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[westwall]

He says he didn’t know how it got there. How are you going to prove he removed it and not some staffer or aide or something? You don’t even know when it was removed and from where.

Who cares. The statute stipulates that possession is a felony


Comey invented intent to shield the shrilary.

 

[HaShev]

Presidential libraries are a part of the National Archives.

Not a closet in a hotel.

The National Archives didn’t load up classified documents and send them to Mar a Lago and no one has suggested otherwise. Trump is, however, known as a prolific pack rat.

They can be held and have been held in offices, your concern should be Obamas archives, I dare you to notice what's in those that he hid in archive to avoid prosecution.

 

[toobfreak]

You can't wait? For what, your head to explode if your boy is indicted? The case is in front of a grand jury, you moron. So just what is this "exculpatory evidence" & who is Bragg supposed to be witholding this evidence from considering the fact that your orange god hasen't even been indicted yet, dope? Trump is not President, he's a private citizen. Try to remember that next time before you rant as you're soiling yourself over that over ignorant douchebag Trump.

Wow, Trump really has you assholes by the short-hairs.

 

[Marener]

They investigate possible crimes all the time. What do you think the Jan 6th committee was?

The Jan 6th committee was tasked with figuring out what happened last election, which you know is a federal issue.

 

[Marener]

No, you don't.

Mere possession is a felony.

Still waiting for you to post the law that says so.

Given you’re so well informed and all.

 

[Marener]

They can be held and have been held in offices, your concern should be Obamas archives, I dare you to notice what's in those that he hid in archive to avoid prosecution.

Obama doesn’t have archives. He turned everything over to the National Archives.

He doesn’t keep classified documents in a closet at his house.

 

[westwall]

Still waiting for you to post the law that says so.

Given you’re so well informed and all.

18 US Code, Section 1924 Unauthorized Removal and Retention of Classified Information is punishable by up to five years in prison.

DURRRRRR

 

[HaShev]

Obama doesn’t have archives. He turned everything over to the National Archives.

He doesn’t keep classified documents in a closet at his house.

See you have no knowledge of these things, then when you speak, you do so through prejudice. Do an online search, Obama purposely put his whitehouse logs in archive to prevent you from seeing his visitors which included murderers, terroristic activists, and the one he called a "Russian spy" which he used to spy on his political rivals and forced Jeff Sessions to recuse himself, so they could operate treason unfettered.

 

[Marener]

18 US Code, Section 1924 Unauthorized Removal and Retention of Classified Information is punishable by up to five years in prison.

DURRRRRR

A good attempt, but this proves you’re wrong. You’ve claimed that intent isn’t part of the law, but it clearly says they have to be knowingly removed.

Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both.

So you’re wrong. Merely possessing them is not illegal.

 

[schmidlap]

They have investigated several police departments across the country.

Uncovering corruption and incompetence in governmental agencies, including law enforcement, is essential.

That is quite a different matter from your fake claim that "... democrats are all for the federal government investigating police departments all across the country."

Investigations are a vital part of our system of checks and balances, and they play an important role in ensuring accountability and justice.

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Interviews with former Justice Department officials, lawyers in charge of monitoring the progress of the local police departments, and current and former law enforcement officials suggest that while federal oversight cannot solve every issue in local policing, it can spur significant changes that would not have been possible without it.​

“I never once in my time there saw DOJ launch one of these investigations unless they had determined there was a long history [of abuses] and the agency has either been unable or unwilling to fix those problems,” said Christy Lopez, a former federal attorney who led the Department of Justice team that investigated the Ferguson Police Department after an officer shot and killed Michael Brown in 2014.​

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She also led federal investigations of local police in Chicago, Los Angeles and New Orleans, as well as in Newark, New Jersey, and Missoula, Montana.​

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“The government has a responsibility to protect people,” continued Lopez, who now co-leads Georgetown Law’s Program on Innovative Policing. “When you have state actors routinely violating people’s rights, of course you need a system for someone else to step in and protect those rights, vindicate those rights.”​

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[https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2021/05/03/the-feds-are-investigating-local-police-departments-again-heres-what-to-expect]​

 

[westwall]

A good attempt, but this proves you’re wrong. You’ve claimed that intent isn’t part of the law, but it clearly says they have to be knowingly removed.

Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both.

So you’re wrong. Merely possessing them is not illegal.

Wrong again. That is only a small part of the code.

Read it all.

 

[Marener]

Wrong again. That is only a small part of the code.

Read it all.

I read everything in the code you provided. There’s nothing else in 18 USC 1924.

Did you intend to cite some other section?

 

[Independentthinker]

The Jan 6th committee was tasked with figuring out what happened last election, which you know is a federal issue.

LOL. The Jan 6th committee was all about getting Trump, from day one.

 

[Independentthinker]

Uncovering corruption and incompetence in governmental agencies, including law enforcement, is essential.

That is quite a different matter from your fake claim that "... democrats are all for the federal government investigating police departments all across the country."

Investigations are a vital part of our system of checks and balances, and they play an important role in ensuring accountability and justice.

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Interviews with former Justice Department officials, lawyers in charge of monitoring the progress of the local police departments, and current and former law enforcement officials suggest that while federal oversight cannot solve every issue in local policing, it can spur significant changes that would not have been possible without it.​

“I never once in my time there saw DOJ launch one of these investigations unless they had determined there was a long history [of abuses] and the agency has either been unable or unwilling to fix those problems,” said Christy Lopez, a former federal attorney who led the Department of Justice team that investigated the Ferguson Police Department after an officer shot and killed Michael Brown in 2014.​

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She also led federal investigations of local police in Chicago, Los Angeles and New Orleans, as well as in Newark, New Jersey, and Missoula, Montana.​

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“The government has a responsibility to protect people,” continued Lopez, who now co-leads Georgetown Law’s Program on Innovative Policing. “When you have state actors routinely violating people’s rights, of course you need a system for someone else to step in and protect those rights, vindicate those rights.”​

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[https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2021/05/03/the-feds-are-investigating-local-police-departments-again-heres-what-to-expect]​

I totally agree. We must uncover the corruption and abuse of power of Bragg & Co. Glad to see you are finally on board with the federal government investigating that corruption and abuse of power.

 

[Marener]

LOL. The Jan 6th committee was all about getting Trump, from day one.

And the Benghazi committee was all about getting Clinton from day one.

You’re still missing the point that Jordan is trying to have oversight of Alvin Bragg without any constitutional basis.

 

[schmidlap]

I totally agree. We must uncover the corruption and abuse of power of Bragg & Co. Glad to see you are finally on board with the federal government investigating that corruption and abuse of power.

Your hyper-partisan derangement is apparent.

District Attorney Bragg is the target of Trump bum kissers, but no evidence of Bragg's being corrupt has ever been presented. The Loser is hysterical over the investigation into his paying off a bimbo as a "campaign expense."

Trump, Escalating Attacks, Raises Specter of Violence​

Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg gets death threat with powder after Trump warns of probe-related violence
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The vendetta-driven Loser is very pissy at Bragg who nailed him previously:

Bragg has faced off with Trump a number of times. During his time with the New York Attorney General's Office, Bragg was involved with civil lawsuits against the Trump Foundation. A 2018 lawsuit accused the foundation of misusing funds for Trump's personal or political benefit. The foundation agreed to close under court supervision, and in 2019, a New York court ordered Trump to personally pay $2 million to settle the suit.​

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[Who is Alvin Bragg? What to know about the Manhattan D.A. weighing charges against Trump] ​

 

[Independentthinker]

Your hyper-partisan derangement is apparent.

District Attorney Bragg is the target of Trump bum kissers, but no evidence of Bragg's being corrupt has ever been presented. The Loser is hysterical over the investigation into his paying off a bimbo as a "campaign expense."

Trump, Escalating Attacks, Raises Specter of Violence​

Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg gets death threat with powder after Trump warns of probe-related violence
​

The vendetta-driven Loser is very pissy at Bragg who nailed him previously:

Bragg has faced off with Trump a number of times. During his time with the New York Attorney General's Office, Bragg was involved with civil lawsuits against the Trump Foundation. A 2018 lawsuit accused the foundation of misusing funds for Trump's personal or political benefit. The foundation agreed to close under court supervision, and in 2019, a New York court ordered Trump to personally pay $2 million to settle the suit.​

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[Who is Alvin Bragg? What to know about the Manhattan D.A. weighing charges against Trump] ​

LOL. Same thing for most all of the Trump investigations where you guys always claimed that that is what investigations are for. So, we just need to investigate Bragg & Co to see if they are corrupt or not. If the investigation determines they weren't corrupt, then no worries, right?

 

[schmidlap]

LOL. Same thing for most all of the Trump investigations where you guys always claimed that that is what investigations are for. So, we just need to investigate Bragg & Co to see if they are corrupt or not. If the investigation determines they weren't corrupt, then no worries, right?

You appear to be admitting that District Attorney Bragg, the target of Trump bum kisser death threats, has been accused of no crimes or improprieties.

Yes, that is correct.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

You appear to be admitting that District Attorney Bragg, the target of Trump bum kisser death threats, has been accused of no crimes or improprieties.

Yes, that is correct.

So you admit all the past claims against Trump were bullshit? Thats what you are saying here to his reply.

 

[Independentthinker]

You appear to be admitting that District Attorney Bragg, the target of Trump bum kisser death threats, has been accused of no crimes or improprieties.

Yes, that is correct.

Well, according to you lefties, if you are accused then you are accused. So, yes, Bragg has been accused of abusing his power for political purposes. Anyone accused should face an investigation. That's what you've done with Trump for six years now. All you have to do is accuse him and poof, you can have an investigation.