CDZ Voter Fraud and Voter Suppression

[Shelzin]

You have to prove who you are when you register showing an ID when voting it's for ID fraud not voter fraud.

??? If you get more than one vote, it's both.

 

[Moonglow]

You have to prove who you are when you register showing an ID when voting it's for ID fraud not voter fraud.

??? If you get more than one vote, it's both.

Nobody gets more than one vote.

 

[Shelzin]

Nobody gets more than one vote.

If you vote for someone else, say... A dead person... They have gotten more than one vote.

 

[Moonglow]

Nobody gets more than one vote.

If you vote for someone else, say... A dead person... They have gotten more than one vote.

Yet the person voting for the dead person did not get the vote they took the vote.

 

[Rye Catcher]

Below are just some of the examples of things you need to prove your identity for:

1. Alcohol
2. Cigarettes
3. Opening a bank account
4. Apply for food stamps
5. Apply for welfare
6. Apply for Medicaid/Social Security
7. Apply for unemployment or a job
8. Rent/buy a house, apply for a mortgage
9. Drive/buy/rent a car
10. Get on an airplane
11. Get married
12. Purchase a gun
13. Adopt a pet
14. Rent a hotel room
15. Apply for a hunting license
16. Apply for a fishing license
17. Buy a cell phone
18. Visit a casino
19. Pick up a prescription
20. Hold a rally or protest
21. Blood donations
22. Buy an "M" rated video game
23. Purchase nail polish at CVS
24. Purchase certain cold medicines

But not to vote?

A student ID will be sufficient; most can be purchased seven days a week in a variety of stores and won't be turned away for wearing a BLM T shirt.

Can you offer a rational reason why Democrats oppose Voter ID?

Because no one has yet.

I'm a registered Democrat and I do not oppose voter ID's. What is a legal ID, and do all states require the same legal ID. ID's are not foolproof, they can be counterfeit.

I support LIVE SCAN, do you?

I'd be okay with LIVE SCAN...as long as the software is sufficiently secure. As we've seen with voting machines changing votes, security is paramount.

No reason why you can't vote without a wallet or purse.. Have the registrars load ID photos and signatures that get delivered to polling places by hand or secure communications link on election day.. Poll worker LOOKS at you, checks your signature -- asks for your current address.. It's that's damn simple.

Have a truck or two to issue new voter ID cards. Only has to be done every 10 years or so,...

My signature when I registered to vote in 1968 is far different than the one I used in my career, when I signed legal documents (arrest warrants, for example) and my photograph over the years has changed. My hair is no longer black, it is gray and at times over the years I've had a beard. I can't imagine how Live Scan could be counterfeited.

 

[Rye Catcher]

Nobody gets more than one vote.

If you vote for someone else, say... A dead person... They have gotten more than one vote.

Okay, assume a thousand people in PA voted twice. It still won't impact the election in 2020. Thus, let the Congress Vote and let President Biden sign a reform on voter registration, and to begin to require all new registrants to put their thumb print into a database via live scan in a secure computer, in the office of the County (Parish) Clerks Office.

As the registrant moves, the clerk when informed by the voter should be required to have the Clerk send the registrants "ID" to the new place of residence; if they are not informed the voters right to vote in the election shall be forfeited.

The Congress could provides funds to require each Clerk in every County/Parish in America to use the Social Security Death database and thu use this to secure a death certificate to remove the deceased from the voter role.

 

[sartre play]

No one likes to lose. Sad that we would let one mans personal need to win have this much weight. to many petty things being done now such as disrupting our national security. At this point it would seem no matter what small errors or fraud is found the outcome wont be changed.

 

[AZrailwhale]

There is a lot of noise as to Voter Fraud, and little discussion on Voter Suppression. The question is, why has AG Barr asked US Attorney's in the several states to investigate the former (fraud) and not the latter (suppression)?

In support of this question, I will present several links on Voter Suppression:

Voter suppression, then and now

From poll taxes and literacy tests to strict voter ID laws and consolidating polling places.

www.marketplace.org

Block the Vote: How Politicians are Trying to Block Voters from the Ballot Box | ACLU

Too many politicians are trying to manipulate the outcome of elections by making it harder to cast a ballot.

www.aclu.org

Opinion | The Voting Suppression Tipping Point (Published 2020)

For years, Republicans have made it harder and harder for Americans to vote. Is that strategy backfiring?

www.nytimes.com

7 Signs Voter Suppression Could Be Happening Near You

And how you can ensure your vote will be cast.

www.dosomething.org

Voter suppression is how Republicans have maintained their minority rule – consequently you’ll hear nothing from conservatives about that suppression which works to their partisan advantage.

However, it’s an article of religious faith among Republicans that when they lose an election, it’s due to the myth of ‘voter fraud,’ when in fact it’s because the voters have rejected the Republican candidate.

There is no such thing as voter suppression. Any legal citizen can vote if he or she wants to. There is and always has been voter fraud and the various political machines have been experts in it. The fact that people like you are against requiring a voter to have a photo ID just means that you condone fraud. Government issued IDs are easy to get for legal citizens and residents and are necessary for most important things in everyday life.

 

[Shelzin]

Okay, assume a thousand people in PA voted twice. It still won't impact the election in 2020. Thus, let the Congress Vote and let President Biden sign a reform on voter registration, and to begin to require all new registrants to put their thumb print into a database via live scan in a secure computer, in the office of the County (Parish) Clerks Office.

Eh... I don't think you want the congress vote. o.0

As the registrant moves, the clerk when informed by the voter should be required to have the Clerk send the registrants "ID" to the new place of residence; if they are not informed the voters right to vote in the election shall be forfeited.

The Congress could provides funds to require each Clerk in every County/Parish in America to use the Social Security Death database and thu use this to secure a death certificate to remove the deceased from the voter role.

It would help for a politician, either one, to actually SAY THIS. WE ARE GOING TO ADDRESS THIS.

 

[Rye Catcher]

There is a lot of noise as to Voter Fraud, and little discussion on Voter Suppression. The question is, why has AG Barr asked US Attorney's in the several states to investigate the former (fraud) and not the latter (suppression)?

In support of this question, I will present several links on Voter Suppression:

Voter suppression, then and now

From poll taxes and literacy tests to strict voter ID laws and consolidating polling places.

www.marketplace.org

Block the Vote: How Politicians are Trying to Block Voters from the Ballot Box | ACLU

Too many politicians are trying to manipulate the outcome of elections by making it harder to cast a ballot.

www.aclu.org

Opinion | The Voting Suppression Tipping Point (Published 2020)

For years, Republicans have made it harder and harder for Americans to vote. Is that strategy backfiring?

www.nytimes.com

7 Signs Voter Suppression Could Be Happening Near You

And how you can ensure your vote will be cast.

www.dosomething.org

Voter suppression is how Republicans have maintained their minority rule – consequently you’ll hear nothing from conservatives about that suppression which works to their partisan advantage.

However, it’s an article of religious faith among Republicans that when they lose an election, it’s due to the myth of ‘voter fraud,’ when in fact it’s because the voters have rejected the Republican candidate.

There is no such thing as voter suppression. Any legal citizen can vote if he or she wants to. There is and always has been voter fraud and the various political machines have been experts in it. The fact that people like you are against requiring a voter to have a photo ID just means that you condone fraud. Government issued IDs are easy to get for legal citizens and residents and are necessary for most important things in everyday life.

You are wrong.