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"Zelensky said Ukraine would not bomb civilians because "we are not terrorists." But he suggested the centers of Russian power, like the Kremlin, were very much on the table.

  • "They have to know where the bomb shelters are," Zelensky said of Kremlin officials. "They need it. If they will not stop the war, they will need it in any case."
  • "They have to know that we in Ukraine, each day, we will answer. If they attack us, we will answer them.""

The Ukrainian President also dumped a fat pile on the Nato saying Nato membership does´t automatically mean security anymore.
He is asking Trump for a weapon system that he did not elaborate on.

Russia already replied unofficially: Medvedev called Zelensky a freak who needs to know that Russia has weapons no shelter can protect him from.



So who started bombing civilians in Donbass for years starting in 2014?
 
I keep seeing YouTube videos of Ukrainian military successes. I hope they are accurate.
 
And this is a justification for exactly what?
One of the justifications for Russia to intervene in Ukraine, but not the only one was the Ukrainian Regime was attacking their own citizens in Donbass and murdering them, i remember the US used that excuse for the invasion of the small Island of Grenada when Reagan said US Citizens were under threat so he invaded the Island like it was Iwo Jima, in Donbass it was actually happening, besides civilians all he killed were some Cuban construction workers building an airport.
 
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I keep seeing YouTube videos of Ukrainian military successes. I hope they are accurate.
Of course you do that's how war propaganda works, Hitler said his army were driving the Soviets back even as they were fighting in Berlin a few hundred yards from his Bunker.
 
I keep seeing YouTube videos of Ukrainian military successes. I hope they are accurate.
Yeah because you want to prolong this proxy war for the benefit of the war contractors, yet you benefit nothing from it. Weird!

Do you watch a lot of cable tv news?
 
One of the justifications for Russia to intervene in Ukraine, but not the only one was the Ukrainian Regime was attacking their own citizens in Donbass and murdering them, i remember the US used that excuse for the invasion of the small Island of Grenada when Reagan said US Citizens were under threat so he invaded the Island like it was Iwo Jima, in Donbass it was actually happening, besides civilians all he killed were some Cuban construction workers building an airport.
The US invaded Grenada rescued the students and evacuated. No Grenadians who didn't attack US Forces were injured or killed. I haven't noticed any Russians evacuating from Donbass.
 
The US invaded Grenada rescued the students and evacuated. No Grenadians who didn't attack US Forces were injured or killed. I haven't noticed any Russians evacuating from Donbass.
Is that right? no students were under threat that loony Reagan just used it as an excuse, and Russia has evacuated thousands of kids and elderly from Donbass to safety you clowns said they were kidnapped :abgg2q.jpg: and why shouldn't the small militia on Grenada shoot at foreign thugs invading them?
 
One of the justifications for Russia to intervene in Ukraine, but not the only one was the Ukrainian Regime was attacking their own citizens in Donbass and murdering them, i remember the US used that excuse for the invasion of the small Island of Grenada when Reagan said US Citizens were under threat so he invaded the Island like it was Iwo Jima, in Donbass it was actually happening, besides civilians all he killed were some Cuban construction workers building an airport.
I had in mind the constant terrifying of the Ukrainian population. Your argument allows anybody to intervene in this war now, too.
 
I had in mind the constant terrifying of the Ukrainian population. Your argument allows anybody to intervene in this war now, too.
The US made those rules but you expect other Countries to play nice, did you have any concerns about thousands of civilians killed by Ukraine shelling of Donetsk from 2014? this was back then when Donetsk was shelled every day, these are some Ukrainians taken prisoner by the Donbass Militia at the time, they were Ukrainian Citizens who refused to go along with the Coup and had to take up arms when they were attacked, these Ukrainian army personell are lucky they were not lynched.
 
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The US made those rules but you expect other Countries to play nice, did you have any concerns about thousands of civilians killed by Ukraine shelling of Donetsk from 2014? this was back then when Donetsk was shelled every day, these are some Ukrainians taken prisoner by the Donbass Militia at the time, they were Ukrainian Citizens who refused to go along with the Coup and had to take up arms when they were attacked, these Ukrainian army personell are lucky they were not lynched.

I am just saying that this is the same. Russia can disarm the West at the front lines, too. It does not need to use the civilian population.
 
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I am just saying that this is the same. Russia can disarm the West at the front lines, too. It does not need to use the civilian population.
Civilians in Ukraine have been killed, but they are not the target i posted several times about some targets in Kiev that were in Civilian areas, like the one in the link that the Russians have hit they also hit some places like Hotels where the Ukrainian army mercenaries and NATO people gathered thnking they were safe by doing so, you could say they were using civilians as human shields, by the way that arms factory is almost next to an hospital, so the headline in the West will be Russia bombs a Hospital in Kiev, do you see how it works now?

 
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Civilians in Ukraine have been killed, but they are not the target i posted several times about some targets in Kiev that were in Civilian areas, like the one in the link that the Russians have hit they also hit some places like Hotels where the Ukrainian army mercenaries and NATO people gathered thnking they were safe by doing so, you could say they were using civilians as human shields, by the way that arms factory is almost next to an hospital, so the headline in the West will be Russia bombs a Hospital in Kiev, do you see how it works now?
I am not talking about attacking a factory. I am about drones circling over Kiev for hours each day, forcing the civilians to live in the subway.
 
I am not talking about attacking a factory. I am about drones circling over Kiev for hours each day, forcing the civilians to live in the subway.
My point is which i have proved is any Russian drones over Kiev are not targeting the civilians they are targeting military instalations and i don't know about every day over Kiev.
Location of one target the Artem arms factory in Kiev, see on the map where the factory is located in red, there are hospitals and hotels all over the area, also Ukraine will have air defence missiles all over there and some probably landed on Civilian buildings.
 
My point is which i have proved is any Russian drones over Kiev are not targeting the civilians they are targeting military instalations and i don't know about every day over Kiev.
Location of one target the Artem arms factory in Kiev, see on the map where the factory is located in red, there are hospitals and hotels all over the area, also Ukraine will have air defence missiles all over there and some probably landed on Civilian buildings.
He have seen enough damaged tenements.
 
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