War Crimes, List Of Charges Filed Against Hamas

[pbel]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I understand this quite well.

P F Tinmore, et al,

I think you've made a mistake.

Sure.
Civilian is not the definitive term in international law. The term is protected person as not all civilians are protected.

(COMMENT)

The term "protected persons" is a ICRC Geneva Convention term.

For the purposes of ICRC Customary International Humanitarian Law (IHL), the term "civilian" is defined in Rule 5. Civilians are persons who are not members of the armed forces. The civilian population comprises all persons who are civilians.

Exception
An exception to this rule is the levée en masse, whereby the inhabitants of a country which has not yet been occupied, on the approach of the enemy, spontaneously take up arms to resist the invading troops without having time to form themselves into an armed force. Such persons are considered combatants if they carry arms openly and respect the laws and customs of war (see commentary to Rule 106). This is a long-standing rule of customary international humanitarian law already recognized in the Lieber Code and the Brussels Declaration. It is codified in the Hague Regulations and the Third Geneva Convention. Although of limited current application, the levée en masse is still repeated in many military manuals, including very recent ones.
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Most Respectfully,
R

I think you've made a mistake.

As nationals of an occupying power, Israeli citizens are exempt from the protected persons classification.

(COMMENT)

I understand that the civilians of the Occupation Power are not "protected persons;" but they are still "civilians." And it is still unethical and unlawful for them to be targeted by the belligerent elements of those under Occupation.

The reasoning for the exemption is that the citizens of the Occupation Power are already covered by the protections they enjoy as citizens of the Occupation Power. Whereas, the citizens of the Occupied Territory are covered by the Geneva Convention protections.

There is some attempt by the Palestinians to suggest that Israelis, not "protected persons" are fair game for attack by some misguided notion on the part of the Resistance. To attack the civilians (noncombatants) is always wrong; by the Geneva Convention (Article 68) and Customary IHL.

Most Respectfully,
R

You are grasping at straws. Israeli citizens are a necessary and integral part of the occupation.

No, YOU are grasping at straws. Israeli citizens in Israel proper have nothing to do with the 'occupation'. Israel is sovereign territory not occupied territory.

Such uncommon stupidity deserves our applause because it shows how blind loyalty to the irrational state of Israel kills innocents.

 

[toastman]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I understand this quite well.

P F Tinmore, et al,

I think you've made a mistake.

(COMMENT)

The term "protected persons" is a ICRC Geneva Convention term.

For the purposes of ICRC Customary International Humanitarian Law (IHL), the term "civilian" is defined in Rule 5. Civilians are persons who are not members of the armed forces. The civilian population comprises all persons who are civilians.

Exception
An exception to this rule is the levée en masse, whereby the inhabitants of a country which has not yet been occupied, on the approach of the enemy, spontaneously take up arms to resist the invading troops without having time to form themselves into an armed force. Such persons are considered combatants if they carry arms openly and respect the laws and customs of war (see commentary to Rule 106). This is a long-standing rule of customary international humanitarian law already recognized in the Lieber Code and the Brussels Declaration. It is codified in the Hague Regulations and the Third Geneva Convention. Although of limited current application, the levée en masse is still repeated in many military manuals, including very recent ones.
​

Most Respectfully,
R

I think you've made a mistake.

As nationals of an occupying power, Israeli citizens are exempt from the protected persons classification.

(COMMENT)

I understand that the civilians of the Occupation Power are not "protected persons;" but they are still "civilians." And it is still unethical and unlawful for them to be targeted by the belligerent elements of those under Occupation.

The reasoning for the exemption is that the citizens of the Occupation Power are already covered by the protections they enjoy as citizens of the Occupation Power. Whereas, the citizens of the Occupied Territory are covered by the Geneva Convention protections.

There is some attempt by the Palestinians to suggest that Israelis, not "protected persons" are fair game for attack by some misguided notion on the part of the Resistance. To attack the civilians (noncombatants) is always wrong; by the Geneva Convention (Article 68) and Customary IHL.

Most Respectfully,
R

You are grasping at straws. Israeli citizens are a necessary and integral part of the occupation.

No, YOU are grasping at straws. Israeli citizens in Israel proper have nothing to do with the 'occupation'. Israel is sovereign territory not occupied territory.

Such uncommon stupidity deserves our applause because it shows how blind loyalty to the irrational state of Israel kills innocents.

P F Tinmore, et al,

I understand this quite well.

P F Tinmore, et al,

I think you've made a mistake.

(COMMENT)

The term "protected persons" is a ICRC Geneva Convention term.

For the purposes of ICRC Customary International Humanitarian Law (IHL), the term "civilian" is defined in Rule 5. Civilians are persons who are not members of the armed forces. The civilian population comprises all persons who are civilians.

Exception
An exception to this rule is the levée en masse, whereby the inhabitants of a country which has not yet been occupied, on the approach of the enemy, spontaneously take up arms to resist the invading troops without having time to form themselves into an armed force. Such persons are considered combatants if they carry arms openly and respect the laws and customs of war (see commentary to Rule 106). This is a long-standing rule of customary international humanitarian law already recognized in the Lieber Code and the Brussels Declaration. It is codified in the Hague Regulations and the Third Geneva Convention. Although of limited current application, the levée en masse is still repeated in many military manuals, including very recent ones.
​

Most Respectfully,
R

I think you've made a mistake.

As nationals of an occupying power, Israeli citizens are exempt from the protected persons classification.

(COMMENT)

I understand that the civilians of the Occupation Power are not "protected persons;" but they are still "civilians." And it is still unethical and unlawful for them to be targeted by the belligerent elements of those under Occupation.

The reasoning for the exemption is that the citizens of the Occupation Power are already covered by the protections they enjoy as citizens of the Occupation Power. Whereas, the citizens of the Occupied Territory are covered by the Geneva Convention protections.

There is some attempt by the Palestinians to suggest that Israelis, not "protected persons" are fair game for attack by some misguided notion on the part of the Resistance. To attack the civilians (noncombatants) is always wrong; by the Geneva Convention (Article 68) and Customary IHL.

Most Respectfully,
R

You are grasping at straws. Israeli citizens are a necessary and integral part of the occupation.

No, YOU are grasping at straws. Israeli citizens in Israel proper have nothing to do with the 'occupation'. Israel is sovereign territory not occupied territory.

Such uncommon stupidity deserves our applause because it shows how blind loyalty to the irrational state of Israel kills innocents.

What does this drivel have to do with my post?
Stop whining already stupid Pbel

 

[teddyearp]

When pbel or any other gets proven wrong, that's all they know how to do is whine. .. .

 

[pbel]

When pbel or any other gets proven wrong, that's all they know how to do is whine. .. .

Well, offer your proof.

 

[teddyearp]

It's in the OP.

 

[Kondor3]

When pbel or any other gets proven wrong, that's all they know how to do is whine. .. .

And piss and moan and insult and indulge in name-calling and groundless attempts at discrediting the opposition.

They have far less skill at such things, however, than they delude themselves into believing.