Voting rights advocates say Trump's executive order requiring proof of citizenship 'could block millions from voting'. Isn't that the point?

[ThisIsMe]

22 Things That Require a Photo ID​

At a Glance: In the U.S., a photo ID is required for various activities, including buying alcohol, opening a bank account, applying for food stamps, welfare, Medicaid, and Social Security, renting or buying a house, buying or renting a car, flying on an airplane, getting married, purchasing a gun, adopting a pet, applying for a hunting license, renting a hotel room, getting a fishing license, buying a cell phone, picking up prescription medication, visiting a casino, holding a protest or rally, donating blood, purchasing mature-rated video games, purchasing tobacco, and applying for unemployment benefits. A photo ID helps prove identity and ensures compliance with legal requirements.

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Are you saying there are people in America who never do any of this?

I'm saying IF there are people out there, as the various articles suggest, then let's help them.

I used to think like you, but realized...hey wait a minute, what if there really are people who fall into this category. If there are then we need to make sure they can vote.

 

[daveman]

I'm saying IF there are people out there, as the various articles suggest, then let's help them.

I used to think like you, but realized...hey wait a minute, what if there really are people who fall into this category. If there are then we need to make sure they can vote.

I'm okay with that. But given all the things that already require ID, there can't be many folks who don't have one.

 

[Rawley]

I'm saying IF there are people out there, as the various articles suggest, then let's help them.

I used to think like you, but realized...hey wait a minute, what if there really are people who fall into this category. If there are then we need to make sure they can vote.

Every state that requires a Photo ID gives you a state issued one for free

 

[AZrailwhale]

No it isn't. The point is we want American citizens voting. Americans voting and Americans have proof of citizenship available is not the same thing. 21.3 million Americans, don’t have proof of citizenship readily available. There are myriad reasons for this — the documents might be in the home of another family member or in a safety deposit box. And at least 3.8 million don’t have these documents at all, often because they were lost, destroyed, stolen, or they never had them. And there are generations of migrant workers that were born in the US but have no birth certificate. Some were home births but they never got recorded.

So because less than one percent of Americans citizens are too lazy or incompetent to get proper ID, we should allow anyone who wanders into a polling place the vote? By the way, I doubt the number is anywhere near that high. Voters have literally YEARS to get proper ID, elections don’t happen on the spur of the moment. Any documents “stolen, lost or destroyed” are easily and cheaply replaced through official channels. Almost no one is born at home any more so that is a red herring as well.

 

[AZrailwhale]

The fact is a significant number of voters are not particularly excited about voting. Yeah, it's a civic duty and so long as they don't have to wait in a line too long or miss something really important, they'll do their civic duty and vote. But dig through the boxes in the antic looking for a birth certificate or spend half day trying figure out who to contact to get a copy of a birth certificate, ain't gonna happen. Require proof of citizenship to vote and turnout will drop.

Oh well. Do you really think someone too lazy to spend a few hours qualifying to vote is going to spend hours and/or days researching the issues and people on the ballot in order to cast an intelligent vote? I don’t want anyone voting who votes based on political ads or commercials.

 

[ReinyDays]

Anyone legitimately stupid enough or incapable of producing a government photo ID is too stupid to vote anyway.

"Ver ist your papers, mein Herr?" ... yeah, I saw that Bogart movie too ...

 

[westwall]

"Ver ist your papers, mein Herr?" ... yeah, I saw that Bogart movie too ...

Yet, his point stands.