Video shows Nashville man running away as he's fatally shot by police

[flacaltenn]

Do you understand percentages?

Percentages have nothing to do with it. The more encounters one has with the police the more opportunities for something bad to happen like being shot by them.

The more encounters with police tells us blacks break the law more frequently.

How does that logic work? Do more encounters with STDs tell you to have MORE unprotected sex?
Things go wrong when folks don't respect or obey a law officer. If they ARE racist and wrong, you're gonna end up booked instead of dead. If they ABUSE you in custody -- you're a millionaire.

So what is the logic of disobeying and seeking out conflict with the police?

 

[flacaltenn]

Do you understand percentages?

Percentages have nothing to do with it. The more encounters one has with the police the more opportunities for something bad to happen like being shot by them.

The more encounters with police tells us blacks break the law more frequently.

I can't be taking time to go to a DOZEN protests a week. Just because it's because trendy to resist arrest and not follow lawful orders. Even if the orders aren't lawful --- get to a safer place to work that out.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Do you understand percentages?

Percentages have nothing to do with it. The more encounters one has with the police the more opportunities for something bad to happen like being shot by them.

The more encounters with police tells us blacks break the law more frequently.

How does that logic work? Do more encounters with STDs tell you to have MORE unprotected sex?
Things go wrong when folks don't respect or obey a law officer. If they ARE racist and wrong, you're gonna end up booked instead of dead. If they ABUSE you in custody -- you're a millionaire.

So what is the logic of disobeying and seeking out conflict with the police?

Are you sure you responded to the right post?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Do you understand percentages?

Percentages have nothing to do with it. The more encounters one has with the police the more opportunities for something bad to happen like being shot by them.

The more encounters with police tells us blacks break the law more frequently.

I can't be taking time to go to a DOZEN protests a week. Just because it's because trendy to resist arrest and not follow lawful orders. Even if the orders aren't lawful --- get to a safer place to work that out.

Aaaah...sarcasm.

 

[flacaltenn]

Do you understand percentages?

Percentages have nothing to do with it. The more encounters one has with the police the more opportunities for something bad to happen like being shot by them.

The more encounters with police tells us blacks break the law more frequently.

How does that logic work? Do more encounters with STDs tell you to have MORE unprotected sex?
Things go wrong when folks don't respect or obey a law officer. If they ARE racist and wrong, you're gonna end up booked instead of dead. If they ABUSE you in custody -- you're a millionaire.

So what is the logic of disobeying and seeking out conflict with the police?

Are you sure you responded to the right post?

Yup.. Was you. LOL.. But misunderstood. First time I read it -- I thought you were saying the more encounters us blacks have with the police, the more we frequently break the law.

Second time I read it --- it does mean something else -- don't it? Wasted a GREAT reply.. I take it the "us blacks" didn't mean you were black...

 

[Asclepias]

They believe the cops are entitled to be judge and jury.

I wonder if some of the police are prejudging how "dangerous" a situation is based on criminal history.

I find it hard to believe that these cops who are repeatedly involved in these shootings simply do not understand that they are not allowed to shoot and kill citizens for disobedience or for fleeing from them.

I think its just fear. This ex police chief has this to say about white cops....

“Simply put, white cops are afraid of black men. We don’t talk about it, we pretend it doesn’t exist, we claim “color blindness,” we say white officers treat black men the same way they treat white men. But that’s a lie. In fact, the bigger, the darker the black man the greater the fear. The African-American community knows this. Hell, most whites know it. Yet, even though it’s a central, if not the defining ingredient in the makeup of police racism, white cops won’t admit it to themselves, or to others.”
― Norm Stamper, Breaking Rank: A Top Cop's Exposé of the Dark Side of American Policing

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

The more encounters with police tells us blacks break the law more frequently.

Your statement doesn't make sense. You can't measure the veracity of valid police encounters by looking solely at your end results especially since we know that specific U.S. police department have been found to be guilty of unlawful and/or unconstitutional profiling and targeting of people of color. Some of these police departments have been put under consent decree by the U.S. Department of Justice for unlawful use of force while others have been successfully sued by the people/groups they've unlawfully surveilled, targeted and killed.

The Department of Justice has opened more than 60 investigations into law enforcement departments since 1994, when the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act was passed in the aftermath of the Rodney King beating case.​

United States Department of Justice - Official Misconduct​

And then there is this:
White Man Carrying Loaded Gun Wasn't Threatening Enough For Police To Shoot Him 20 Times

A white man wearing body armor, carrying a loaded gun, and reportedly stolen SWAT equipment was peacefully arrested by Chicago police on Friday, causing many to question why he was not found as threatening as Stephon Clark.

"I guess a white man dressed in body armor carrying a fully loaded weapon doesn't make an officer 'fear for his life' as much as a black man carrying his cell phone. Noted."
​

8 White People Who Pointed Guns At Police Officers and Managed Not to Get Killed

1. Armed White Guy Has Standoff With Police, Then Gets His Gun Back
2. White Guy Points Gun at Police Officers and Children During Hour-Long Standoff
3. White Man Arrested Twice For Road Rage With a Gun
4. White Guy Arrested for Firing BB Gun at Officers
5. Two White Men Shoot Up Walmart With BB Gun and Live to Tell the Tale
6. White Guy Arrested After Pointing Gun at Pennsylvania Police Officers
7. White Woman Dressed In Body Armor Arrested After Shooting Into Cars and Pointing Gun at Police
8. White Man Arrested After Pointing Gun at Phoenix Firefighters During Hour-Long Standoff

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

I think its just fear. This ex police chief has this to say about white cops....

If they're afraid of the population they serve, they have no business being police officers.

Allowing these types of psychological and character deficiencies to surface in these officers at the expense of the lives of societies disenfranchised citizens is a extremely flawed policy, in my opinion. But this is nothing new in the sense that it has always been more important for these men (usually) to retain the status of being a police officer (or any other position of authority) than to protect society or their family members even when they are known to be have violent tendacies and have committed offenses that would net any other member of society a charge/conviction for domestic violence. A study done more than 2 decades ago determined that often the upper brass would actively decide not to take action against their officers who were known to have committed DV offenses because then the officers would be required to relinquish all weapons they had access to. And if they can't carry a weapon, they can't be police officers. The former police chief of the city of Tacoma, Washington David Brahm is a case in point.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

How does that logic work? Do more encounters with STDs tell you to have MORE unprotected sex?

Well if we put it into context of this conversation if you or HereWeGoAgain have infected someone previously with a STD should the police be allowed to shoot and kill you because basically you've done it before therefore you "could" do it again even absence any evidence of intentions to do so irrespective of the number of encounters?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

An example of how African Americans have more encounters with the police absent the commission of a criminal act (except on the part of the cop)
Arkansas Cop Fired for.....

 

[IM2]

BTW -- chances are EXCELLENT that the cop had his record before he even made the stop. So -- you gotta be thinking armed.

So?

If you KNOW the guy has prior gun arrests, you have to assume the reason he's running is that he decided to take the gun out of the car.

It MAY BE a crap decision to shoot. In fact to me, it LOOKS like it might be. But you can't see the guys hands clearly as the cop did. You don't want to be the 2nd person to shoot.

If it LOOKS bad, I'll go drive downtown and join the protests. I promise. I'm just not leaping to conclusions.

What's strange to me ( I live in the Nashville general area) --- this event was captured from UP HIGH on TWO different cameras. So the encounter must have been noisy and brought folks to windows. I saw BOTH angles on TV tonight and neither one looked like he was pulling a weapon.

The man had his back turned and was running. That was seen clearly. There is no excuse to be made for this. We have got to stop looking for excuses to allow police to do this.

 

[IM2]

Do you understand percentages?

Percentages have nothing to do with it. The more encounters one has with the police the more opportunities for something bad to happen like being shot by them.

The more encounters with police tells us blacks break the law more frequently.

No that's not what that tells you.

 

[IM2]

Do you understand percentages?

Percentages have nothing to do with it. The more encounters one has with the police the more opportunities for something bad to happen like being shot by them.

The more encounters with police tells us blacks break the law more frequently.

How does that logic work? Do more encounters with STDs tell you to have MORE unprotected sex?
Things go wrong when folks don't respect or obey a law officer. If they ARE racist and wrong, you're gonna end up booked instead of dead. If they ABUSE you in custody -- you're a millionaire.

So what is the logic of disobeying and seeking out conflict with the police?

The problem is the police seeking conflict. That's what's going on. And it's time we stopped ignoring that. I think some of us need learn that we have rights and we do not have to just obey everything the police tell us. If we act within our rights and get killed, that's murder. Th police use that threat of shooting us in order to bully us into giving up our constitutional rights.

Know Your Rights: What To Do If You're Stopped By Police, Immigration Agents or the FBI

• You have the right to remain silent. If you wish to exercise that right, say so out loud.

• You have the right to refuse to consent to a search of yourself, your car or your home.

• If you are not under arrest, you have the right to calmly leave.

• You have the right to a lawyer if you are arrested. Ask for one immediately.

• Regardless of your immigration or citizenship status, you have constitutional rights.

What To Do If You're Stopped By Police, Immigration Agents or the FBI

We do NOT live in a police state nor should we allow it to happen because of blind and ignorant worship of law enforcement.

 

[Defiant1]

Do you understand percentages?

Percentages have nothing to do with it. The more encounters one has with the police the more opportunities for something bad to happen like being shot by them.

The more encounters with police tells us blacks break the law more frequently.

How does that logic work? Do more encounters with STDs tell you to have MORE unprotected sex?
Things go wrong when folks don't respect or obey a law officer. If they ARE racist and wrong, you're gonna end up booked instead of dead. If they ABUSE you in custody -- you're a millionaire.

So what is the logic of disobeying and seeking out conflict with the police?

The problem is the police seeking conflict. That's what's going on. And it's time we stopped ignoring that. I think some of us need learn that we have rights and we do not have to just obey everything the police tell us. If we act within our rights and get killed, that's murder. Th police use that threat of shooting us in order to bully us into giving up our constitutional rights.

Know Your Rights: What To Do If You're Stopped By Police, Immigration Agents or the FBI

• You have the right to remain silent. If you wish to exercise that right, say so out loud.

• You have the right to refuse to consent to a search of yourself, your car or your home.

• If you are not under arrest, you have the right to calmly leave.

• You have the right to a lawyer if you are arrested. Ask for one immediately.

• Regardless of your immigration or citizenship status, you have constitutional rights.

What To Do If You're Stopped By Police, Immigration Agents or the FBI

We do NOT live in a police state nor should we allow it to happen because of blind and ignorant worship of law enforcement.

You don't have the right to run from the police.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

You don't have the right to run from the police.

Sure you do, you just should expect to be charged with evading

Tennesee Criminal Code 39-16-603 - Evading arrest
Misdemeanor Evading Arrest is a Class A Misdemeanor and may result in some or all of the following consequences:

1. A sentence of up to 11 months, 29 days in prison;
2. A probationary period;
3. A fine of up to $2,500;
4. Court costs.

[Source: Tennessee Code Annotated § 39-16-603]
​

The take away from this though is that no where does it state that the punishment for misdemeanor evading is summary execution by the police. The penalty for disobedience to the police or fleeing them is NOT death

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

The more encounters with police tells us blacks break the law more frequently.

Your statement doesn't make sense. You can't measure the veracity of valid police encounters by looking solely at your end results especially since we know that specific U.S. police department have been found to be guilty of unlawful and/or unconstitutional profiling and targeting of people of color. Some of these police departments have been put under consent decree by the U.S. Department of Justice for unlawful use of force while others have been successfully sued by the people/groups they've unlawfully surveilled, targeted and killed.

The Department of Justice has opened more than 60 investigations into law enforcement departments since 1994, when the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act was passed in the aftermath of the Rodney King beating case.​

United States Department of Justice - Official Misconduct​

And then there is this:
White Man Carrying Loaded Gun Wasn't Threatening Enough For Police To Shoot Him 20 Times

A white man wearing body armor, carrying a loaded gun, and reportedly stolen SWAT equipment was peacefully arrested by Chicago police on Friday, causing many to question why he was not found as threatening as Stephon Clark.

"I guess a white man dressed in body armor carrying a fully loaded weapon doesn't make an officer 'fear for his life' as much as a black man carrying his cell phone. Noted."
​

8 White People Who Pointed Guns At Police Officers and Managed Not to Get Killed

1. Armed White Guy Has Standoff With Police, Then Gets His Gun Back
2. White Guy Points Gun at Police Officers and Children During Hour-Long Standoff
3. White Man Arrested Twice For Road Rage With a Gun
4. White Guy Arrested for Firing BB Gun at Officers
5. Two White Men Shoot Up Walmart With BB Gun and Live to Tell the Tale
6. White Guy Arrested After Pointing Gun at Pennsylvania Police Officers
7. White Woman Dressed In Body Armor Arrested After Shooting Into Cars and Pointing Gun at Police
8. White Man Arrested After Pointing Gun at Phoenix Firefighters During Hour-Long Standoff

When 12% of the population commit 50% of the murders in this country cops have every reason to fear them.
Maybe if blacks would stop committing so many crimes they'd get the benefit of the doubt.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Do you understand percentages?

Percentages have nothing to do with it. The more encounters one has with the police the more opportunities for something bad to happen like being shot by them.

The more encounters with police tells us blacks break the law more frequently.

How does that logic work? Do more encounters with STDs tell you to have MORE unprotected sex?
Things go wrong when folks don't respect or obey a law officer. If they ARE racist and wrong, you're gonna end up booked instead of dead. If they ABUSE you in custody -- you're a millionaire.

So what is the logic of disobeying and seeking out conflict with the police?

The problem is the police seeking conflict. That's what's going on. And it's time we stopped ignoring that. I think some of us need learn that we have rights and we do not have to just obey everything the police tell us. If we act within our rights and get killed, that's murder. Th police use that threat of shooting us in order to bully us into giving up our constitutional rights.

Know Your Rights: What To Do If You're Stopped By Police, Immigration Agents or the FBI

• You have the right to remain silent. If you wish to exercise that right, say so out loud.

• You have the right to refuse to consent to a search of yourself, your car or your home.

• If you are not under arrest, you have the right to calmly leave.

• You have the right to a lawyer if you are arrested. Ask for one immediately.

• Regardless of your immigration or citizenship status, you have constitutional rights.

What To Do If You're Stopped By Police, Immigration Agents or the FBI

We do NOT live in a police state nor should we allow it to happen because of blind and ignorant worship of law enforcement.

No,the problem is you fools drive around with rap music blaring,no inspection sticker,broken tail light,smoking weed and carrying illegal firearms.
Or you're standing on a street corner openly selling weed and drugs.
You fools are your own worst enemy.

 

[Liberty777]

Your racism is apparent. Get right with god.

He sold drugs in a school zone. His momma should be ashamed.

So, that's not a crime punishable by death without a jury.

Seems like running from the cops is a crime punishable by death now.

He put himself in that situation[/QUOTE

No, he did not put himself in situation to be murdered.

Yes

He sold drugs in a school zone. His momma should be ashamed.

So, that's not a crime punishable by death without a jury.

Seems like running from the cops is a crime punishable by death now.

He put himself in that situation

No, he did not put himself in situation to be murdered.

Yeah he did. Being Black while being Black.

Being a thug.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Another one of those "where's dad" situations.
Dont run from the police and dont carry an illegal firearm.

and dont point it at the cops

 

[Liberty777]

White cops should refuse to patrol certain areas.