Viktor Shokin: Biden outraged we seized Burisma assets

[Faun]

Lying, human scum... Shokin was not actively investigating Burisma.

Your entire argument crumbles when you base it upon falsehoods like that.

Solomon: These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden's Ukraine story

um...yea. they were.

LOLOL

Why would I believe an op/ed writer quoting a fired corrupt prosecutor who only recently began saying he was actively investigating it??

what corruption was he convicted of??

Why are you asking me? When did I ever say he was convicted?

so he wasnt corrupt,,,

He was accused of corruption. Are you saying one has to be convicted of corruption to be corrupt?

 

[Coyote]

So you think the President should just rubber stamp everything that comes to his desk? Isn't that kind of the job of a President; to oversee the agencies underneath him?

That is just stupid. The President of the United States can not possibly deal, personally, with every single thing that comes across his desk - millions of bits of information. He relies on an array of advisors, specialists, cabinet heads and agency heads to provide him with the best information possible on important topics that NEED his direct attention, otherwise it is taken care of by those heads. He does NOT send his personal lawyer in to try to force a foreign head of state to open an investigation on his political rival.

Come on!

So who's his political rival? Did the Democrats have their nomination vote already?

Who is judged in the polls as most likely to be able to beat Trump. Come on...don't be silly about this.

That's as silly as saying Trump's reelection is guaranteed. A lot can change in a week yet alone months. The call took place in July, and his lead was threatened several times.

If the other contenders thought Joe had it wrapped up, they would have dropped out by now.

Anyone running for president is a political rival. Especially so when they're leading in the polls. Even more so when Trumo spends millions attacking them in ads. And absofuckinglutely when he breaks the law to try and take them down.

Trying to make the argument that he is not a political rival is just silly.

 

[Faun]

That is just stupid. The President of the United States can not possibly deal, personally, with every single thing that comes across his desk - millions of bits of information. He relies on an array of advisors, specialists, cabinet heads and agency heads to provide him with the best information possible on important topics that NEED his direct attention, otherwise it is taken care of by those heads. He does NOT send his personal lawyer in to try to force a foreign head of state to open an investigation on his political rival.

Come on!

So who's his political rival? Did the Democrats have their nomination vote already?

Who is judged in the polls as most likely to be able to beat Trump. Come on...don't be silly about this.

That's as silly as saying Trump's reelection is guaranteed. A lot can change in a week yet alone months. The call took place in July, and his lead was threatened several times.

If the other contenders thought Joe had it wrapped up, they would have dropped out by now.

Anyone running for president is a political rival. Especially so when they're leading in the polls. Even more so when Trumo spends millions attacking them in ads. And absofuckinglutely when he breaks the law to try and take them down.

Trying to make the argument that he is not a political rival is just silly.

True, but not as silly as trying to argue that Trump attack ads against Biden weren't for political reasons.

 

[Coyote]

Your childish aside, it was already taken seriously and the aid was only authorized after our military reported that Ukraine had taken significant steps to address corruption. All this was, of course a available to the president. Were he truly concerned about corruption.

So you think the President should just rubber stamp everything that comes to his desk? Isn't that kind of the job of a President; to oversee the agencies underneath him?

That is just stupid. The President of the United States can not possibly deal, personally, with every single thing that comes across his desk - millions of bits of information. He relies on an array of advisors, specialists, cabinet heads and agency heads to provide him with the best information possible on important topics that NEED his direct attention, otherwise it is taken care of by those heads. He does NOT send his personal lawyer in to try to force a foreign head of state to open an investigation on his political rival.

Come on!

So who's his political rival? Did the Democrats have their nomination vote already?

Biden is running for President as is Trump so he is a political rival.

No, Biden is running against his fellow commies. It's who wins the nomination that will face Trump. Therefore, Biden is not his rival.

Bull. Biden is regarded as the strongest candidate and most likely to beat Trump. That makes him a rival. These word ga.es are just pathetic attempts excuse his behavior.

Hmmm out of ALL the corruption in Ukraine he just happens to ask them to announce an investigation on Biden.

 

[Polishprince]

Solomon: These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden's Ukraine story

um...yea. they were.

LOLOL

Why would I believe an op/ed writer quoting a fired corrupt prosecutor who only recently began saying he was actively investigating it??

what corruption was he convicted of??

Why are you asking me? When did I ever say he was convicted?

so he wasnt corrupt,,,

He was accused of corruption. Are you saying one has to be convicted of corruption to be corrupt?

Yes.

To be legally punished for corruption, you have to undergo due process. The fact that Sleepy Joe or some other liberal busybodies "said" he was corrupt is no reason to remove him from office

 

[progressive hunter]

Solomon: These once-secret memos cast doubt on Joe Biden's Ukraine story

um...yea. they were.

LOLOL

Why would I believe an op/ed writer quoting a fired corrupt prosecutor who only recently began saying he was actively investigating it??

what corruption was he convicted of??

Why are you asking me? When did I ever say he was convicted?

so he wasnt corrupt,,,

He was accused of corruption. Are you saying one has to be convicted of corruption to be corrupt?

well it does take it from opinion to fact

 

[GWV5903]

Good Luck.
Shokin is corrupt. So yeah, let's believe Shokin. Lol.

Yeah and Joe Biden never demanded they fire this SOB or he would leave in 6 hours with the $1BB...

You do understand this is on tape, there’s nothing that covers his ass on this...

I find it truly ironic that Oliver Stone’s documentary “Reveling Ukraine” throws Biden, Obama, Clinton, et al under the bus, but it doesn’t make the news...

Dumbfuck, WTF is wrong with you?? No one denied Biden threatened to hold up a billion dollars unless Poroshenko sacked his corrupt Prosecutor General.

You’ve been sucking their dicks to long, repeat after me and try to remember, what Biden did is “Quid Pro Quo”, it’s okay, recovery is a long road, I doubt you make it though...

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So you think the President should just rubber stamp everything that comes to his desk? Isn't that kind of the job of a President; to oversee the agencies underneath him?

That is just stupid. The President of the United States can not possibly deal, personally, with every single thing that comes across his desk - millions of bits of information. He relies on an array of advisors, specialists, cabinet heads and agency heads to provide him with the best information possible on important topics that NEED his direct attention, otherwise it is taken care of by those heads. He does NOT send his personal lawyer in to try to force a foreign head of state to open an investigation on his political rival.

Come on!

So who's his political rival? Did the Democrats have their nomination vote already?

Biden is running for President as is Trump so he is a political rival.

No, Biden is running against his fellow commies. It's who wins the nomination that will face Trump. Therefore, Biden is not his rival.

Bull. Biden is regarded as the strongest candidate and most likely to beat Trump. That makes him a rival. These word ga.es are just pathetic attempts excuse his behavior.

Hmmm out of ALL the corruption in Ukraine he just happens to ask them to announce an investigation on Biden.

It doesn't matter if Biden was (in July) the strongest anything. It was months away from the vote of the people. He was not Trump's rival, and may not be by the time of the primary election. Saying he would be and basing an impeachment on this fortune telling is what's one would call a phony excuse.

The first Thought Police impeachment in our history.

 

[Faun]

LOLOL

Why would I believe an op/ed writer quoting a fired corrupt prosecutor who only recently began saying he was actively investigating it??

what corruption was he convicted of??

Why are you asking me? When did I ever say he was convicted?

so he wasnt corrupt,,,

He was accused of corruption. Are you saying one has to be convicted of corruption to be corrupt?

Yes.

To be legally punished for corruption, you have to undergo due process. The fact that Sleepy Joe or some other liberal busybodies "said" he was corrupt is no reason to remove him from office

How about a Republican-led Senate Committee on Foreign Relations?

"I again call on Ukraine’s leaders to show courage and resolve in pursuing progress against corrupt individuals who wield influence in the country. I believe the United States can play a role as well as exposing and pursuing corrupt Ukrainian officials who use U.S. financial institutions to direct their ill-gotten gains. An important step was taken when General Prosecutor Shokin resigned earlier this year, but parliament must now accept his resignation." ~ Bob Corker-R​

 

[Faun]

LOLOL

Why would I believe an op/ed writer quoting a fired corrupt prosecutor who only recently began saying he was actively investigating it??

what corruption was he convicted of??

Why are you asking me? When did I ever say he was convicted?

so he wasnt corrupt,,,

He was accused of corruption. Are you saying one has to be convicted of corruption to be corrupt?

well it does take it from opinion to fact

At least you don't deny someone can be corrupt without being convicted. So who knows why you're bitching about this? And it's not my opinion that matters. It was the opinion of many international bodies that he was corrupt and needed to go, including many in Ukraine.

 

[Faun]

Good Luck.
Shokin is corrupt. So yeah, let's believe Shokin. Lol.

Yeah and Joe Biden never demanded they fire this SOB or he would leave in 6 hours with the $1BB...

You do understand this is on tape, there’s nothing that covers his ass on this...

I find it truly ironic that Oliver Stone’s documentary “Reveling Ukraine” throws Biden, Obama, Clinton, et al under the bus, but it doesn’t make the news...

Dumbfuck, WTF is wrong with you?? No one denied Biden threatened to hold up a billion dollars unless Poroshenko sacked his corrupt Prosecutor General.

You’ve been sucking their dicks to long, repeat after me and try to remember, what Biden did is “Quid Pro Quo”, it’s okay, recovery is a long road, I doubt you make it though...

LOL

It's bad enough you didn't even respond to what I posted but did you really need to inject your homoerotic fantasies into that bullshit?

 

[Faun]

That is just stupid. The President of the United States can not possibly deal, personally, with every single thing that comes across his desk - millions of bits of information. He relies on an array of advisors, specialists, cabinet heads and agency heads to provide him with the best information possible on important topics that NEED his direct attention, otherwise it is taken care of by those heads. He does NOT send his personal lawyer in to try to force a foreign head of state to open an investigation on his political rival.

Come on!

So who's his political rival? Did the Democrats have their nomination vote already?

Biden is running for President as is Trump so he is a political rival.

No, Biden is running against his fellow commies. It's who wins the nomination that will face Trump. Therefore, Biden is not his rival.

Bull. Biden is regarded as the strongest candidate and most likely to beat Trump. That makes him a rival. These word ga.es are just pathetic attempts excuse his behavior.

Hmmm out of ALL the corruption in Ukraine he just happens to ask them to announce an investigation on Biden.

It doesn't matter if Biden was (in July) the strongest anything. It was months away from the vote of the people. He was not Trump's rival, and may not be by the time of the primary election. Saying he would be and basing an impeachment on this fortune telling is what's one would call a phony excuse.

The first Thought Police impeachment in our history.

Of course he's Trump's rival. Your dementia can't change that. They're both running to be president of the U.S..

 

[Coyote]

That is just stupid. The President of the United States can not possibly deal, personally, with every single thing that comes across his desk - millions of bits of information. He relies on an array of advisors, specialists, cabinet heads and agency heads to provide him with the best information possible on important topics that NEED his direct attention, otherwise it is taken care of by those heads. He does NOT send his personal lawyer in to try to force a foreign head of state to open an investigation on his political rival.

Come on!

So who's his political rival? Did the Democrats have their nomination vote already?

Biden is running for President as is Trump so he is a political rival.

No, Biden is running against his fellow commies. It's who wins the nomination that will face Trump. Therefore, Biden is not his rival.

Bull. Biden is regarded as the strongest candidate and most likely to beat Trump. That makes him a rival. These word ga.es are just pathetic attempts excuse his behavior.

Hmmm out of ALL the corruption in Ukraine he just happens to ask them to announce an investigation on Biden.

It doesn't matter if Biden was (in July) the strongest anything. It was months away from the vote of the people. He was not Trump's rival, and may not be by the time of the primary election. Saying he would be and basing an impeachment on this fortune telling is what's one would call a phony excuse.

The first Thought Police impeachment in our history.

He does not have to be on the ticket yet to be a rival, political ads start up long before primaries. Again, it is a pathetic excuse for bad behavior.

 

[progressive hunter]

what corruption was he convicted of??

Why are you asking me? When did I ever say he was convicted?

so he wasnt corrupt,,,

He was accused of corruption. Are you saying one has to be convicted of corruption to be corrupt?

well it does take it from opinion to fact

At least you don't deny someone can be corrupt without being convicted. So who knows why you're bitching about this? And it's not my opinion that matters. It was the opinion of many international bodies that he was corrupt and needed to go, including many in Ukraine.

corruption is a matter of perspective,,,maybe they thought he was corrupt because he wouldnt toe their line,,,

 

[Coyote]

Why is it suddenly so import as not to create a narrative that Shokin was not corrupt? Why do you care?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So who's his political rival? Did the Democrats have their nomination vote already?

Biden is running for President as is Trump so he is a political rival.

No, Biden is running against his fellow commies. It's who wins the nomination that will face Trump. Therefore, Biden is not his rival.

Bull. Biden is regarded as the strongest candidate and most likely to beat Trump. That makes him a rival. These word ga.es are just pathetic attempts excuse his behavior.

Hmmm out of ALL the corruption in Ukraine he just happens to ask them to announce an investigation on Biden.

It doesn't matter if Biden was (in July) the strongest anything. It was months away from the vote of the people. He was not Trump's rival, and may not be by the time of the primary election. Saying he would be and basing an impeachment on this fortune telling is what's one would call a phony excuse.

The first Thought Police impeachment in our history.

He does not have to be on the ticket yet to be a rival, political ads start up long before primaries. Again, it is a pathetic excuse for bad behavior.

Then that means every single runner for the nomination is off limits for the Republicans to look into extremely suspicious matters. Assuming Biden is going to be the nominee is not solid grounds to impeach a President on. And what will you say if they impeach Trump, and Sanders or Warren gets the nomination?

It's real simple: Biden is Trump's rival or he is not. If he is, for Democrats to make the case, cancel all future debates, and nominate him without the vote of their constituents. After all, they know it's going to be Biden anyway, so the voters won't get upset.

 

[Faun]

Biden is running for President as is Trump so he is a political rival.

No, Biden is running against his fellow commies. It's who wins the nomination that will face Trump. Therefore, Biden is not his rival.

Bull. Biden is regarded as the strongest candidate and most likely to beat Trump. That makes him a rival. These word ga.es are just pathetic attempts excuse his behavior.

Hmmm out of ALL the corruption in Ukraine he just happens to ask them to announce an investigation on Biden.

It doesn't matter if Biden was (in July) the strongest anything. It was months away from the vote of the people. He was not Trump's rival, and may not be by the time of the primary election. Saying he would be and basing an impeachment on this fortune telling is what's one would call a phony excuse.

The first Thought Police impeachment in our history.

He does not have to be on the ticket yet to be a rival, political ads start up long before primaries. Again, it is a pathetic excuse for bad behavior.

Then that means every single runner for the nomination is off limits for the Republicans to look into extremely suspicious matters. Assuming Biden is going to be the nominee is not solid grounds to impeach a President on. And what will you say if they impeach Trump, and Sanders or Warren gets the nomination?

It's real simple: Biden is Trump's rival or he is not. If he is, for Democrats to make the case, cancel all future debates, and nominate him without the vote of their constituents. After all, they know it's going to be Biden anyway, so the voters won't get upset.

"Then that means every single runner for the nomination is off limits for the Republicans to look into extremely suspicious matters."

You have a mental disorder. There's simply no other reason you could post such nonsense after all the discussion on this matter to date.

No, dumbfuck, it means Trump can't solicit foreign aid to investigate any of the candidates for president. It doesn't mean they're off limits otherwise.

Savvy?

 

[progressive hunter]

No, Biden is running against his fellow commies. It's who wins the nomination that will face Trump. Therefore, Biden is not his rival.

Bull. Biden is regarded as the strongest candidate and most likely to beat Trump. That makes him a rival. These word ga.es are just pathetic attempts excuse his behavior.

Hmmm out of ALL the corruption in Ukraine he just happens to ask them to announce an investigation on Biden.

It doesn't matter if Biden was (in July) the strongest anything. It was months away from the vote of the people. He was not Trump's rival, and may not be by the time of the primary election. Saying he would be and basing an impeachment on this fortune telling is what's one would call a phony excuse.

The first Thought Police impeachment in our history.

He does not have to be on the ticket yet to be a rival, political ads start up long before primaries. Again, it is a pathetic excuse for bad behavior.

Then that means every single runner for the nomination is off limits for the Republicans to look into extremely suspicious matters. Assuming Biden is going to be the nominee is not solid grounds to impeach a President on. And what will you say if they impeach Trump, and Sanders or Warren gets the nomination?

It's real simple: Biden is Trump's rival or he is not. If he is, for Democrats to make the case, cancel all future debates, and nominate him without the vote of their constituents. After all, they know it's going to be Biden anyway, so the voters won't get upset.

"Then that means every single runner for the nomination is off limits for the Republicans to look into extremely suspicious matters."

You have a mental disorder. There's simply no other reason you could post such nonsense after all the discussion on this matter to date.

No, dumbfuck, it means Trump can't solicit foreign aid to investigate any of the candidates for president. It doesn't mean they're off limits otherwise.

Savvy?

POTUS has a duty to investigate corruption regardless of who they are,,,its not his fault joe was running for office,,

 

[Polishprince]

No, Biden is running against his fellow commies. It's who wins the nomination that will face Trump. Therefore, Biden is not his rival.

Bull. Biden is regarded as the strongest candidate and most likely to beat Trump. That makes him a rival. These word ga.es are just pathetic attempts excuse his behavior.

Hmmm out of ALL the corruption in Ukraine he just happens to ask them to announce an investigation on Biden.

It doesn't matter if Biden was (in July) the strongest anything. It was months away from the vote of the people. He was not Trump's rival, and may not be by the time of the primary election. Saying he would be and basing an impeachment on this fortune telling is what's one would call a phony excuse.

The first Thought Police impeachment in our history.

He does not have to be on the ticket yet to be a rival, political ads start up long before primaries. Again, it is a pathetic excuse for bad behavior.

Then that means every single runner for the nomination is off limits for the Republicans to look into extremely suspicious matters. Assuming Biden is going to be the nominee is not solid grounds to impeach a President on. And what will you say if they impeach Trump, and Sanders or Warren gets the nomination?

It's real simple: Biden is Trump's rival or he is not. If he is, for Democrats to make the case, cancel all future debates, and nominate him without the vote of their constituents. After all, they know it's going to be Biden anyway, so the voters won't get upset.

"Then that means every single runner for the nomination is off limits for the Republicans to look into extremely suspicious matters."

You have a mental disorder. There's simply no other reason you could post such nonsense after all the discussion on this matter to date.

No, dumbfuck, it means Trump can't solicit foreign aid to investigate any of the candidates for president. It doesn't mean they're off limits otherwise.

Savvy?

So , example given, if El Chapo were to declare his candidacy for the Presidency, the President couldn't ask the Mexican government to investigate them.

 

[Faun]

Bull. Biden is regarded as the strongest candidate and most likely to beat Trump. That makes him a rival. These word ga.es are just pathetic attempts excuse his behavior.

Hmmm out of ALL the corruption in Ukraine he just happens to ask them to announce an investigation on Biden.

It doesn't matter if Biden was (in July) the strongest anything. It was months away from the vote of the people. He was not Trump's rival, and may not be by the time of the primary election. Saying he would be and basing an impeachment on this fortune telling is what's one would call a phony excuse.

The first Thought Police impeachment in our history.

He does not have to be on the ticket yet to be a rival, political ads start up long before primaries. Again, it is a pathetic excuse for bad behavior.

Then that means every single runner for the nomination is off limits for the Republicans to look into extremely suspicious matters. Assuming Biden is going to be the nominee is not solid grounds to impeach a President on. And what will you say if they impeach Trump, and Sanders or Warren gets the nomination?

It's real simple: Biden is Trump's rival or he is not. If he is, for Democrats to make the case, cancel all future debates, and nominate him without the vote of their constituents. After all, they know it's going to be Biden anyway, so the voters won't get upset.

"Then that means every single runner for the nomination is off limits for the Republicans to look into extremely suspicious matters."

You have a mental disorder. There's simply no other reason you could post such nonsense after all the discussion on this matter to date.

No, dumbfuck, it means Trump can't solicit foreign aid to investigate any of the candidates for president. It doesn't mean they're off limits otherwise.

Savvy?

POTUS has a duty to investigate corruption regardless of who they are,,,its not his fault joe was running for office,,

Not if he has to break the law to do so. The president is not above, or below, the law.