VP Wallace in 1944 on American Fascists

[Political Junky]

The Ghost of Vice President Wallace Warns: "It Can Happen Here"
<excerpt>
In early 1944, the New York Times asked Vice President Henry Wallace to, as Wallace noted, "write a piece answering the following questions: What is a fascist? How many fascists have we? How dangerous are they?"

Vice President Wallace's answer to those questions was published in The New York Times on April 9, 1944, at the height of the war against the Axis powers of Germany and Japan.

"The really dangerous American fascists," Wallace wrote, "are not those who are hooked up directly or indirectly with the Axis. The FBI has its finger on those. The dangerous American fascist is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power."

In this, Wallace was using the classic definition of the word "fascist" - the definition Mussolini had in mind when he claimed to have invented the word. (It was actually Italian philosopher Giovanni Gentile who wrote the entry in the Encyclopedia Italiana that said: "Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." Mussolini, however, affixed his name to the entry, and claimed credit for it.)

As the 1983 American Heritage Dictionary noted, fascism is: "A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism."
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Wallace seems to describe a Fox news, who poisons the channels of public information today.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Wow! Like he saw Obama in his crystal ball!

 

[Political Junky]

Quote: Originally Posted by CrusaderFrank
Wow! Like he saw Obama in his crystal ball!

I realize it would be difficult for you to respond to the original post, and you didn't
You DO know that Hitler would have hated Obama, along with all minorities, don't you?

 

[noose4]

A

s the 1983 American Heritage Dictionary noted, fascism is: "A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism."

Obama is of the extreme right?

 

[blu]

CF looking like a retard again.

if fox news fits the OPs quote then so does msnbc

 

[del]

The Ghost of Vice President Wallace Warns: "It Can Happen Here"
<excerpt>
In early 1944, the New York Times asked Vice President Henry Wallace to, as Wallace noted, "write a piece answering the following questions: What is a fascist? How many fascists have we? How dangerous are they?"

Vice President Wallace's answer to those questions was published in The New York Times on April 9, 1944, at the height of the war against the Axis powers of Germany and Japan.

"The really dangerous American fascists," Wallace wrote, "are not those who are hooked up directly or indirectly with the Axis. The FBI has its finger on those. The dangerous American fascist is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power."

In this, Wallace was using the classic definition of the word "fascist" - the definition Mussolini had in mind when he claimed to have invented the word. (It was actually Italian philosopher Giovanni Gentile who wrote the entry in the Encyclopedia Italiana that said: "Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." Mussolini, however, affixed his name to the entry, and claimed credit for it.)

As the 1983 American Heritage Dictionary noted, fascism is: "A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism."
>
Wallace seems to describe a Fox news, who poisons the channels of public information today.

one man's poison is another man's meat.

go figure.

 

[Xenophon]

You mean the VP of teh Imperial Potus, FDR?

The guy that ran for FOUR TERMS breaking the tradition of George Washington, and forcing the country to make it law that no man can keep dictating ..er 'governing?'

BTW, Benito, like Hitler, was a Socialist.

They only teamed up with business later when it suited them for power.

 

[Political Junky]

You mean the VP of teh Imperial Potus, FDR?

The guy that ran for FOUR TERMS breaking the tradition of George Washington, and forcing the country to make it law that no man can keep dictating ..er 'governing?'

BTW, Benito, like Hitler, was a Socialist.

They only teamed up with business later when it suited them for power.

Please demonstrate to us that Mussolini was a Socialist during WW2.
The OP shows Mussolini's definition of Fascism, of which he was a proponent.

 

[ihopehefails]

The Ghost of Vice President Wallace Warns: "It Can Happen Here"
<excerpt>
In early 1944, the New York Times asked Vice President Henry Wallace to, as Wallace noted, "write a piece answering the following questions: What is a fascist? How many fascists have we? How dangerous are they?"

Vice President Wallace's answer to those questions was published in The New York Times on April 9, 1944, at the height of the war against the Axis powers of Germany and Japan.

"The really dangerous American fascists," Wallace wrote, "are not those who are hooked up directly or indirectly with the Axis. The FBI has its finger on those. The dangerous American fascist is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power."

In this, Wallace was using the classic definition of the word "fascist" - the definition Mussolini had in mind when he claimed to have invented the word. (It was actually Italian philosopher Giovanni Gentile who wrote the entry in the Encyclopedia Italiana that said: "Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." Mussolini, however, affixed his name to the entry, and claimed credit for it.)

As the 1983 American Heritage Dictionary noted, fascism is: "A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism."
>
Wallace seems to describe a Fox news, who poisons the channels of public information today.

The only problem with that is that no one can explain why the fascist were all at one time socialist who wanted to go in a new direction with their marxism. Hitler wrote about a "new philosophy of life" well what the heck was the old philosphy of life?

Mussilini was a former member of the Italian socialist party until he saw that the socialist winds were changing so he nixed it in favor of the fascist model.

My Kamp mentions the word Burguoise at least every tenth page as the enemy of the Arian people.

 

[Xenophon]

You mean the VP of teh Imperial Potus, FDR?

The guy that ran for FOUR TERMS breaking the tradition of George Washington, and forcing the country to make it law that no man can keep dictating ..er 'governing?'

BTW, Benito, like Hitler, was a Socialist.

They only teamed up with business later when it suited them for power.

Please demonstrate to us that Mussolini was a Socialist during WW2.
The OP shows Mussolini's definition of Fascism, of which he was a proponent.

Please demonstrate to us that WWII lasted all during musolini's career.

BTW, don't waste our time, he took power is 1922, two decades before WWII.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Quote: Originally Posted by CrusaderFrank
Wow! Like he saw Obama in his crystal ball!

I realize it would be difficult for you to respond to the original post, and you didn't
You DO know that Hitler would have hated Obama, along with all minorities, don't you?

Librul are never taught that National Socialism means Socialism. It seems so obvious, but then again Libruls believe that cow farts are dangerous and exhaling CO2 is a deadly poison

 

[CrusaderFrank]

A

s the 1983 American Heritage Dictionary noted, fascism is: "A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism."

Obama is of the extreme right?

No and neither was Hitler, he was a Leftist like Mao, Stalin, FDR and Obama

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You mean the VP of teh Imperial Potus, FDR?

The guy that ran for FOUR TERMS breaking the tradition of George Washington, and forcing the country to make it law that no man can keep dictating ..er 'governing?'

BTW, Benito, like Hitler, was a Socialist.

They only teamed up with business later when it suited them for power.

Please demonstrate to us that Mussolini was a Socialist during WW2.
The OP shows Mussolini's definition of Fascism, of which he was a proponent.

Please demonstrate to us that WWII lasted all during musolini's career.

BTW, don't waste our time, he took power is 1922, two decades before WWII.

Can't rep you again, but yes, facts are so, so, so cruel to Libruls

 

[Murf76]

You do understand that not all "corporations" are for-profit businesses, right?

Forgive me quoting myself... but it saves time.

Quote:
Main Entry: cor·po·ra·tion
Pronunciation: \&#716;ko&#775;r-p&#601;-&#712;r&#257;-sh&#601;n\
Function: noun
Date: 15th century

1 a : a group of merchants or traders united in a trade guild b : the municipal authorities of a town or city
2 : a body formed and authorized by law to act as a single person although constituted by one or more persons and legally endowed with various rights and duties including the capacity of succession
3 : an association of employers and employees in a basic industry or of members of a profession organized as an organ of political representation in a corporative state
corporation - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
So, in a nutshell... a corporation is any group that functions as a single unit.

Hmmm....

Let's see if we can think up some other examples of "corporations", shall we?
How about... ACORN? ...the UAW? ...SEIU? Or, I dunno... GE? (the CEO of which is currently sitting on Obama's Economic Recovery Board.) How about AARP? AIG? General Motors? Chrysler?

Sounds like quite a few "corporations" to me and just a mere scratch at the surface too.

Sad thing is... that Washington is up to it's eyeballs in "corporatists". And what is "corporatism" but a partnership between business and government? It's been a matter of "you-scratch-my-back-and-I'll-scratch-yours" for some time now... and on both sides of the aisle too.

But here's where we part ways with our little Socialist buddies currently in power. ...Fascism. In economic terms, Fascism is government control of nominally private production. The result is pretty much the same as Socialism, but the facade is more pleasing. That is, just so long as no one applies the correct verbiage to it.

And who exactly has left the traditional Washington standards of everyday corruption behind and crossed boldly into the realm of the Fascist?, "partnering" government with corporations in a manner that leaves government in control?

Uh-huh.

This business of "corporatism" and thus Fascism being a creation of the Right.. is total malarkey. It's a collectivist ideology, grounded in Socialism. Mussolini was a Socialist. That is, until he became militant, and in his frustration got tossed out of the party.

Fascism is a supposed "Third Way", a term we've heard from Bill Clinton himself, if memory serves. But it's a FACADE. Absolute control of a thing IS de facto ownership of it. So, even though fascist policy allows for nominal private ownership, the control is with the government. Much like the brain which controls all parts of the body.

Fascism is associated with rabid Nationalism, to be sure. But Nationalism is just the sauce, not the meat and potatoes. Fascism is primarily a system of economic control, empowering government. The American Heritage definition you posted above falls short of the mark in its understanding.

It's the Left, which is Fascist. It's the Left, which seeks to expand the power of central government through the guise of "Community Organizing" and unprecedented intervention in Commerce via onerous regulation and control of banking. It's the Left which empowers central government and authoritarianism through collectivism... all in the name of "The Common Good". It's the Left which rejects of our founding premise of Individual Liberty and thus true freedom.

All collectivist ideologies, Socialism, Communism, Fascism... pretty much end up the same way... with control of the many exercised by the corrupt few who've managed to climb up over the backs of their brethren.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The Ghost of Vice President Wallace Warns: "It Can Happen Here"
<excerpt>
In early 1944, the New York Times asked Vice President Henry Wallace to, as Wallace noted, "write a piece answering the following questions: What is a fascist? How many fascists have we? How dangerous are they?"

Vice President Wallace's answer to those questions was published in The New York Times on April 9, 1944, at the height of the war against the Axis powers of Germany and Japan.

"The really dangerous American fascists," Wallace wrote, "are not those who are hooked up directly or indirectly with the Axis. The FBI has its finger on those. The dangerous American fascist is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power."

In this, Wallace was using the classic definition of the word "fascist" - the definition Mussolini had in mind when he claimed to have invented the word. (It was actually Italian philosopher Giovanni Gentile who wrote the entry in the Encyclopedia Italiana that said: "Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." Mussolini, however, affixed his name to the entry, and claimed credit for it.)

As the 1983 American Heritage Dictionary noted, fascism is: "A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism."
>
Wallace seems to describe a Fox news, who poisons the channels of public information today.

The only problem with that is that no one can explain why the fascist were all at one time socialist who wanted to go in a new direction with their marxism. Hitler wrote about a "new philosophy of life" well what the heck was the old philosphy of life?

Mussilini was a former member of the Italian socialist party until he saw that the socialist winds were changing so he nixed it in favor of the fascist model.

My Kamp mentions the word Burguoise at least every tenth page as the enemy of the Arian people.

"My Kamp"??? You truly are one of the more informed conservatives; thank you for sharing this useful post.
Oh, and as noted and promised, ever notice how the conservative element all seem to agree with each other and give each other thanks?

From this day forward - at least until I get bored - I will post the "Talking Point of the Day", so all who choose to be informed and not willfully ignorant can enjoy the humor that is the 'Conservative Chic'.

 

[bodecea]

Quote: Originally Posted by CrusaderFrank
Wow! Like he saw Obama in his crystal ball!

I realize it would be difficult for you to respond to the original post, and you didn't
You DO know that Hitler would have hated Obama, along with all minorities, don't you?

Librul are never taught that National Socialism means Socialism. It seems so obvious, but then again Libruls believe that cow farts are dangerous and exhaling CO2 is a deadly poison

And the Democratic Republic of Germany (East Germany) was Democratic.


BTW...everyone should get ahold of a book by Rex Stout called "Magnificent Dunderheads"...a collection of speechs and essays by pre-WWII REPUBLICANS complimenting how Hitler and Mussolini were running things in Europe.

 

[del]

Quote: Originally Posted by CrusaderFrank
Wow! Like he saw Obama in his crystal ball!

I realize it would be difficult for you to respond to the original post, and you didn't
You DO know that Hitler would have hated Obama, along with all minorities, don't you?

Librul are never taught that National Socialism means Socialism. It seems so obvious, but then again Libruls believe that cow farts are dangerous and exhaling CO2 is a deadly poison

And the Democratic Republic of Germany (East Germany) was Democratic.


BTW...everyone should get ahold of a book by Rex Stout called "Magnificent Dunderheads"...a collection of speechs and essays by pre-WWII REPUBLICANS complimenting how Hitler and Mussolini were running things in Europe.

i had no idea old joe kennedy was a republican.

 

[bodecea]

Librul are never taught that National Socialism means Socialism. It seems so obvious, but then again Libruls believe that cow farts are dangerous and exhaling CO2 is a deadly poison

And the Democratic Republic of Germany (East Germany) was Democratic.


BTW...everyone should get ahold of a book by Rex Stout called "Magnificent Dunderheads"...a collection of speechs and essays by pre-WWII REPUBLICANS complimenting how Hitler and Mussolini were running things in Europe.

i had no idea old joe kennedy was a republican.

I would imagine in some ways he should have been, if it weren't for that pesky Irish Catholic thingee.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Quote: Originally Posted by CrusaderFrank
Wow! Like he saw Obama in his crystal ball!

I realize it would be difficult for you to respond to the original post, and you didn't
You DO know that Hitler would have hated Obama, along with all minorities, don't you?

Librul are never taught that National Socialism means Socialism. It seems so obvious, but then again Libruls believe that cow farts are dangerous and exhaling CO2 is a deadly poison

And the Democratic Republic of Germany (East Germany) was Democratic.


BTW...everyone should get ahold of a book by Rex Stout called "Magnificent Dunderheads"...a collection of speechs and essays by pre-WWII REPUBLICANS complimenting how Hitler and Mussolini were running things in Europe.

And yet, Hitler's National Socialism is STILL Socialism. Just deal with it. You have Hitler, Mao and Stalin on your side of the aisle

 

[xsited1]

The Ghost of Vice President Wallace Warns: "It Can Happen Here"
<excerpt>
In early 1944, the New York Times asked Vice President Henry Wallace to, as Wallace noted, "write a piece answering the following questions: What is a fascist? How many fascists have we? How dangerous are they?"

Vice President Wallace's answer to those questions was published in The New York Times on April 9, 1944, at the height of the war against the Axis powers of Germany and Japan.

"The really dangerous American fascists," Wallace wrote, "are not those who are hooked up directly or indirectly with the Axis. The FBI has its finger on those. The dangerous American fascist is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence. His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power."

In this, Wallace was using the classic definition of the word "fascist" - the definition Mussolini had in mind when he claimed to have invented the word. (It was actually Italian philosopher Giovanni Gentile who wrote the entry in the Encyclopedia Italiana that said: "Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." Mussolini, however, affixed his name to the entry, and claimed credit for it.)

As the 1983 American Heritage Dictionary noted, fascism is: "A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism."
>
Wallace seems to describe a Fox news, who poisons the channels of public information today.

Oh, you almost got it right, but you missed it at the end!!!!!

Fox News represents a very tiny bit of the 'channel of public information'. The MSM represents the majority and they are clearly biased to the Left. Just look at the way the MSM is handling the Global Warming email leaks (a.k.a., Climate-Gate). So Fox is a very, very minor problem, yet you focus on them. Unfortunately, you accept liberal fascism and you don't even know it! How sad for you.