to think. There were at least six shooters along Elm street. Some were mob hit men and others were CIA assets. Oswald never fired a shot. The only print on the bolt action rifle was that of his palm that was put on the butt of the rifle after he was toe-tagged.

Bullets are not magical. The magic bullet theory was invented by conspiracy theorists. Jim Garrison claimed to have been the one who invented the term but many loonies have repeated the story. Unfortunately it is a proven myth which you have clearly fallen for.

You are using a circular argument which like all circular argument is self defeating . Your premise is there was a conspiracy which planted evidence and the planted evidence is what proves the conspiracy. But you have no evidence that it WAS planted or that there was a conspiracy. The casings were proven to have been cycled through Oswald's rifle as were ALL of the recovered bullets and bullet fragments. This is not evidence of multiple shooters it is evidence of ONE shooter.

The palm print was not on the butt it was found on the receiver which is exactly where it would be found after he dis assembled and re assembled the rifle. He was dead when they found it but it was not put there.

You have no evidence of multiple shooters. It is nothing more than a partisan myth

 

[Soupnazi630]

On November 21, 1963 Oswald learned the JFK motorcade would be passing by his window at work the next day. So he went home, brought his rifle to work the next morning and fired three shots at the President. One of which blew his brains out

That is all there is

doubtful

Not doubtful at all as it is what the evidence proves.

 

[mudwhistle]

Yeah, it's normal for a bullet to hit someone from the rear and force his head backwards.

It is actually.

Two major reasons for this exist one is known as the jet effect the other is neurological reflex. When the nervous system is damaged signals are fired randomly down the nervous system causing the body to have bizarre and unpredictable reactions which can in fact move the body ( or head ) in exactly the opposite or direction one would expect. Trauma to the head is especially likely to cause this.

The jet effect helps by pushing a column of tissue and blood ahead of the bullet. This column exits first and pushes back.

Bullets do not push the head or body very far at all to begin with. When bullets hit for example in the torso victims often have no visible reaction at all. We tend to think bodies will move away from the direction of the bullets travel because we have seen it happen a thousand times in movies and on tv.

Another factor unique to Kennedy is the heavy back brace and ace bandage he wore wrapped around his lower like a parachute harness or like a piece of S and M gear. Kennedy suffered from severe back problems and wore this back brace reinforced by an ace bandage for most of his adult life.

Essentially it held his upper body somewhat rigid so that is something pushed on his head there would have been a springboard effect

My Team SGT was in Quantico, the FBI's training academy for sniper training, and he said to some of the agents there that JFK was probably caught in a shooters triangle and ended up being hit from two directions. Kennedy's back brace made it difficult if not impossible for him to duck once the first bullet flew by him. They put him in an extremely low riding car with low sides. He was a sitting duck. So chances are at the very least....it was a conspiracy.

Oh yes.....the Grassy Knoll

Which brings about the question of the three shots. If there were two shooters with the President’s car in a crossfire ....why did they only manage to get off three shots?

Why were three expended cartridges found in the sixth floor shooters nest?

It was a magic bullet!!!! ROTFLMAO!

Finding three bullet casings by the very same ones that were part of the conspiracy would only impress someone like you with limited abilities to think. There were at least six shooters along Elm street. Some were mob hit men and others were CIA assets. Oswald never fired a shot. The only print on the bolt action rifle was that of his palm that was put on the butt of the rifle after he was toe-tagged.

Bullets are not magical. The magic bullet theory was invented by conspiracy theorists. Jim Garrison claimed to have been the one who invented the term but many loonies have repeated the story. Unfortunately it is a proven myth which you have clearly fallen for.

You are using a circular argument which like all circular argument is self defeating . Your premise is there was a conspiracy which planted evidence and the planted evidence is what proves the conspiracy. But you have no evidence that it WAS planted or that there was a conspiracy. The casings were proven to have been cycled through Oswald's rifle as were ALL of the recovered bullets and bullet fragments. This is not evidence of multiple shooters it is evidence of ONE shooter.

The palm print was not on the butt it was found on the receiver which is exactly where it would be found after he dis assembled and re assembled the rifle. He was dead when they found it but it was not put there.

You have no evidence of multiple shooters. It is nothing more than a partisan myth

Well, the absence of evidence means one of two things, either somebody destroyed evidence, which we know is the case, or you may be right. However, Oswald appears to not have the skill to pull this off. At best, it was pure luck.

 

[Soupnazi630]

It is actually.

Two major reasons for this exist one is known as the jet effect the other is neurological reflex. When the nervous system is damaged signals are fired randomly down the nervous system causing the body to have bizarre and unpredictable reactions which can in fact move the body ( or head ) in exactly the opposite or direction one would expect. Trauma to the head is especially likely to cause this.

The jet effect helps by pushing a column of tissue and blood ahead of the bullet. This column exits first and pushes back.

Bullets do not push the head or body very far at all to begin with. When bullets hit for example in the torso victims often have no visible reaction at all. We tend to think bodies will move away from the direction of the bullets travel because we have seen it happen a thousand times in movies and on tv.

Another factor unique to Kennedy is the heavy back brace and ace bandage he wore wrapped around his lower like a parachute harness or like a piece of S and M gear. Kennedy suffered from severe back problems and wore this back brace reinforced by an ace bandage for most of his adult life.

Essentially it held his upper body somewhat rigid so that is something pushed on his head there would have been a springboard effect

My Team SGT was in Quantico, the FBI's training academy for sniper training, and he said to some of the agents there that JFK was probably caught in a shooters triangle and ended up being hit from two directions. Kennedy's back brace made it difficult if not impossible for him to duck once the first bullet flew by him. They put him in an extremely low riding car with low sides. He was a sitting duck. So chances are at the very least....it was a conspiracy.

Oh yes.....the Grassy Knoll

Which brings about the question of the three shots. If there were two shooters with the President’s car in a crossfire ....why did they only manage to get off three shots?

Why were three expended cartridges found in the sixth floor shooters nest?

It was a magic bullet!!!! ROTFLMAO!

Finding three bullet casings by the very same ones that were part of the conspiracy would only impress someone like you with limited abilities to think. There were at least six shooters along Elm street. Some were mob hit men and others were CIA assets. Oswald never fired a shot. The only print on the bolt action rifle was that of his palm that was put on the butt of the rifle after he was toe-tagged.

Bullets are not magical. The magic bullet theory was invented by conspiracy theorists. Jim Garrison claimed to have been the one who invented the term but many loonies have repeated the story. Unfortunately it is a proven myth which you have clearly fallen for.

You are using a circular argument which like all circular argument is self defeating . Your premise is there was a conspiracy which planted evidence and the planted evidence is what proves the conspiracy. But you have no evidence that it WAS planted or that there was a conspiracy. The casings were proven to have been cycled through Oswald's rifle as were ALL of the recovered bullets and bullet fragments. This is not evidence of multiple shooters it is evidence of ONE shooter.

The palm print was not on the butt it was found on the receiver which is exactly where it would be found after he dis assembled and re assembled the rifle. He was dead when they found it but it was not put there.

You have no evidence of multiple shooters. It is nothing more than a partisan myth

Well, the absence of evidence means one of two things, either somebody destroyed evidence, which we know is the case, or you may be right. However, Oswald appears to not have the skill to pull this off. At best, it was pure luck.

There is no absence of evidence.
'
The evidence exists and is overwhelming that Oswald shot Kennedy. The absence of evidence of a conspiracy means there was no conspiracy. You cannot point to an absence of evidence and use it AS evidence that there was one.

In fact Oswald did have the skill. He needed no skill to be there he worked there and was employed there well before the motorcade route was planned so being there required no skill. Oswald was a Marine and the Marines have the best basic rifle marksmanship training in the military. He was rated a sharpshooter and had experience hunting.

The actually shooting skill needed was not that challenging. Kennedy was less than 100 yards away moving very slowly and almost directly away from Oswald;s point of view. This makes for a very easy shot or shots which any soldier, marine or even the average deer hunter could have made.

Anyone with some shooting experience can easily look out of the windows of the sixth floor of the texas school book depository and realize it was no problem at all for Oswald to have hit Kennedy 2 out of 3 times.

 

[mudwhistle]

On November 21, 1963 Oswald learned the JFK motorcade would be passing by his window at work the next day. So he went home, brought his rifle to work the next morning and fired three shots at the President. One of which blew his brains out

That is all there is

Yeah, it's normal for a bullet to hit someone from the rear and force his head backwards.

It is actually.

Two major reasons for this exist one is known as the jet effect the other is neurological reflex. When the nervous system is damaged signals are fired randomly down the nervous system causing the body to have bizarre and unpredictable reactions which can in fact move the body ( or head ) in exactly the opposite or direction one would expect. Trauma to the head is especially likely to cause this.

The jet effect helps by pushing a column of tissue and blood ahead of the bullet. This column exits first and pushes back.

Bullets do not push the head or body very far at all to begin with. When bullets hit for example in the torso victims often have no visible reaction at all. We tend to think bodies will move away from the direction of the bullets travel because we have seen it happen a thousand times in movies and on tv.

Another factor unique to Kennedy is the heavy back brace and ace bandage he wore wrapped around his lower like a parachute harness or like a piece of S and M gear. Kennedy suffered from severe back problems and wore this back brace reinforced by an ace bandage for most of his adult life.

Essentially it held his upper body somewhat rigid so that is something pushed on his head there would have been a springboard effect

My Team SGT was in Quantico, the FBI's training academy for sniper training, and he said to some of the agents there that JFK was probably caught in a shooters triangle and ended up being hit from two directions. Kennedy's back brace made it difficult if not impossible for him to duck once the first bullet flew by him. They put him in an extremely low riding car with low sides. He was a sitting duck. So chances are at the very least....it was a conspiracy.

Oh yes.....the Grassy Knoll

Which brings about the question of the three shots. If there were two shooters with the President’s car in a crossfire ....why did they only manage to get off three shots?

Why were three expended cartridges found in the sixth floor shooters nest?

It was a magic bullet!!!! ROTFLMAO!

Finding three bullet casings by the very same ones that were part of the conspiracy would only impress someone like you with limited abilities to think. There were at least six shooters along Elm street. Some were mob hit men and others were CIA assets. Oswald never fired a shot. The only print on the bolt action rifle was that of his palm that was put on the butt of the rifle after he was toe-tagged.

No, Soupnazi says that's all misinformation.
We must learn to STFU and trust the government to always do what they're supposed to do.

I think that after seeing THE GOVERNMENT at work the last couple of years, doing that is illogical if not foolish.

The government is only as good as the people you place in positions of responsibility. And when you have people like Obama and Hillary in charge, people who can't be expected to follow the same laws the rest of us do, people who feel they are above the law, no investigation is beyond scrutiny. The fact that little screwups and major blunders are so easily swept under the rug, we have learned we cannot just trust what our public officials tell us anymore because of corruption that is becoming more and more prevalent. The corruption was always there, it's just more out in the open now. When it comes to politics, the truth is highly subjective.

But trust this guy, Soupnazi. He knows all of the details.

 

[mudwhistle]

My Team SGT was in Quantico, the FBI's training academy for sniper training, and he said to some of the agents there that JFK was probably caught in a shooters triangle and ended up being hit from two directions. Kennedy's back brace made it difficult if not impossible for him to duck once the first bullet flew by him. They put him in an extremely low riding car with low sides. He was a sitting duck. So chances are at the very least....it was a conspiracy.

Oh yes.....the Grassy Knoll

Which brings about the question of the three shots. If there were two shooters with the President’s car in a crossfire ....why did they only manage to get off three shots?

Why were three expended cartridges found in the sixth floor shooters nest?

It was a magic bullet!!!! ROTFLMAO!

Finding three bullet casings by the very same ones that were part of the conspiracy would only impress someone like you with limited abilities to think. There were at least six shooters along Elm street. Some were mob hit men and others were CIA assets. Oswald never fired a shot. The only print on the bolt action rifle was that of his palm that was put on the butt of the rifle after he was toe-tagged.

Bullets are not magical. The magic bullet theory was invented by conspiracy theorists. Jim Garrison claimed to have been the one who invented the term but many loonies have repeated the story. Unfortunately it is a proven myth which you have clearly fallen for.

You are using a circular argument which like all circular argument is self defeating . Your premise is there was a conspiracy which planted evidence and the planted evidence is what proves the conspiracy. But you have no evidence that it WAS planted or that there was a conspiracy. The casings were proven to have been cycled through Oswald's rifle as were ALL of the recovered bullets and bullet fragments. This is not evidence of multiple shooters it is evidence of ONE shooter.

The palm print was not on the butt it was found on the receiver which is exactly where it would be found after he dis assembled and re assembled the rifle. He was dead when they found it but it was not put there.

You have no evidence of multiple shooters. It is nothing more than a partisan myth

Well, the absence of evidence means one of two things, either somebody destroyed evidence, which we know is the case, or you may be right. However, Oswald appears to not have the skill to pull this off. At best, it was pure luck.

There is no absence of evidence.
'
The evidence exists and is overwhelming that Oswald shot Kennedy. The absence of evidence of a conspiracy means there was no conspiracy. You cannot point to an absence of evidence and use it AS evidence that there was one.

In fact Oswald did have the skill. He needed no skill to be there he worked there and was employed there well before the motorcade route was planned so being there required no skill. Oswald was a Marine and the Marines have the best basic rifle marksmanship training in the military. He was rated a sharpshooter and had experience hunting.

The actually shooting skill needed was not that challenging. Kennedy was less than 100 yards away moving very slowly and almost directly away from Oswald;s point of view. This makes for a very easy shot or shots which any soldier, marine or even the average deer hunter could have made.

Anyone with some shooting experience can easily look out of the windows of the sixth floor of the texas school book depository and realize it was no problem at all for Oswald to have hit Kennedy 3 out of 3 times.

I guess nerves and adrenaline never plays a part in shooting.
A hired killer would have no problem scoring 3 out of 3.
A scared nutcase, probably not.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Yeah, it's normal for a bullet to hit someone from the rear and force his head backwards.

It is actually.

Two major reasons for this exist one is known as the jet effect the other is neurological reflex. When the nervous system is damaged signals are fired randomly down the nervous system causing the body to have bizarre and unpredictable reactions which can in fact move the body ( or head ) in exactly the opposite or direction one would expect. Trauma to the head is especially likely to cause this.

The jet effect helps by pushing a column of tissue and blood ahead of the bullet. This column exits first and pushes back.

Bullets do not push the head or body very far at all to begin with. When bullets hit for example in the torso victims often have no visible reaction at all. We tend to think bodies will move away from the direction of the bullets travel because we have seen it happen a thousand times in movies and on tv.

Another factor unique to Kennedy is the heavy back brace and ace bandage he wore wrapped around his lower like a parachute harness or like a piece of S and M gear. Kennedy suffered from severe back problems and wore this back brace reinforced by an ace bandage for most of his adult life.

Essentially it held his upper body somewhat rigid so that is something pushed on his head there would have been a springboard effect

My Team SGT was in Quantico, the FBI's training academy for sniper training, and he said to some of the agents there that JFK was probably caught in a shooters triangle and ended up being hit from two directions. Kennedy's back brace made it difficult if not impossible for him to duck once the first bullet flew by him. They put him in an extremely low riding car with low sides. He was a sitting duck. So chances are at the very least....it was a conspiracy.

Oh yes.....the Grassy Knoll

Which brings about the question of the three shots. If there were two shooters with the President’s car in a crossfire ....why did they only manage to get off three shots?

Why were three expended cartridges found in the sixth floor shooters nest?

It was a magic bullet!!!! ROTFLMAO!

Finding three bullet casings by the very same ones that were part of the conspiracy would only impress someone like you with limited abilities to think. There were at least six shooters along Elm street. Some were mob hit men and others were CIA assets. Oswald never fired a shot. The only print on the bolt action rifle was that of his palm that was put on the butt of the rifle after he was toe-tagged.

No, Soupnazi says that's all misinformation.
We must learn to STFU and trust the government to always do what they're supposed to do.

I think that after seeing THE GOVERNMENT at work the last couple of years, doing that is illogical if not foolish.

The government is only as good as the people you place in positions of responsibility. And when you have people like Obama and Hillary in charge, people who can't be expected to follow the same laws the rest of us do, people who feel they are above the law, no investigation is beyond scrutiny. The fact that little screwups and major blunders are so easily swept under the rug, we have learned we cannot just trust what our public officials tell us anymore because of corruption that is becoming more and more prevalent. The corruption was always there, it's just more out in the open now. When it comes to politics, the truth is highly subjective.

But trust this guy, Soupnazi. He knows all of the details.

I never said a word about misinformation.

Once again as I have mentioned before finding corruption in government does not prove that there is ALWAYS corruption all the time.

NO I have never said to trust me I have stated what the evidence shows. Trust the evidence and not what some salesman wants you to believe because they are trying to sell a book or movie. What makes you think that conspiracy theorists are any more honest or less corrupt than anyone else? You think they have pure motives and no reason to lie?

What evidence do you have? SO far you have been striking out.

The government conducted one of the most comprehensive and exhaustive investigations into history into the death of Kennedy and they have a mountain of evidence. Which you willfully ignore and instead trust some lame video made by some douchebag on youtube.

Yes the government can lie yes it is sometimes corrupt and yes there are sometimes conspiracies in government. What government conspiracies all have in common however is that they do not last. The truth comes tumbling out. Watergate, Iran contra and many other times governments have engaged in conspiracies and in no time the scandal breaks.

Yet in JFK no one has evidence but endless claims and assertions of conspiracy.Apparently these geniuses were able to pull off a spectacular murder and leave no evidence that they did it but still enough indication that they did it so that everyone knows it but cannot prove it.

The simplest explanation tends to be the truth and the simplest explanation for JFK is that Oswald was in the right place at the right time and committed the murder. The conspiracy theories are unrealistic, illogical and simply ludicrous.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Oh yes.....the Grassy Knoll

Which brings about the question of the three shots. If there were two shooters with the President’s car in a crossfire ....why did they only manage to get off three shots?

Why were three expended cartridges found in the sixth floor shooters nest?

It was a magic bullet!!!! ROTFLMAO!

Finding three bullet casings by the very same ones that were part of the conspiracy would only impress someone like you with limited abilities to think. There were at least six shooters along Elm street. Some were mob hit men and others were CIA assets. Oswald never fired a shot. The only print on the bolt action rifle was that of his palm that was put on the butt of the rifle after he was toe-tagged.

Bullets are not magical. The magic bullet theory was invented by conspiracy theorists. Jim Garrison claimed to have been the one who invented the term but many loonies have repeated the story. Unfortunately it is a proven myth which you have clearly fallen for.

You are using a circular argument which like all circular argument is self defeating . Your premise is there was a conspiracy which planted evidence and the planted evidence is what proves the conspiracy. But you have no evidence that it WAS planted or that there was a conspiracy. The casings were proven to have been cycled through Oswald's rifle as were ALL of the recovered bullets and bullet fragments. This is not evidence of multiple shooters it is evidence of ONE shooter.

The palm print was not on the butt it was found on the receiver which is exactly where it would be found after he dis assembled and re assembled the rifle. He was dead when they found it but it was not put there.

You have no evidence of multiple shooters. It is nothing more than a partisan myth

Well, the absence of evidence means one of two things, either somebody destroyed evidence, which we know is the case, or you may be right. However, Oswald appears to not have the skill to pull this off. At best, it was pure luck.

There is no absence of evidence.
'
The evidence exists and is overwhelming that Oswald shot Kennedy. The absence of evidence of a conspiracy means there was no conspiracy. You cannot point to an absence of evidence and use it AS evidence that there was one.

In fact Oswald did have the skill. He needed no skill to be there he worked there and was employed there well before the motorcade route was planned so being there required no skill. Oswald was a Marine and the Marines have the best basic rifle marksmanship training in the military. He was rated a sharpshooter and had experience hunting.

The actually shooting skill needed was not that challenging. Kennedy was less than 100 yards away moving very slowly and almost directly away from Oswald;s point of view. This makes for a very easy shot or shots which any soldier, marine or even the average deer hunter could have made.

Anyone with some shooting experience can easily look out of the windows of the sixth floor of the texas school book depository and realize it was no problem at all for Oswald to have hit Kennedy 3 out of 3 times.

I guess nerves and adrenaline never plays a part in shooting.
A hired killer would have no problem scoring 3 out of 3.
A scared nutcase, probably not.

I corrected that to 2 out of 3 times.

Of course nerves and adrenaline can pay a role they may have in fact played a role in Oswald missing the first shot. But the claim that they effect someone does not argue that he was innocent after all if it did then NO One would be guilty of murder with a gun.

So a scared nutcase probably yes.

 

[rightwinger]

On November 21, 1963 Oswald learned the JFK motorcade would be passing by his window at work the next day. So he went home, brought his rifle to work the next morning and fired three shots at the President. One of which blew his brains out

That is all there is

Yeah, it's normal for a bullet to hit someone from the rear and force his head backwards.

It is actually.

Two major reasons for this exist one is known as the jet effect the other is neurological reflex. When the nervous system is damaged signals are fired randomly down the nervous system causing the body to have bizarre and unpredictable reactions which can in fact move the body ( or head ) in exactly the opposite or direction one would expect. Trauma to the head is especially likely to cause this.

The jet effect helps by pushing a column of tissue and blood ahead of the bullet. This column exits first and pushes back.

Bullets do not push the head or body very far at all to begin with. When bullets hit for example in the torso victims often have no visible reaction at all. We tend to think bodies will move away from the direction of the bullets travel because we have seen it happen a thousand times in movies and on tv.

Another factor unique to Kennedy is the heavy back brace and ace bandage he wore wrapped around his lower like a parachute harness or like a piece of S and M gear. Kennedy suffered from severe back problems and wore this back brace reinforced by an ace bandage for most of his adult life.

Essentially it held his upper body somewhat rigid so that is something pushed on his head there would have been a springboard effect

My Team SGT was in Quantico, the FBI's training academy for sniper training, and he said to some of the agents there that JFK was probably caught in a shooters triangle and ended up being hit from two directions. Kennedy's back brace made it difficult if not impossible for him to duck once the first bullet flew by him. They put him in an extremely low riding car with low sides. He was a sitting duck. So chances are at the very least....it was a conspiracy.

Oh yes.....the Grassy Knoll

Which brings about the question of the three shots. If there were two shooters with the President’s car in a crossfire ....why did they only manage to get off three shots?

Why were three expended cartridges found in the sixth floor shooters nest?

It was a magic bullet!!!! ROTFLMAO!

Finding three bullet casings by the very same ones that were part of the conspiracy would only impress someone like you with limited abilities to think. There were at least six shooters along Elm street. Some were mob hit men and others were CIA assets. Oswald never fired a shot. The only print on the bolt action rifle was that of his palm that was put on the butt of the rifle after he was toe-tagged.

Magic bullets are another fantasy by conspiracy theorists
Ballistics have shown them wrong

The rest of your screed is just typical Crazy Dale

 

[mudwhistle]

It was a magic bullet!!!! ROTFLMAO!

Finding three bullet casings by the very same ones that were part of the conspiracy would only impress someone like you with limited abilities to think. There were at least six shooters along Elm street. Some were mob hit men and others were CIA assets. Oswald never fired a shot. The only print on the bolt action rifle was that of his palm that was put on the butt of the rifle after he was toe-tagged.

Bullets are not magical. The magic bullet theory was invented by conspiracy theorists. Jim Garrison claimed to have been the one who invented the term but many loonies have repeated the story. Unfortunately it is a proven myth which you have clearly fallen for.

You are using a circular argument which like all circular argument is self defeating . Your premise is there was a conspiracy which planted evidence and the planted evidence is what proves the conspiracy. But you have no evidence that it WAS planted or that there was a conspiracy. The casings were proven to have been cycled through Oswald's rifle as were ALL of the recovered bullets and bullet fragments. This is not evidence of multiple shooters it is evidence of ONE shooter.

The palm print was not on the butt it was found on the receiver which is exactly where it would be found after he dis assembled and re assembled the rifle. He was dead when they found it but it was not put there.

You have no evidence of multiple shooters. It is nothing more than a partisan myth

Well, the absence of evidence means one of two things, either somebody destroyed evidence, which we know is the case, or you may be right. However, Oswald appears to not have the skill to pull this off. At best, it was pure luck.

There is no absence of evidence.
'
The evidence exists and is overwhelming that Oswald shot Kennedy. The absence of evidence of a conspiracy means there was no conspiracy. You cannot point to an absence of evidence and use it AS evidence that there was one.

In fact Oswald did have the skill. He needed no skill to be there he worked there and was employed there well before the motorcade route was planned so being there required no skill. Oswald was a Marine and the Marines have the best basic rifle marksmanship training in the military. He was rated a sharpshooter and had experience hunting.

The actually shooting skill needed was not that challenging. Kennedy was less than 100 yards away moving very slowly and almost directly away from Oswald;s point of view. This makes for a very easy shot or shots which any soldier, marine or even the average deer hunter could have made.

Anyone with some shooting experience can easily look out of the windows of the sixth floor of the texas school book depository and realize it was no problem at all for Oswald to have hit Kennedy 3 out of 3 times.

I guess nerves and adrenaline never plays a part in shooting.
A hired killer would have no problem scoring 3 out of 3.
A scared nutcase, probably not.

I corrected that to 2 out of 3 times.

Of course nerves and adrenaline can pay a role they may have in fact played a role in Oswald missing the first shot. But the claim that they effect someone does not argue that he was innocent after all if it did then NO One would be guilty of murder with a gun.

So a scared nutcase probably yes.

If he missed the first shot, this can cause panic, and then the shooter would be shooting wildly, not accurately.
Unless he had a spotter to tell him how to adjust his fire.
I've been in live life or death situations, and hitting the target isn't always easy when you're scared or unsure of your weapon. For a hired killer, the setup was perfect. As matter of fact, it was too perfect not to be a conspiracy.


I think the only way you can say for sure you have an accurate simulation is take some scared inexperienced Jarhead up there thinking he was committing murder, and simulate the same exact conditions, heat, humidity, time of day, etc, and then you'd get some sort of idea what he had to deal with.

 

[Muhammed]

On November 21, 1963 Oswald learned the JFK motorcade would be passing by his window at work the next day. So he went home, brought his rifle to work the next morning and fired three shots at the President. One of which blew his brains out

That is all there is

Oswald was working for the Anunnaki. Reptilian people from another planet.

 

[rightwinger]

It is actually.

Two major reasons for this exist one is known as the jet effect the other is neurological reflex. When the nervous system is damaged signals are fired randomly down the nervous system causing the body to have bizarre and unpredictable reactions which can in fact move the body ( or head ) in exactly the opposite or direction one would expect. Trauma to the head is especially likely to cause this.

The jet effect helps by pushing a column of tissue and blood ahead of the bullet. This column exits first and pushes back.

Bullets do not push the head or body very far at all to begin with. When bullets hit for example in the torso victims often have no visible reaction at all. We tend to think bodies will move away from the direction of the bullets travel because we have seen it happen a thousand times in movies and on tv.

Another factor unique to Kennedy is the heavy back brace and ace bandage he wore wrapped around his lower like a parachute harness or like a piece of S and M gear. Kennedy suffered from severe back problems and wore this back brace reinforced by an ace bandage for most of his adult life.

Essentially it held his upper body somewhat rigid so that is something pushed on his head there would have been a springboard effect

My Team SGT was in Quantico, the FBI's training academy for sniper training, and he said to some of the agents there that JFK was probably caught in a shooters triangle and ended up being hit from two directions. Kennedy's back brace made it difficult if not impossible for him to duck once the first bullet flew by him. They put him in an extremely low riding car with low sides. He was a sitting duck. So chances are at the very least....it was a conspiracy.

Oh yes.....the Grassy Knoll

Which brings about the question of the three shots. If there were two shooters with the President’s car in a crossfire ....why did they only manage to get off three shots?

Why were three expended cartridges found in the sixth floor shooters nest?

It was a magic bullet!!!! ROTFLMAO!

Finding three bullet casings by the very same ones that were part of the conspiracy would only impress someone like you with limited abilities to think. There were at least six shooters along Elm street. Some were mob hit men and others were CIA assets. Oswald never fired a shot. The only print on the bolt action rifle was that of his palm that was put on the butt of the rifle after he was toe-tagged.

Bullets are not magical. The magic bullet theory was invented by conspiracy theorists. Jim Garrison claimed to have been the one who invented the term but many loonies have repeated the story. Unfortunately it is a proven myth which you have clearly fallen for.

You are using a circular argument which like all circular argument is self defeating . Your premise is there was a conspiracy which planted evidence and the planted evidence is what proves the conspiracy. But you have no evidence that it WAS planted or that there was a conspiracy. The casings were proven to have been cycled through Oswald's rifle as were ALL of the recovered bullets and bullet fragments. This is not evidence of multiple shooters it is evidence of ONE shooter.

The palm print was not on the butt it was found on the receiver which is exactly where it would be found after he dis assembled and re assembled the rifle. He was dead when they found it but it was not put there.

You have no evidence of multiple shooters. It is nothing more than a partisan myth

Well, the absence of evidence means one of two things, either somebody destroyed evidence, which we know is the case, or you may be right. However, Oswald appears to not have the skill to pull this off. At best, it was pure luck.

And that is core of conspiracy theories

That the absence of evidence is their evidence

 

[mudwhistle]

My Team SGT was in Quantico, the FBI's training academy for sniper training, and he said to some of the agents there that JFK was probably caught in a shooters triangle and ended up being hit from two directions. Kennedy's back brace made it difficult if not impossible for him to duck once the first bullet flew by him. They put him in an extremely low riding car with low sides. He was a sitting duck. So chances are at the very least....it was a conspiracy.

Oh yes.....the Grassy Knoll

Which brings about the question of the three shots. If there were two shooters with the President’s car in a crossfire ....why did they only manage to get off three shots?

Why were three expended cartridges found in the sixth floor shooters nest?

It was a magic bullet!!!! ROTFLMAO!

Finding three bullet casings by the very same ones that were part of the conspiracy would only impress someone like you with limited abilities to think. There were at least six shooters along Elm street. Some were mob hit men and others were CIA assets. Oswald never fired a shot. The only print on the bolt action rifle was that of his palm that was put on the butt of the rifle after he was toe-tagged.

Bullets are not magical. The magic bullet theory was invented by conspiracy theorists. Jim Garrison claimed to have been the one who invented the term but many loonies have repeated the story. Unfortunately it is a proven myth which you have clearly fallen for.

You are using a circular argument which like all circular argument is self defeating . Your premise is there was a conspiracy which planted evidence and the planted evidence is what proves the conspiracy. But you have no evidence that it WAS planted or that there was a conspiracy. The casings were proven to have been cycled through Oswald's rifle as were ALL of the recovered bullets and bullet fragments. This is not evidence of multiple shooters it is evidence of ONE shooter.

The palm print was not on the butt it was found on the receiver which is exactly where it would be found after he dis assembled and re assembled the rifle. He was dead when they found it but it was not put there.

You have no evidence of multiple shooters. It is nothing more than a partisan myth

Well, the absence of evidence means one of two things, either somebody destroyed evidence, which we know is the case, or you may be right. However, Oswald appears to not have the skill to pull this off. At best, it was pure luck.

And that is core of conspiracy theories

That the absence of evidence is their evidence

Yes. Same thing with Russian Collusion.
A non-crime being investigate with no end in sight.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Bullets are not magical. The magic bullet theory was invented by conspiracy theorists. Jim Garrison claimed to have been the one who invented the term but many loonies have repeated the story. Unfortunately it is a proven myth which you have clearly fallen for.

You are using a circular argument which like all circular argument is self defeating . Your premise is there was a conspiracy which planted evidence and the planted evidence is what proves the conspiracy. But you have no evidence that it WAS planted or that there was a conspiracy. The casings were proven to have been cycled through Oswald's rifle as were ALL of the recovered bullets and bullet fragments. This is not evidence of multiple shooters it is evidence of ONE shooter.

The palm print was not on the butt it was found on the receiver which is exactly where it would be found after he dis assembled and re assembled the rifle. He was dead when they found it but it was not put there.

You have no evidence of multiple shooters. It is nothing more than a partisan myth

Well, the absence of evidence means one of two things, either somebody destroyed evidence, which we know is the case, or you may be right. However, Oswald appears to not have the skill to pull this off. At best, it was pure luck.

There is no absence of evidence.
'
The evidence exists and is overwhelming that Oswald shot Kennedy. The absence of evidence of a conspiracy means there was no conspiracy. You cannot point to an absence of evidence and use it AS evidence that there was one.

In fact Oswald did have the skill. He needed no skill to be there he worked there and was employed there well before the motorcade route was planned so being there required no skill. Oswald was a Marine and the Marines have the best basic rifle marksmanship training in the military. He was rated a sharpshooter and had experience hunting.

The actually shooting skill needed was not that challenging. Kennedy was less than 100 yards away moving very slowly and almost directly away from Oswald;s point of view. This makes for a very easy shot or shots which any soldier, marine or even the average deer hunter could have made.

Anyone with some shooting experience can easily look out of the windows of the sixth floor of the texas school book depository and realize it was no problem at all for Oswald to have hit Kennedy 3 out of 3 times.

I guess nerves and adrenaline never plays a part in shooting.
A hired killer would have no problem scoring 3 out of 3.
A scared nutcase, probably not.

I corrected that to 2 out of 3 times.

Of course nerves and adrenaline can pay a role they may have in fact played a role in Oswald missing the first shot. But the claim that they effect someone does not argue that he was innocent after all if it did then NO One would be guilty of murder with a gun.

So a scared nutcase probably yes.

If he missed the first shot, this can cause panic, and then the shooter would be shooting wildly, not accurately.
Unless he had a spotter to tell him how to adjust his fire.
I've been in live life or death situations, and hitting the target isn't always easy when you're scared or unsure of your weapon. For a hired killer, the setup was perfect. As matter of fact, it was too perfect not to be a conspiracy.


I think the only way you can say for sure you have an accurate simulation is take some scared inexperienced Jarhead up there thinking he was committing murder, and simulate the same exact conditions, heat, humidity, time of day, etc, and then you'd get some sort of idea what he had to deal with.

Quite wrong actually.

Oswald clearly intended to kill the president. Nerves may have affected the first shot but his nervousness would have decreased or vanished after the first shot and he would have settled in. This is because once the first shot is fired he is committed and there is no turning back.

There was no perfect set up for a hired killer in fact there seldom is such a thing which is really an invention of hollywood much like the triangulation of fire nonsense.

This was not a life or death situation for Oswald as he was not fighting for his life he was attempting to commit cold blooded murder.n It was not a kill or be killed situation. The nerves if he had such a problem would have come from knowing that he was essentially ending his own life after taking the shot. Once the first shot is fired though there is no turning back.


As I said people murder other people every day. Stating they cannot do so because they are scared is not a valid argument.