Voting for who your neighbor wants VS voting for who you want

[Paul08]

Watching a lot of interviews with Iowans during the caucuses, one pattern remains clear: people voting for the candidate they think the other guy wants.

So let's put this into perspective. Take every Democratic voter. 60% of them want Bernie. 40% want Buttigieg. (hypothetical.) Now of those people who want Bernie, how many of them have said "well Im going to vote for Buttigieg because he's the candidate that I think others will want." Now instead of there being a 60-40 split, the number is closer to 50-50, allowing a path for "dont rock the boat, lets just go halfway" candidates like Pete, Amy, and Biden.

But if everyone just voted for the person they liked the most, Bernie would sweep the floor with his rivals. Face it, he is the one most likely to get medicare-for-all passed, the Green New Deal, ban assault rifles and push for stronger gun control. Its kind of like asking someone if they prefer softcore porn or hardcore. Who wants to see something that is just a half assed effort?

Well thats all I have to say about it. Bottom line: vote for the person you want, not the person you think other people want.

 

[Stratford57]

It's a tough choice. Thanks God I'm not a Democrat.

 

[Paul08]

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It's a tough choice. Thanks God I'm not a Democrat.

Better that he sneaks up the rear than compare the porn star he is cheating on his wife with to his daughter and then afterwards pay her $130k to keep her mouth shut about said affair. thats some other kind of immoral. like siphoning money from an orphanage to give money to the fracking industry

 

[Thinker101]

Better that he sneaks up the rear than compare the porn star he is cheating on his wife with to his daughter and then afterwards pay her $130k to keep her mouth shut about said affair. thats some other kind of immoral. like siphoning money from an orphanage to give money to the fracking industry[/QUOTE]

Sounds like Buttigieg has been sneaking up your rear....and you like it.

 

[HappyJoy]

Watching a lot of interviews with Iowans during the caucuses, one pattern remains clear: people voting for the candidate they think the other guy wants.

So let's put this into perspective. Take every Democratic voter. 60% of them want Bernie. 40% want Buttigieg. (hypothetical.) Now of those people who want Bernie, how many of them have said "well Im going to vote for Buttigieg because he's the candidate that I think others will want." Now instead of there being a 60-40 split, the number is closer to 50-50, allowing a path for "dont rock the boat, lets just go halfway" candidates like Pete, Amy, and Biden.

But if everyone just voted for the person they liked the most, Bernie would sweep the floor with his rivals. Face it, he is the one most likely to get medicare-for-all passed, the Green New Deal, ban assault rifles and push for stronger gun control. Its kind of like asking someone if they prefer softcore porn or hardcore. Who wants to see something that is just a half assed effort?

Well thats all I have to say about it. Bottom line: vote for the person you want, not the person you think other people want.

I think looking for the most electable candidate is valid. Especially considering the monstrosity we need to boot out.

 

[Paul08]

Watching a lot of interviews with Iowans during the caucuses, one pattern remains clear: people voting for the candidate they think the other guy wants.

So let's put this into perspective. Take every Democratic voter. 60% of them want Bernie. 40% want Buttigieg. (hypothetical.) Now of those people who want Bernie, how many of them have said "well Im going to vote for Buttigieg because he's the candidate that I think others will want." Now instead of there being a 60-40 split, the number is closer to 50-50, allowing a path for "dont rock the boat, lets just go halfway" candidates like Pete, Amy, and Biden.

But if everyone just voted for the person they liked the most, Bernie would sweep the floor with his rivals. Face it, he is the one most likely to get medicare-for-all passed, the Green New Deal, ban assault rifles and push for stronger gun control. Its kind of like asking someone if they prefer softcore porn or hardcore. Who wants to see something that is just a half assed effort?

Well thats all I have to say about it. Bottom line: vote for the person you want, not the person you think other people want.

I think looking for the most electable candidate is valid. Especially considering the monstrosity we need to boot out.

An orange criminal racist who can barely form a coherent sentence was elected. the bar for "electable" has hit the ground, so Id say anyone is electable at this point

 

[Paul08]

Better that he sneaks up the rear than compare the porn star he is cheating on his wife with to his daughter and then afterwards pay her $130k to keep her mouth shut about said affair. thats some other kind of immoral. like siphoning money from an orphanage to give money to the fracking industry

Sounds like Buttigieg has been sneaking up your rear....and you like it.[/QUOTE]
no but thanks for exposing us for the homophobe that you are

 

[Harry Dresden]

Watching a lot of interviews with Iowans during the caucuses, one pattern remains clear: people voting for the candidate they think the other guy wants.

So let's put this into perspective. Take every Democratic voter. 60% of them want Bernie. 40% want Buttigieg. (hypothetical.) Now of those people who want Bernie, how many of them have said "well Im going to vote for Buttigieg because he's the candidate that I think others will want." Now instead of there being a 60-40 split, the number is closer to 50-50, allowing a path for "dont rock the boat, lets just go halfway" candidates like Pete, Amy, and Biden.

But if everyone just voted for the person they liked the most, Bernie would sweep the floor with his rivals. Face it, he is the one most likely to get medicare-for-all passed, the Green New Deal, ban assault rifles and push for stronger gun control. Its kind of like asking someone if they prefer softcore porn or hardcore. Who wants to see something that is just a half assed effort?

Well thats all I have to say about it. Bottom line: vote for the person you want, not the person you think other people want.

I think looking for the most electable candidate is valid. Especially considering the monstrosity we need to boot out.

even if that electable candidate is another monstrosity waiting to happen?....

 

[HappyJoy]

Watching a lot of interviews with Iowans during the caucuses, one pattern remains clear: people voting for the candidate they think the other guy wants.

So let's put this into perspective. Take every Democratic voter. 60% of them want Bernie. 40% want Buttigieg. (hypothetical.) Now of those people who want Bernie, how many of them have said "well Im going to vote for Buttigieg because he's the candidate that I think others will want." Now instead of there being a 60-40 split, the number is closer to 50-50, allowing a path for "dont rock the boat, lets just go halfway" candidates like Pete, Amy, and Biden.

But if everyone just voted for the person they liked the most, Bernie would sweep the floor with his rivals. Face it, he is the one most likely to get medicare-for-all passed, the Green New Deal, ban assault rifles and push for stronger gun control. Its kind of like asking someone if they prefer softcore porn or hardcore. Who wants to see something that is just a half assed effort?

Well thats all I have to say about it. Bottom line: vote for the person you want, not the person you think other people want.

I think looking for the most electable candidate is valid. Especially considering the monstrosity we need to boot out.

An orange criminal racist who can barely form a coherent sentence was elected. the bar for "electable" has hit the ground, so Id say anyone is electable at this point

Was everyone on stage last night electable? Yeah, I think they are. To the same degree? No.

 

[HappyJoy]

Watching a lot of interviews with Iowans during the caucuses, one pattern remains clear: people voting for the candidate they think the other guy wants.

So let's put this into perspective. Take every Democratic voter. 60% of them want Bernie. 40% want Buttigieg. (hypothetical.) Now of those people who want Bernie, how many of them have said "well Im going to vote for Buttigieg because he's the candidate that I think others will want." Now instead of there being a 60-40 split, the number is closer to 50-50, allowing a path for "dont rock the boat, lets just go halfway" candidates like Pete, Amy, and Biden.

But if everyone just voted for the person they liked the most, Bernie would sweep the floor with his rivals. Face it, he is the one most likely to get medicare-for-all passed, the Green New Deal, ban assault rifles and push for stronger gun control. Its kind of like asking someone if they prefer softcore porn or hardcore. Who wants to see something that is just a half assed effort?

Well thats all I have to say about it. Bottom line: vote for the person you want, not the person you think other people want.

I think looking for the most electable candidate is valid. Especially considering the monstrosity we need to boot out.

even if that electable candidate is another monstrosity waiting to happen?....

My point is that voting for a candidate one feels is electable is a valid point. I didn't say anyone specifically.

 

[Paul08]

Watching a lot of interviews with Iowans during the caucuses, one pattern remains clear: people voting for the candidate they think the other guy wants.

So let's put this into perspective. Take every Democratic voter. 60% of them want Bernie. 40% want Buttigieg. (hypothetical.) Now of those people who want Bernie, how many of them have said "well Im going to vote for Buttigieg because he's the candidate that I think others will want." Now instead of there being a 60-40 split, the number is closer to 50-50, allowing a path for "dont rock the boat, lets just go halfway" candidates like Pete, Amy, and Biden.

But if everyone just voted for the person they liked the most, Bernie would sweep the floor with his rivals. Face it, he is the one most likely to get medicare-for-all passed, the Green New Deal, ban assault rifles and push for stronger gun control. Its kind of like asking someone if they prefer softcore porn or hardcore. Who wants to see something that is just a half assed effort?

Well thats all I have to say about it. Bottom line: vote for the person you want, not the person you think other people want.

I think looking for the most electable candidate is valid. Especially considering the monstrosity we need to boot out.

even if that electable candidate is another monstrosity waiting to happen?....

My point is that voting for a candidate one feels is electable is a valid point. I didn't say anyone specifically.

everyone running for office is electable

and speaking of which, people right now are saying that a guy who talked about kids bouncing on his lap and running their hands up and down his hairy legs is electable. let that sink in for a moment

 

[HappyJoy]

Watching a lot of interviews with Iowans during the caucuses, one pattern remains clear: people voting for the candidate they think the other guy wants.

So let's put this into perspective. Take every Democratic voter. 60% of them want Bernie. 40% want Buttigieg. (hypothetical.) Now of those people who want Bernie, how many of them have said "well Im going to vote for Buttigieg because he's the candidate that I think others will want." Now instead of there being a 60-40 split, the number is closer to 50-50, allowing a path for "dont rock the boat, lets just go halfway" candidates like Pete, Amy, and Biden.

But if everyone just voted for the person they liked the most, Bernie would sweep the floor with his rivals. Face it, he is the one most likely to get medicare-for-all passed, the Green New Deal, ban assault rifles and push for stronger gun control. Its kind of like asking someone if they prefer softcore porn or hardcore. Who wants to see something that is just a half assed effort?

Well thats all I have to say about it. Bottom line: vote for the person you want, not the person you think other people want.

I think looking for the most electable candidate is valid. Especially considering the monstrosity we need to boot out.

even if that electable candidate is another monstrosity waiting to happen?....

My point is that voting for a candidate one feels is electable is a valid point. I didn't say anyone specifically.

everyone running for office is electable

and speaking of which, people right now are saying that a guy who talked about kids bouncing on his lap and running their hands up and down his hairy legs is electable. let that sink in for a moment

Are they all electable to the same degree? You really believe that this is in the bag for Democrats? I'll give you an example. Let's say Bloomberg wins the nomination, are you going to vote for him in the general or are you going to assume everyone else is going to do it for you?

 

[JoeMoma]

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It's a tough choice. Thanks God I'm not a Democrat.

Sneaking up the rear..... giggles....ha ha.

 

[Paul08]

Watching a lot of interviews with Iowans during the caucuses, one pattern remains clear: people voting for the candidate they think the other guy wants.

So let's put this into perspective. Take every Democratic voter. 60% of them want Bernie. 40% want Buttigieg. (hypothetical.) Now of those people who want Bernie, how many of them have said "well Im going to vote for Buttigieg because he's the candidate that I think others will want." Now instead of there being a 60-40 split, the number is closer to 50-50, allowing a path for "dont rock the boat, lets just go halfway" candidates like Pete, Amy, and Biden.

But if everyone just voted for the person they liked the most, Bernie would sweep the floor with his rivals. Face it, he is the one most likely to get medicare-for-all passed, the Green New Deal, ban assault rifles and push for stronger gun control. Its kind of like asking someone if they prefer softcore porn or hardcore. Who wants to see something that is just a half assed effort?

Well thats all I have to say about it. Bottom line: vote for the person you want, not the person you think other people want.

I think looking for the most electable candidate is valid. Especially considering the monstrosity we need to boot out.

even if that electable candidate is another monstrosity waiting to happen?....

My point is that voting for a candidate one feels is electable is a valid point. I didn't say anyone specifically.

everyone running for office is electable

and speaking of which, people right now are saying that a guy who talked about kids bouncing on his lap and running their hands up and down his hairy legs is electable. let that sink in for a moment

Are they all electable to the same degree? You really believe that this is in the bag for Democrats? I'll give you an example. Let's say Bloomberg wins the nomination, are you going to vote for him in the general or are you going to assume everyone else is going to do it for you?

Im voting for Bernie in the primary and Im either going Dem or Green in the general if Bernie doesnt get the nominee. we will see who gets the nominee

 

[Harry Dresden]

I think looking for the most electable candidate is valid. Especially considering the monstrosity we need to boot out.

even if that electable candidate is another monstrosity waiting to happen?....

My point is that voting for a candidate one feels is electable is a valid point. I didn't say anyone specifically.

everyone running for office is electable

and speaking of which, people right now are saying that a guy who talked about kids bouncing on his lap and running their hands up and down his hairy legs is electable. let that sink in for a moment

Are they all electable to the same degree? You really believe that this is in the bag for Democrats? I'll give you an example. Let's say Bloomberg wins the nomination, are you going to vote for him in the general or are you going to assume everyone else is going to do it for you?

Im voting for Bernie in the primary and Im either going Dem or Green in the general if Bernie doesnt get the nominee. we will see who gets the nominee

actually you will be voting for whoever he picks for VP....

 

[HappyJoy]

I think looking for the most electable candidate is valid. Especially considering the monstrosity we need to boot out.

even if that electable candidate is another monstrosity waiting to happen?....

My point is that voting for a candidate one feels is electable is a valid point. I didn't say anyone specifically.

everyone running for office is electable

and speaking of which, people right now are saying that a guy who talked about kids bouncing on his lap and running their hands up and down his hairy legs is electable. let that sink in for a moment

Are they all electable to the same degree? You really believe that this is in the bag for Democrats? I'll give you an example. Let's say Bloomberg wins the nomination, are you going to vote for him in the general or are you going to assume everyone else is going to do it for you?

Im voting for Bernie in the primary and Im either going Dem or Green in the general if Bernie doesnt get the nominee. we will see who gets the nominee

Then you proved my point. The candidates are not as electable to the same degree and if you vote green in the general you win nothing. You lose more supreme court justices, more deregulation to harm our environment, more locking up of children at the borders, more global corruption on a scale few have seen.

You're actually the posterchild for why a more than 2 party system can't succeed without at least setting up some ground work for which you've probably never thought about.

 

[HappyJoy]

even if that electable candidate is another monstrosity waiting to happen?....

My point is that voting for a candidate one feels is electable is a valid point. I didn't say anyone specifically.

everyone running for office is electable

and speaking of which, people right now are saying that a guy who talked about kids bouncing on his lap and running their hands up and down his hairy legs is electable. let that sink in for a moment

Are they all electable to the same degree? You really believe that this is in the bag for Democrats? I'll give you an example. Let's say Bloomberg wins the nomination, are you going to vote for him in the general or are you going to assume everyone else is going to do it for you?

Im voting for Bernie in the primary and Im either going Dem or Green in the general if Bernie doesnt get the nominee. we will see who gets the nominee

actually you will be voting for whoever he picks for VP....

Ok, that was kind of funny

 

[Paul08]

even if that electable candidate is another monstrosity waiting to happen?....

My point is that voting for a candidate one feels is electable is a valid point. I didn't say anyone specifically.

everyone running for office is electable

and speaking of which, people right now are saying that a guy who talked about kids bouncing on his lap and running their hands up and down his hairy legs is electable. let that sink in for a moment

Are they all electable to the same degree? You really believe that this is in the bag for Democrats? I'll give you an example. Let's say Bloomberg wins the nomination, are you going to vote for him in the general or are you going to assume everyone else is going to do it for you?

Im voting for Bernie in the primary and Im either going Dem or Green in the general if Bernie doesnt get the nominee. we will see who gets the nominee

Then you proved my point. The candidates are not as electable to the same degree and if you vote green in the general you win nothing. You lose more supreme court justices, more deregulation to harm our environment, more locking up of children at the borders, more global corruption on a scale few have seen.

You're actually the posterchild for why a more than 2 party system can't succeed without at least setting up some ground work for which you've probably never thought about.

I cant in good conscience vote for Biden if he is the nominee. I vote for who *I* like not who you like

 

[Care4all]

The first round is for picking exactly, the person you want, and most people pick the person they want in the first round...

Only those achieving 15% of the vote continue to the second round.

The second round, is where people who picked a candidate who did not qualify, pick out of the candidates that qualified.

This is the point I believe you are talking about in the op.... where they may strategize.... and pick a candidate that has less votes/delegates earned than the candidate with the most votes in the first round, buying time for the candidate they want and like and voted for in the first round, to pick up votes/delegates in future upcoming state elections...

And keeping the front runner from getting more delegates early on, so to keep the primary contest going longer, so that their own true and real candidate, has time to catch up.

 

[ReinyDays]

The Democrat's problem is their message is lost ... their platform looks like "anybody but The Donald" ... that won't work ... if the President sets the national discourse, then he'll win easy ...

"Medicaid for all" and "free college tuition" are not things the President can do ... it's outside the power of the Presidency ... only Congress can do these things ... why these Democrats are campaigning to do things they won't be allowed to do is just amazing ... "elect me and I'll rip up the Constitution even worse than The Donald" ...

Ok, boomer ...