Voting rights advocates say Trump's executive order requiring proof of citizenship 'could block millions from voting'. Isn't that the point?

[Flopper]

I wonder who writers these booklets or operates the answer line?

If it is in Washington State, then I must assume some crazy, radical group.

The candidate supplies his or her bio, and their position on major issues. Resolutions and referendums contain the legislative bill or a brief summary with a link to the complete bill. The budget office prepares the cost impact. Statements of support and opposition come from legislators that support or oppose the bill.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Voting is essential for political representation, whereas driving is a convenience. Losing the right to drive is inconvenient, but losing the right to vote means having no say in governance and being subject to others' decisions.

Disenfranchising voters weakens democracy by excluding people from political decision-making, leading to policies that do not reflect the needs or interests of the population.

People that have no voice in how they are governed lose respect for those that govern, their policies, and their laws. In the end the results are more autocratic government with policies and laws that further weaken democracy and centralize power.

Self-defense is essential for preserving ones life and insuring the survival of the species, whereas driving is a convenience. Losing the right to drive is inconvenient, but losing the right to self-defense means you having to be subjected to the whims of whichever strongman is in charge. But, we still have to under go a background check, show an ID, get permission from the government in the form of a license.

 

[InstantOn]

When a non-citizen illegally votes they cancel out my legal vote and that is a violation of my right to vote.
The Democrats are against voting rights.

Show some data that non-citizens voting is a problem. It rarely happens 'cause of the trouble they would get into if caught. It isn't worth it.

Since my passport's too old to be easily renewed at a post office, I would have to jump through hoops to get a new one. It also costs $$ which would make it an illegal poll tax.

You MAGAts are a piece of work.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Show some data that non-citizens voting is a problem. It rarely happens 'cause of the trouble they would get into if caught. It isn't worth it.

Since my passport's too old to be easily renewed at a post office, I would have to jump through hoops to get a new one. It also costs $$ which would make it an illegal poll tax.

You MAGAts are a piece of work.

Then requiring people to produce an ID at the polls shouldn't be a problem, then. Right?

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Show some data that non-citizens voting is a problem. It rarely happens 'cause of the trouble they would get into if caught. It isn't worth it.

Since my passport's too old to be easily renewed at a post office, I would have to jump through hoops to get a new one. It also costs $$ which would make it an illegal poll tax.

You MAGAts are a piece of work.

Then why are the Democrats opposed to Voter ID laws if non-citizen our not voting in our elections?
How do they know if a person is not a citizen without showing an ID?
We know that Democrats/MSM will always lie about this.
Why are Democrats registering non-citizens to vote in our elections?

How non-citizens are getting voter registration forms across the US — and how Republicans are trying to stop it

Welfare offices and other agencies in 49 US states are providing voter registration forms to migrants without requiring proof of citizenship, leading Republicans and conservatives to call for swift…

nypost.com

Welfare offices and other agencies in at least 46 US states are providing voter registration forms to migrants without requiring proof of citizenship, leading Republicans and conservatives to call for swift federal action to stop the handouts.

Every state but North Dakota, New Hampshire, Wisconsin and Wyoming gives applicants for either welfare benefits, driver’s licenses, or in some cases, mail-in ballots federal voter registration forms without demanding proof of citizenship.

There is currently no requirement on federal voting forms to provide proof of US citizenship, though it is illegal to falsely claim one is a citizen or for a non-citizen to cast a ballot in a federal election.

But millions of migrants with humanitarian parole, refugee or asylum status are eligible for benefits that would bring them to the offices where voter registration takes place.

 

[westwall]

Voting is essential for political representation, whereas driving is a convenience. Losing the right to drive is inconvenient, but losing the right to vote means having no say in governance and being subject to others' decisions.

Disenfranchising voters weakens democracy by excluding people from political decision-making, leading to policies that do not reflect the needs or interests of the population.

People that have no voice in how they are governed lose respect for those that govern, their policies, and their laws. In the end the results are more autocratic government with policies and laws that further weaken democracy and centralize power.

So, do you think that only blacks are too stupid to register to vote, or do you think that all people of color are too stupid?

Just wondering.

 

[tahuyaman]

Voting rights advocates say Trump's executive order requiring proof of citizenship 'could block millions from voting'. Isn't that the point?

Democrats want ineligible people to vote.

 

[toobfreak]

Voting is essential for political representation,

INFORMED, intelligent voting is essential for political representation. Stupid people don't represent anything but noise.

 

[toobfreak]

The candidate supplies his or her bio, and their position on major issues.

Sure. You mean like Gavin's positions supporting closed borders, gun and religious rights, until after they get elected, then like Biden, come out with a whole different, tangential set of agendas.

Politicians put down in their bio whatever it is they think you want to hear just to get elected.

 

[Flopper]

Sure. You mean like Gavin's positions supporting closed borders, gun and religious rights, until after they get elected, then like Biden, come out with a whole different, tangential set of agendas.

Politicians put down in their bio whatever it is they think you want to hear just to get elected.

which is why voters need to investigate the candidates before marking their ballot.

The people should have the opportunity to vote but that does not mean the people should vote for people they never heard of and referendums they don't understand.

I follow a strategy in voting similar to my investment strategy.

I don't buy stocks, I know nothing about and I don't vote for candidates I know nothing about.

If I don't understand an investment, I don't invest in it and if don't understand a referendum, I don't vote for it.

For some strange reason, some voters feel they need to vote for every item listed on a ballot. Your civic responsibility is vote, not to vote everything in front of you.

 

[daveman]

Almost never. No illegal immigrant is stupid enough to lie about their citizenship and risk going to jail for 10 years so they can vote in an election in a foreign country and risk being picked up by ICE.

Today, no illegal alien is going anywhere near a registration office or a polling. These people are skipping work, hoarding groceries so they can stay off the streets and you think they would be going to a government office that do have to go to where they might be picked up.

Yes, that's the Party line.

 

[daveman]

Very few actual Americans vote for democrats.

The average Democrat voter doesn't know it voted. Their ballots get harvested and filled out by WEF operatives.

Illegal Aliens: Voting For The Democrats Americans Won't Vote For.

 

[Slade3200]

Yes the GoP wants to protect our democracy and suppress the votes of illegals that are stealing America’s votes

Dems hate that, they are a threat to our democracy

How exactly would an illegal alien vote? Please explain because I have yet to find one of you who will even try to back that BS up

 

[daveman]

Show some data that non-citizens voting is a problem. It rarely happens 'cause of the trouble they would get into if caught. It isn't worth it.

Since my passport's too old to be easily renewed at a post office, I would have to jump through hoops to get a new one. It also costs $$ which would make it an illegal poll tax.

You MAGAts are a piece of work.

There are other, cheaper forms of ID than a passport. You're whining about nothing.

How to Get Free Photo ID If You Can’t Afford It​

 

[Flopper]

Yes, that's the Party line.

That's not just a party line. The vast majority of people that enter this country illegally did not vote in the country they came from and they are not going to vote here and subject themselves to being arrested and deported. They have nothing to gain and a lot to lose.

 

[daveman]

That's not just a party line. The vast majority of people that enter this country illegally did not vote in the country they came from and they are not going to vote here and subject themselves to being arrested and deported. They have nothing to gain and a lot to lose.

Yes, that's the Party line. "It never happens, so don't worry about it!"

You are obedient to your masters.

 

[toobfreak]

which is why voters need to investigate the candidates before marking their ballot.

And are you to just take their word at it? If they want to vote, they should study the issues a little, and the gov needs to issue a simple, easy little test as a way of encouraging voters to bone up.

I mean, if they can't even bother to know the most basic things about a candidate, why do they even want to vote?

Their "duty?" Bull.

 

[Flopper]

Illegal Aliens: Voting For The Democrats Americans Won't Vote For.

According to the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank who maintained a database of illegal voting by state for over 40 year, illegal immigrant voting is extremely rare. For example in the state of Texas where there are a lot of undocumented immigrants, between 1982 and 2024 there have been exactly 4 illegal aliens convicted. In the state of Alabama since 1982 there were 2 conviction. In Florida there were 14. In North Carolina there were 38.

And in all states from 1982 to 2024, we had 99 undocumented immigrants convicted of violating election law out of a total of election law convictions of 1,574. That covers over 5000 elections over 42 years. So when you hear illegal immigrant voting in our elections is rare, it is actually very, very, rare.

The Heritage Foundation's Election Fraud Map

The Heritage Foundation's Election Fraud Map is an interactive tool providing a sampling of proven instances of election fraud across the U.S. From @HeritageDataviz

electionfraud.heritage.org

 

[westwall]

According to the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank who maintained a database of illegal voting by state for over 40 year, illegal immigrant voting is extremely rare. For example in the state of Texas where there are a lot of undocumented immigrants, between 1982 and 2024 there have been exactly 4 illegal aliens convicted. In the state of Alabama over since 1982 there 2 conviction. In Florida there were 14. In North Carolina there were 38.

And in all states from 1982 to 2024, we had 99 undocumented immigrants convicted of violating election law out of a total of election law convictions of 1,574. That covers over 5000 elections over 42 years. So you when youhear illegal immigrants voting in our elections is rare, it is actually very, very, rare.

The Heritage Foundation's Election Fraud Map

The Heritage Foundation's Election Fraud Map is an interactive tool providing a sampling of proven instances of election fraud across the U.S. From @HeritageDataviz

electionfraud.heritage.org

And their information is now woefully out of date. We now know that illegals have been voting for a long time by the tens of thousands in some states.

This no longer a conspiracy theory, it is now fact.

 

[toobfreak]

And in all states from 1982 to 2024, we had 99 undocumented immigrants convicted of violating election law So when you hear illegal immigrant voting in our elections is rare, it is actually very, very, rare.

FALLACY.

1. How do we even know that the HF figures are accurate?
2. You are conflating /convictions/ with occurrences, as if every illegal voter was both caught AND convicted.
3. Can anyone ever imagine a democrat catching and turning in an illegal voter, much less convicting them? They are the ones inviting them in, so any convictions at all can only come from the republicans.

We can't even keep up with prosecuting crimes committed by top government officials much less get a conviction on every one of them, so by your reasoning, Washington must be as pure as the driven snow.