Video shows Ahmaud Arbery Was caught breaking and entering an unfinished property, then towards McMichael‘s house

[meaner gene]

Just because he was a thief does not mean he meant to steal. He might have been on vacation or might have just been looking for a drink of water.

If he was a thief, why did he spend most of the month, not stealing?

 

[TheGreenHornet]

Of course you can.

The point is you do not have to stop and talk to a man with a shotgun who is a stranger and is ordering you to stop and talk to him with a shotgun and he’s got another guy right close by with a 357 magnum as backup.

Nobody is claiming he had to stop. Yet if he had stopped and engaged in coversation he would be alive today.

Many cannot understand why he did not do that.

One good theory is that he feared he would be arrested. and since he was already in violation of parole probably figured he would definitely go to jail this time.

Yet he knew he could not escape...could not outrun that truck....so he got flustered and panic set in. Like a lot of cornered animals he decided to fight.

 

[meaner gene]

No you are looking at it ass backwards. it is true all this talk about what he did or did not do in the house is irrelevant.

When somebody says something is irrelevant, it means it's the key.

A thief who doesn't steal (as the construction site videos prove) given multiple opportunities both day and night.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

Just because he was a thief does not mean he meant to steal. He might have been on vacation or might have just been looking for a drink of water.

If he was a thief, why did he spend most of the month, not stealing?

No one knows what he did. Thieves steal and he was a documented theif. Most thieves committ a lot of crimes not just the one that sends them to jail....in fact many thieves can go for years without getting caught.

 

[meaner gene]

Yes we will see a video of McMichaels following Arbery, and they will call it a chase, or a lynching,, and it’s not ., it’s following a criminal until the police come

What felony did the criminal commit? You know you can't use deadly force (or threat of deadly force) to arrest somebody for a misdemeanor, such as trespass onto an unenclosed construction site.

 

[meaner gene]

If he was a thief, why did he spend most of the month, not stealing?

No one knows what he did. Thieves steal and he was a documented theif. Most thieves committ a lot of crimes not just the one that sends them to jail....in fact many thieves can go for years without getting caught.

So you have Arbery on video visiting the construction site multiple times, day and night, and not once did he take anything. So why are you calling him a thief in this context?

He had multiple opportunities to steal something from the construction site, yet the videos show he only made short visits. He didn't spend any time searching for something to steal, then or later.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

As pointed out many times....all that is relevant is that Travis McMichaels was forced to use lethal force in self defense.

With the aid of the video no jury will have a problem seeing that. All these morons on here who make all these outrageous claims are blinded by bias. Any objective person watching the complete video not the want the media edited will affirm that the suspect attacked Travis McMichaels. Once self defense is affirmed then the jury will see Travis was legally justified to use lethal force.

Sorry but the video destroys the self defense argument you hope will save two of the most ignorant gun owners the gun world has eve seen.

The “20th second” will be reconstructed in three dimensional recreations from the shadows under the truck and the movement of the white cap and the white shirt seen through the windshield.

Since you bring up the video you need to see these still shots again of the start of second 20 to the end of second 20.

You have not refuted them.

The shadow movements destroys TravisM’s case for self defense because the prosecution will ask him why his shotgun was in Arbery’s path and so close that Arbery could reach out and grab it when the first shot was fired. It will truly damn TravisM if that first shot was the one that wounded Arbery on the wrist.

 

[Jitss617]

and I seriously doubt any police officer told these two idiots to stop him by shooting him.

If he had not attacked the man holding the shotgun arbrey would be alive today

If Mc Michaels had minded their own business Arbery would be alive today.

If the McMichaels had approached Arbery like a normal human being and simply asked what he was doing Arbery would be alive today.

Had the McMichaels left Arbery alone and let the cops do their job, Arbery would be alive today.

If the McMichaels hadn’t chased Arbery maybe Arbery would be alive today.


If two white McMichaels had treated Arbery like a white man he’d be alive today.


But the McMichaels didn’t do that. They saw a black man checking out the construction of a house. Something BTW other people in the neighborhood had also done both white and black. It was caught on the property owner’s camera. THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS AWARE OF TRESPASSERS. It was his job to defend and secure his own property not the McMichaels. HE CHOSE NOT TO! Instead he installed the camera. The McMichaels stuck their nose where it didn’t belong. All the should have done is call the police and let them handle it. Instead they chased and harassed Arbery for no reason. The man didn’t take anything. For all the McMichaels knew Arbery was a friend of the owner checking on the property for him. Something people do all the time. But the McMichaels didn’t care about any of that. Instead they chased and killed an innocent man. The police said Arbery had no stolen property on him. The man was just jogging when two neighborhood bullies stalked him and shot him. Even the video shows the McMichaels waiting for Arbery, truck door open as an intimidation tactic or perhaps a challenge to bait the young man. The McMichaels could have taken a picture for police. They could have followed him at a distance until the police arrived. There were 1000 better ways to deal with this THEN KILLING HIM. I hope they rot in jail. They gave the Arbery family a much harsher sentence because they will never see their loved one again.

You will also note the charge is murder and not manslaughter. Something I was surprised at because the lesser charge manslaughter would be easier to prove. I’m not sure if the police are trying to get the McMichaels acquitted by making the prosecution prove a higher charge or if there’s more proof we don’t know about.
Guess we wait and see. Hopefully the aggravated assault charge will stick and the stupid bastards will get some jail time.

The only thing I blame McMicheals for based on evidence so far was getting out of the truck

they should have followed arbrey till the cops showed up to question him

but arbrey was a naturally angry and aggressive person and its likely arbrey attacked the son who was holding the shotgun

maybe new evidence will change that but so far thats how I see it

I agree that McMichael shouldn’t have gotten out of the truck. The problem is he did and now Arbery is dead. The McMichaels instigated the entire situation. But for the actions of the McMichaels, Arbery would be alive today. The McMichaels now have to pay for that action and poor judgement. They should have let the police handle it.

They will no doubt not be found guilty of murder because the reality is they should have been charged with manslaughter unless the cops know something we don’t. I think the only charge they will be found guilty of is aggravated assault.

If Arbery did not attack a man with a shotgun, he would be alive today. In prison, but alive.

In prison for what? Trespass? And who would press charges? Mr. English the owner? He didn’t even call the police. No, Mr Arbery would certainly not be in prison for anything related to this case. The police said he didn’t steal anything. No official in their right mind would send someone to prison/jail for trespass and definitely not during a pandemic. You’re delusional.

The intent to steal is a felony, we see him with a hammer, so they had a right to stop but didn’t

LOLOL

Liar, you do not see him with a hammer since there was no hammer.

You couldn't find a single news article stating there was a hammer. No one but racists like you on forums like this are even claiming there was a hammer.

Gregory McMichael, standing in the bed of his pickup truck and on the phone with 911 did not say Arbery was holding a hammer or that Arbery disposed of a hammer.

Travis McMichael who defense would be greatly bolstered if Arbery had a hammer did not say there was a hammer.

The police did not report a hammer was found.

Neither Gregory McMichael nor Travis McMichael told police Arbery had a hammer.

Bryan, the guy in the car following Arbery has said nothing about a hammer.

Larry English, the owner of the home under construction said no hammer was taken. And he had videos of Arbery inside the structure where he would have seen Arbery taking a hammer had he actually done so.

In the video, the stick on the ground you idiotically call a hammer is already on the ground before Arbery gets there; and Arbery is not seen on the video either holding a hammer or throwing a hammer.

There were other witnesses who were out there, none of who said anything about a hammer.

If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie like ya do.

The police report was not well put together, there was def a hammer AA stole, I have pics of it

Really! Maybe I should contact authorities and let them know. I’m sure they’d be interested that you are withholding evidence in a murder case.

It’s in the video, and from what I hear the new report includes the stolen hammer

it wasn’t found at the crime scene so it can’t be in the video. Nevertheless
Proof or it didn’t happen.

I saw a screen shot from the video of a hammer that he dropped. I cant guarantee its authenticity, but it look legit. Those pics are in this thread.

LOLOL

There is no hammer, ya moron.

I posted a video in rebuttal to that nonsense showing that object on the ground was already there.

Greg McMichael on the phone with 911 says nothing about a hammer.

Neither McMichael told the police about a hammer.

Nothing in the police report indicated a hammer was at or near the crime scene.

The homeowner has videos where he watched Arbery checking out his house and said nothing was taken.

Bryan was following Arbery in his car and said nothing about a hammer.

It makes no sense for Arbery to drop a hammer, if he had one, after being chased for 4 minutes and while he's approaching the McMichael's road block.

The only mention of a hammer in the news is that there wasn't one but that far rightwingers and neo-nazi's are claiming there was a hammer (and that Arbery was wearing Timberland boots and not sneakers).

I dont know if any of what you say is true, just like i said i couldnt verify the screen shots authenticity. YOU are the moron for thinking you KNOW the truth.

LOL

I already know you don't know shit. What was your point of reiterating that?

Neither of us KNOW the truth. All we have are news articles with tiny bits of information that we cant thoroughly verify, and the media is often wrong about these facts. YOU are the fucking moron for thinking you know exactly what happened.

Do you not understand how fucking dumb you are?

LOLOL

Drools the idiot who claims Arbery had a hammer.

When did i claim that? Quote my post. Lets see how accurate your accusation is.

Dumbfuck, it's in the quote you just posted.

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I saw a screen shot from the video of a hammer that he dropped.

What did the very next sentence say? Quote it all!

Why are you being dishonest? If you had a real argument, you wouldnt have to make up lies to defend your position.

If he was being honest he would have lost his response. Be fair now.

LOL

Dumbfuck, I quoted him.

Because it is so much fun making you look stupid, lets do this again!

You said...

"Drools the idiot who claims Arbery had a hammer. "

...but in reality, this is what i said...

"I saw a screen shot from the video of a hammer that he dropped. I cant guarantee its authenticity, but it looked legit "

What i said is an undeniable fact. I saw a screen shot of the hammer... FACT! I couldnt guarantee its authenticity... FACT! At no point have i ever said Arbery had a hammer. Are you ALWAYS wrong? Even a broken watch is right twice per day. Sheesh!

LOL

Imbecile, you couldn't have seen a screen shot of the hammer because there was no hammer.

A pity you lack even a spec of common sense.

Are you dense? The screen shot is in this very thread. Seriously, you cant possibly be this stupid. You make it WAAAYYY too easy to punk you.

It's not a hammer, I don't care how retarded you are.

You cant prove that.

It's been proven.

I posted a video in rebuttal to that nonsense showing that object on the ground was already there.

Greg McMichael on the phone with 911 says nothing about a hammer.

Neither McMichael told the police about a hammer.

Nothing in the police report indicated a hammer was at or near the crime scene.

The homeowner has videos where he watched Arbery checking out his house and said nothing was taken.

Bryan was following Arbery in his car and said nothing about a hammer.

It makes no sense for Arbery to drop a hammer, if he had one, after being chased for 4 minutes and while he's approaching the McMichael's road block.

The only mention of a hammer in the news is that there wasn't one but that far rightwingers and neo-nazi's are claiming there was a hammer (and that Arbery was wearing Timberland boots and not sneakers).

That police report was a joke! Why? Because it was justifiable homicide. It was on camera. Arbery ATTACKED TRAVIS!

 

[Jitss617]

Why did he run up and attack an armed man?

He's a moron.

Maybe he didn't believe that the red neck asshole would actually shoot him.

He knew since he was in violation of his parole that another arrest would most likely finally mean jail time. Thus he became suicidal and attacked a man with a shotgun.

By "attacked," you mean defending himself.

There was a eye witness.. IT WAS A EX COP! Who are they going to believe? The thug Arbery?

 

[Faun]

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I saw a screen shot from the video of a hammer that he dropped.

The construction site video doesn't show him picking up a hammer

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He walks in, looks around for half a minute, and leaves.

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Still not a hammer. Still not Timberland boots.

 

[Faun]

and I seriously doubt any police officer told these two idiots to stop him by shooting him.

If he had not attacked the man holding the shotgun arbrey would be alive today

If Mc Michaels had minded their own business Arbery would be alive today.

If the McMichaels had approached Arbery like a normal human being and simply asked what he was doing Arbery would be alive today.

Had the McMichaels left Arbery alone and let the cops do their job, Arbery would be alive today.

If the McMichaels hadn’t chased Arbery maybe Arbery would be alive today.


If two white McMichaels had treated Arbery like a white man he’d be alive today.


But the McMichaels didn’t do that. They saw a black man checking out the construction of a house. Something BTW other people in the neighborhood had also done both white and black. It was caught on the property owner’s camera. THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS AWARE OF TRESPASSERS. It was his job to defend and secure his own property not the McMichaels. HE CHOSE NOT TO! Instead he installed the camera. The McMichaels stuck their nose where it didn’t belong. All the should have done is call the police and let them handle it. Instead they chased and harassed Arbery for no reason. The man didn’t take anything. For all the McMichaels knew Arbery was a friend of the owner checking on the property for him. Something people do all the time. But the McMichaels didn’t care about any of that. Instead they chased and killed an innocent man. The police said Arbery had no stolen property on him. The man was just jogging when two neighborhood bullies stalked him and shot him. Even the video shows the McMichaels waiting for Arbery, truck door open as an intimidation tactic or perhaps a challenge to bait the young man. The McMichaels could have taken a picture for police. They could have followed him at a distance until the police arrived. There were 1000 better ways to deal with this THEN KILLING HIM. I hope they rot in jail. They gave the Arbery family a much harsher sentence because they will never see their loved one again.

You will also note the charge is murder and not manslaughter. Something I was surprised at because the lesser charge manslaughter would be easier to prove. I’m not sure if the police are trying to get the McMichaels acquitted by making the prosecution prove a higher charge or if there’s more proof we don’t know about.
Guess we wait and see. Hopefully the aggravated assault charge will stick and the stupid bastards will get some jail time.

The only thing I blame McMicheals for based on evidence so far was getting out of the truck

they should have followed arbrey till the cops showed up to question him

but arbrey was a naturally angry and aggressive person and its likely arbrey attacked the son who was holding the shotgun

maybe new evidence will change that but so far thats how I see it

I agree that McMichael shouldn’t have gotten out of the truck. The problem is he did and now Arbery is dead. The McMichaels instigated the entire situation. But for the actions of the McMichaels, Arbery would be alive today. The McMichaels now have to pay for that action and poor judgement. They should have let the police handle it.

They will no doubt not be found guilty of murder because the reality is they should have been charged with manslaughter unless the cops know something we don’t. I think the only charge they will be found guilty of is aggravated assault.

If Arbery did not attack a man with a shotgun, he would be alive today. In prison, but alive.

In prison for what? Trespass? And who would press charges? Mr. English the owner? He didn’t even call the police. No, Mr Arbery would certainly not be in prison for anything related to this case. The police said he didn’t steal anything. No official in their right mind would send someone to prison/jail for trespass and definitely not during a pandemic. You’re delusional.

The intent to steal is a felony, we see him with a hammer, so they had a right to stop but didn’t

LOLOL

Liar, you do not see him with a hammer since there was no hammer.

You couldn't find a single news article stating there was a hammer. No one but racists like you on forums like this are even claiming there was a hammer.

Gregory McMichael, standing in the bed of his pickup truck and on the phone with 911 did not say Arbery was holding a hammer or that Arbery disposed of a hammer.

Travis McMichael who defense would be greatly bolstered if Arbery had a hammer did not say there was a hammer.

The police did not report a hammer was found.

Neither Gregory McMichael nor Travis McMichael told police Arbery had a hammer.

Bryan, the guy in the car following Arbery has said nothing about a hammer.

Larry English, the owner of the home under construction said no hammer was taken. And he had videos of Arbery inside the structure where he would have seen Arbery taking a hammer had he actually done so.

In the video, the stick on the ground you idiotically call a hammer is already on the ground before Arbery gets there; and Arbery is not seen on the video either holding a hammer or throwing a hammer.

There were other witnesses who were out there, none of who said anything about a hammer.

If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie like ya do.

The police report was not well put together, there was def a hammer AA stole, I have pics of it

Really! Maybe I should contact authorities and let them know. I’m sure they’d be interested that you are withholding evidence in a murder case.

It’s in the video, and from what I hear the new report includes the stolen hammer

it wasn’t found at the crime scene so it can’t be in the video. Nevertheless
Proof or it didn’t happen.

I saw a screen shot from the video of a hammer that he dropped. I cant guarantee its authenticity, but it look legit. Those pics are in this thread.

LOLOL

There is no hammer, ya moron.

I posted a video in rebuttal to that nonsense showing that object on the ground was already there.

Greg McMichael on the phone with 911 says nothing about a hammer.

Neither McMichael told the police about a hammer.

Nothing in the police report indicated a hammer was at or near the crime scene.

The homeowner has videos where he watched Arbery checking out his house and said nothing was taken.

Bryan was following Arbery in his car and said nothing about a hammer.

It makes no sense for Arbery to drop a hammer, if he had one, after being chased for 4 minutes and while he's approaching the McMichael's road block.

The only mention of a hammer in the news is that there wasn't one but that far rightwingers and neo-nazi's are claiming there was a hammer (and that Arbery was wearing Timberland boots and not sneakers).

I dont know if any of what you say is true, just like i said i couldnt verify the screen shots authenticity. YOU are the moron for thinking you KNOW the truth.

LOL

I already know you don't know shit. What was your point of reiterating that?

Neither of us KNOW the truth. All we have are news articles with tiny bits of information that we cant thoroughly verify, and the media is often wrong about these facts. YOU are the fucking moron for thinking you know exactly what happened.

Do you not understand how fucking dumb you are?

LOLOL

Drools the idiot who claims Arbery had a hammer.

When did i claim that? Quote my post. Lets see how accurate your accusation is.

Dumbfuck, it's in the quote you just posted.

​

I saw a screen shot from the video of a hammer that he dropped.

What did the very next sentence say? Quote it all!

Why are you being dishonest? If you had a real argument, you wouldnt have to make up lies to defend your position.

If he was being honest he would have lost his response. Be fair now.

LOL

Dumbfuck, I quoted him.

Because it is so much fun making you look stupid, lets do this again!

You said...

"Drools the idiot who claims Arbery had a hammer. "

...but in reality, this is what i said...

"I saw a screen shot from the video of a hammer that he dropped. I cant guarantee its authenticity, but it looked legit "

What i said is an undeniable fact. I saw a screen shot of the hammer... FACT! I couldnt guarantee its authenticity... FACT! At no point have i ever said Arbery had a hammer. Are you ALWAYS wrong? Even a broken watch is right twice per day. Sheesh!

LOL

Imbecile, you couldn't have seen a screen shot of the hammer because there was no hammer.

A pity you lack even a spec of common sense.

Are you dense? The screen shot is in this very thread. Seriously, you cant possibly be this stupid. You make it WAAAYYY too easy to punk you.

It's not a hammer, I don't care how retarded you are.

You cant prove that.

It's been proven.

I posted a video in rebuttal to that nonsense showing that object on the ground was already there.

Greg McMichael on the phone with 911 says nothing about a hammer.

Neither McMichael told the police about a hammer.

Nothing in the police report indicated a hammer was at or near the crime scene.

The homeowner has videos where he watched Arbery checking out his house and said nothing was taken.

Bryan was following Arbery in his car and said nothing about a hammer.

It makes no sense for Arbery to drop a hammer, if he had one, after being chased for 4 minutes and while he's approaching the McMichael's road block.

The only mention of a hammer in the news is that there wasn't one but that far rightwingers and neo-nazi's are claiming there was a hammer (and that Arbery was wearing Timberland boots and not sneakers).

That police report was a joke! Why? Because it was justifiable homicide. It was on camera. Arbery ATTACKED TRAVIS!

Nope, Arbery acted in self defense.

 

[Meathead]

and I seriously doubt any police officer told these two idiots to stop him by shooting him.

If he had not attacked the man holding the shotgun arbrey would be alive today

If Mc Michaels had minded their own business Arbery would be alive today.

If the McMichaels had approached Arbery like a normal human being and simply asked what he was doing Arbery would be alive today.

Had the McMichaels left Arbery alone and let the cops do their job, Arbery would be alive today.

If the McMichaels hadn’t chased Arbery maybe Arbery would be alive today.


If two white McMichaels had treated Arbery like a white man he’d be alive today.


But the McMichaels didn’t do that. They saw a black man checking out the construction of a house. Something BTW other people in the neighborhood had also done both white and black. It was caught on the property owner’s camera. THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS AWARE OF TRESPASSERS. It was his job to defend and secure his own property not the McMichaels. HE CHOSE NOT TO! Instead he installed the camera. The McMichaels stuck their nose where it didn’t belong. All the should have done is call the police and let them handle it. Instead they chased and harassed Arbery for no reason. The man didn’t take anything. For all the McMichaels knew Arbery was a friend of the owner checking on the property for him. Something people do all the time. But the McMichaels didn’t care about any of that. Instead they chased and killed an innocent man. The police said Arbery had no stolen property on him. The man was just jogging when two neighborhood bullies stalked him and shot him. Even the video shows the McMichaels waiting for Arbery, truck door open as an intimidation tactic or perhaps a challenge to bait the young man. The McMichaels could have taken a picture for police. They could have followed him at a distance until the police arrived. There were 1000 better ways to deal with this THEN KILLING HIM. I hope they rot in jail. They gave the Arbery family a much harsher sentence because they will never see their loved one again.

You will also note the charge is murder and not manslaughter. Something I was surprised at because the lesser charge manslaughter would be easier to prove. I’m not sure if the police are trying to get the McMichaels acquitted by making the prosecution prove a higher charge or if there’s more proof we don’t know about.
Guess we wait and see. Hopefully the aggravated assault charge will stick and the stupid bastards will get some jail time.

The only thing I blame McMicheals for based on evidence so far was getting out of the truck

they should have followed arbrey till the cops showed up to question him

but arbrey was a naturally angry and aggressive person and its likely arbrey attacked the son who was holding the shotgun

maybe new evidence will change that but so far thats how I see it

I agree that McMichael shouldn’t have gotten out of the truck. The problem is he did and now Arbery is dead. The McMichaels instigated the entire situation. But for the actions of the McMichaels, Arbery would be alive today. The McMichaels now have to pay for that action and poor judgement. They should have let the police handle it.

They will no doubt not be found guilty of murder because the reality is they should have been charged with manslaughter unless the cops know something we don’t. I think the only charge they will be found guilty of is aggravated assault.

If Arbery did not attack a man with a shotgun, he would be alive today. In prison, but alive.

In prison for what? Trespass? And who would press charges? Mr. English the owner? He didn’t even call the police. No, Mr Arbery would certainly not be in prison for anything related to this case. The police said he didn’t steal anything. No official in their right mind would send someone to prison/jail for trespass and definitely not during a pandemic. You’re delusional.

The intent to steal is a felony, we see him with a hammer, so they had a right to stop but didn’t

LOLOL

Liar, you do not see him with a hammer since there was no hammer.

You couldn't find a single news article stating there was a hammer. No one but racists like you on forums like this are even claiming there was a hammer.

Gregory McMichael, standing in the bed of his pickup truck and on the phone with 911 did not say Arbery was holding a hammer or that Arbery disposed of a hammer.

Travis McMichael who defense would be greatly bolstered if Arbery had a hammer did not say there was a hammer.

The police did not report a hammer was found.

Neither Gregory McMichael nor Travis McMichael told police Arbery had a hammer.

Bryan, the guy in the car following Arbery has said nothing about a hammer.

Larry English, the owner of the home under construction said no hammer was taken. And he had videos of Arbery inside the structure where he would have seen Arbery taking a hammer had he actually done so.

In the video, the stick on the ground you idiotically call a hammer is already on the ground before Arbery gets there; and Arbery is not seen on the video either holding a hammer or throwing a hammer.

There were other witnesses who were out there, none of who said anything about a hammer.

If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie like ya do.

The police report was not well put together, there was def a hammer AA stole, I have pics of it

Really! Maybe I should contact authorities and let them know. I’m sure they’d be interested that you are withholding evidence in a murder case.

It’s in the video, and from what I hear the new report includes the stolen hammer

it wasn’t found at the crime scene so it can’t be in the video. Nevertheless
Proof or it didn’t happen.

I saw a screen shot from the video of a hammer that he dropped. I cant guarantee its authenticity, but it look legit. Those pics are in this thread.

LOLOL

There is no hammer, ya moron.

I posted a video in rebuttal to that nonsense showing that object on the ground was already there.

Greg McMichael on the phone with 911 says nothing about a hammer.

Neither McMichael told the police about a hammer.

Nothing in the police report indicated a hammer was at or near the crime scene.

The homeowner has videos where he watched Arbery checking out his house and said nothing was taken.

Bryan was following Arbery in his car and said nothing about a hammer.

It makes no sense for Arbery to drop a hammer, if he had one, after being chased for 4 minutes and while he's approaching the McMichael's road block.

The only mention of a hammer in the news is that there wasn't one but that far rightwingers and neo-nazi's are claiming there was a hammer (and that Arbery was wearing Timberland boots and not sneakers).

I dont know if any of what you say is true, just like i said i couldnt verify the screen shots authenticity. YOU are the moron for thinking you KNOW the truth.

LOL

I already know you don't know shit. What was your point of reiterating that?

Neither of us KNOW the truth. All we have are news articles with tiny bits of information that we cant thoroughly verify, and the media is often wrong about these facts. YOU are the fucking moron for thinking you know exactly what happened.

Do you not understand how fucking dumb you are?

LOLOL

Drools the idiot who claims Arbery had a hammer.

When did i claim that? Quote my post. Lets see how accurate your accusation is.

Dumbfuck, it's in the quote you just posted.

​

I saw a screen shot from the video of a hammer that he dropped.

What did the very next sentence say? Quote it all!

Why are you being dishonest? If you had a real argument, you wouldnt have to make up lies to defend your position.

If he was being honest he would have lost his response. Be fair now.

LOL

Dumbfuck, I quoted him.

Because it is so much fun making you look stupid, lets do this again!

You said...

"Drools the idiot who claims Arbery had a hammer. "

...but in reality, this is what i said...

"I saw a screen shot from the video of a hammer that he dropped. I cant guarantee its authenticity, but it looked legit "

What i said is an undeniable fact. I saw a screen shot of the hammer... FACT! I couldnt guarantee its authenticity... FACT! At no point have i ever said Arbery had a hammer. Are you ALWAYS wrong? Even a broken watch is right twice per day. Sheesh!

LOL

Imbecile, you couldn't have seen a screen shot of the hammer because there was no hammer.

A pity you lack even a spec of common sense.

Are you dense? The screen shot is in this very thread. Seriously, you cant possibly be this stupid. You make it WAAAYYY too easy to punk you.

It's not a hammer, I don't care how retarded you are.

You cant prove that.

It's been proven.

I posted a video in rebuttal to that nonsense showing that object on the ground was already there.

Greg McMichael on the phone with 911 says nothing about a hammer.

Neither McMichael told the police about a hammer.

Nothing in the police report indicated a hammer was at or near the crime scene.

The homeowner has videos where he watched Arbery checking out his house and said nothing was taken.

Bryan was following Arbery in his car and said nothing about a hammer.

It makes no sense for Arbery to drop a hammer, if he had one, after being chased for 4 minutes and while he's approaching the McMichael's road block.

The only mention of a hammer in the news is that there wasn't one but that far rightwingers and neo-nazi's are claiming there was a hammer (and that Arbery was wearing Timberland boots and not sneakers).

That police report was a joke! Why? Because it was justifiable homicide. It was on camera. Arbery ATTACKED TRAVIS!

Nope, Arbery acted in self defense.

You mean like Big Mike and Trayvon? FFS, give it up. Race pimps are going full speed on this, but we do have a justice system and a video here.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

There was a eye witness.. IT WAS A EX COP!

Arbery is unable to be a witness. GregM is charged with aggravated assault and murder. Whatever he says he witnessed when the first shot was fired In front of the truck during the 20th second of the video is not relevant to crimes he is charged with.

If he and his dumbass son are proven in court to be felons on the aggravated assault charge then neither him or his dumbass offspring can claim self defense.

 

[Jitss617]

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I saw a screen shot from the video of a hammer that he dropped.

The construction site video doesn't show him picking up a hammer

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He walks in, looks around for half a minute, and leaves.

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Still not a hammer. Still not Timberland boots.

It’s definitely a hammer, but don’t let that distract you from the crimes, breaking into a dwelling, and Assaulting the neighborhood hero

 

[Jitss617]

and I seriously doubt any police officer told these two idiots to stop him by shooting him.

If he had not attacked the man holding the shotgun arbrey would be alive today

If Mc Michaels had minded their own business Arbery would be alive today.

If the McMichaels had approached Arbery like a normal human being and simply asked what he was doing Arbery would be alive today.

Had the McMichaels left Arbery alone and let the cops do their job, Arbery would be alive today.

If the McMichaels hadn’t chased Arbery maybe Arbery would be alive today.


If two white McMichaels had treated Arbery like a white man he’d be alive today.


But the McMichaels didn’t do that. They saw a black man checking out the construction of a house. Something BTW other people in the neighborhood had also done both white and black. It was caught on the property owner’s camera. THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS AWARE OF TRESPASSERS. It was his job to defend and secure his own property not the McMichaels. HE CHOSE NOT TO! Instead he installed the camera. The McMichaels stuck their nose where it didn’t belong. All the should have done is call the police and let them handle it. Instead they chased and harassed Arbery for no reason. The man didn’t take anything. For all the McMichaels knew Arbery was a friend of the owner checking on the property for him. Something people do all the time. But the McMichaels didn’t care about any of that. Instead they chased and killed an innocent man. The police said Arbery had no stolen property on him. The man was just jogging when two neighborhood bullies stalked him and shot him. Even the video shows the McMichaels waiting for Arbery, truck door open as an intimidation tactic or perhaps a challenge to bait the young man. The McMichaels could have taken a picture for police. They could have followed him at a distance until the police arrived. There were 1000 better ways to deal with this THEN KILLING HIM. I hope they rot in jail. They gave the Arbery family a much harsher sentence because they will never see their loved one again.

You will also note the charge is murder and not manslaughter. Something I was surprised at because the lesser charge manslaughter would be easier to prove. I’m not sure if the police are trying to get the McMichaels acquitted by making the prosecution prove a higher charge or if there’s more proof we don’t know about.
Guess we wait and see. Hopefully the aggravated assault charge will stick and the stupid bastards will get some jail time.

The only thing I blame McMicheals for based on evidence so far was getting out of the truck

they should have followed arbrey till the cops showed up to question him

but arbrey was a naturally angry and aggressive person and its likely arbrey attacked the son who was holding the shotgun

maybe new evidence will change that but so far thats how I see it

I agree that McMichael shouldn’t have gotten out of the truck. The problem is he did and now Arbery is dead. The McMichaels instigated the entire situation. But for the actions of the McMichaels, Arbery would be alive today. The McMichaels now have to pay for that action and poor judgement. They should have let the police handle it.

They will no doubt not be found guilty of murder because the reality is they should have been charged with manslaughter unless the cops know something we don’t. I think the only charge they will be found guilty of is aggravated assault.

If Arbery did not attack a man with a shotgun, he would be alive today. In prison, but alive.

In prison for what? Trespass? And who would press charges? Mr. English the owner? He didn’t even call the police. No, Mr Arbery would certainly not be in prison for anything related to this case. The police said he didn’t steal anything. No official in their right mind would send someone to prison/jail for trespass and definitely not during a pandemic. You’re delusional.

The intent to steal is a felony, we see him with a hammer, so they had a right to stop but didn’t

LOLOL

Liar, you do not see him with a hammer since there was no hammer.

You couldn't find a single news article stating there was a hammer. No one but racists like you on forums like this are even claiming there was a hammer.

Gregory McMichael, standing in the bed of his pickup truck and on the phone with 911 did not say Arbery was holding a hammer or that Arbery disposed of a hammer.

Travis McMichael who defense would be greatly bolstered if Arbery had a hammer did not say there was a hammer.

The police did not report a hammer was found.

Neither Gregory McMichael nor Travis McMichael told police Arbery had a hammer.

Bryan, the guy in the car following Arbery has said nothing about a hammer.

Larry English, the owner of the home under construction said no hammer was taken. And he had videos of Arbery inside the structure where he would have seen Arbery taking a hammer had he actually done so.

In the video, the stick on the ground you idiotically call a hammer is already on the ground before Arbery gets there; and Arbery is not seen on the video either holding a hammer or throwing a hammer.

There were other witnesses who were out there, none of who said anything about a hammer.

If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie like ya do.

The police report was not well put together, there was def a hammer AA stole, I have pics of it

Really! Maybe I should contact authorities and let them know. I’m sure they’d be interested that you are withholding evidence in a murder case.

It’s in the video, and from what I hear the new report includes the stolen hammer

it wasn’t found at the crime scene so it can’t be in the video. Nevertheless
Proof or it didn’t happen.

I saw a screen shot from the video of a hammer that he dropped. I cant guarantee its authenticity, but it look legit. Those pics are in this thread.

LOLOL

There is no hammer, ya moron.

I posted a video in rebuttal to that nonsense showing that object on the ground was already there.

Greg McMichael on the phone with 911 says nothing about a hammer.

Neither McMichael told the police about a hammer.

Nothing in the police report indicated a hammer was at or near the crime scene.

The homeowner has videos where he watched Arbery checking out his house and said nothing was taken.

Bryan was following Arbery in his car and said nothing about a hammer.

It makes no sense for Arbery to drop a hammer, if he had one, after being chased for 4 minutes and while he's approaching the McMichael's road block.

The only mention of a hammer in the news is that there wasn't one but that far rightwingers and neo-nazi's are claiming there was a hammer (and that Arbery was wearing Timberland boots and not sneakers).

I dont know if any of what you say is true, just like i said i couldnt verify the screen shots authenticity. YOU are the moron for thinking you KNOW the truth.

LOL

I already know you don't know shit. What was your point of reiterating that?

Neither of us KNOW the truth. All we have are news articles with tiny bits of information that we cant thoroughly verify, and the media is often wrong about these facts. YOU are the fucking moron for thinking you know exactly what happened.

Do you not understand how fucking dumb you are?

LOLOL

Drools the idiot who claims Arbery had a hammer.

When did i claim that? Quote my post. Lets see how accurate your accusation is.

Dumbfuck, it's in the quote you just posted.

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I saw a screen shot from the video of a hammer that he dropped.

What did the very next sentence say? Quote it all!

Why are you being dishonest? If you had a real argument, you wouldnt have to make up lies to defend your position.

If he was being honest he would have lost his response. Be fair now.

LOL

Dumbfuck, I quoted him.

Because it is so much fun making you look stupid, lets do this again!

You said...

"Drools the idiot who claims Arbery had a hammer. "

...but in reality, this is what i said...

"I saw a screen shot from the video of a hammer that he dropped. I cant guarantee its authenticity, but it looked legit "

What i said is an undeniable fact. I saw a screen shot of the hammer... FACT! I couldnt guarantee its authenticity... FACT! At no point have i ever said Arbery had a hammer. Are you ALWAYS wrong? Even a broken watch is right twice per day. Sheesh!

LOL

Imbecile, you couldn't have seen a screen shot of the hammer because there was no hammer.

A pity you lack even a spec of common sense.

Are you dense? The screen shot is in this very thread. Seriously, you cant possibly be this stupid. You make it WAAAYYY too easy to punk you.

It's not a hammer, I don't care how retarded you are.

You cant prove that.

It's been proven.

I posted a video in rebuttal to that nonsense showing that object on the ground was already there.

Greg McMichael on the phone with 911 says nothing about a hammer.

Neither McMichael told the police about a hammer.

Nothing in the police report indicated a hammer was at or near the crime scene.

The homeowner has videos where he watched Arbery checking out his house and said nothing was taken.

Bryan was following Arbery in his car and said nothing about a hammer.

It makes no sense for Arbery to drop a hammer, if he had one, after being chased for 4 minutes and while he's approaching the McMichael's road block.

The only mention of a hammer in the news is that there wasn't one but that far rightwingers and neo-nazi's are claiming there was a hammer (and that Arbery was wearing Timberland boots and not sneakers).

That police report was a joke! Why? Because it was justifiable homicide. It was on camera. Arbery ATTACKED TRAVIS!

Nope, Arbery acted in self defense.

Not what the eye witness said , his father watching it

 

[Jitss617]

There was a eye witness.. IT WAS A EX COP!

Arbery is unable to be a witness. GregM is charged with aggravated assault and murder. Whatever he says he witnessed when the first shot was fired In front of the truck during the 20th second of the video is not relevant to crimes he is charged with.

If he and his dumbass son are proven in court to be felons on the aggravated assault charge then neither him or his dumbass offspring can claim self defense.

He is the only eye witness. Heheh.. hahahha .. hahahahah

 

[Faun]

Of course you can.

The point is you do not have to stop and talk to a man with a shotgun who is a stranger and is ordering you to stop and talk to him with a shotgun and he’s got another guy right close by with a 357 magnum as backup.

Nobody is claiming he had to stop. Yet if he had stopped and engaged in coversation he would be alive today.

Many cannot understand why he did not do that.

One good theory is that he feared he would be arrested. and since he was already in violation of parole probably figured he would definitely go to jail this time.

Yet he knew he could not escape...could not outrun that truck....so he got flustered and panic set in. Like a lot of cornered animals he decided to fight.

Dumbfuck, prove Arbery was on parole the day he was killed...

 

[NotfooledbyW]

He was a retard. The former d.a. talked about it.

Are you building a defense for three white men with a shotgun and a 357 magnum that it was justifiable to chase and try to capture an unarmed retarded black guy who ran by their house because the retarded black guy tried to fight for his life.

 

[Jitss617]

He was a retard. The former d.a. talked about it.

Are you building a defense for three white men with a shotgun and a 357 magnum that it was justifiable to chase and try to capture an unarmed retarded black guy who ran by their house because the retarded black guy tried to fight for his life.

That didn’t happen.. if so can you show in the video of a chase? Where was the capture?

 

[Faun]

Why did he run up and attack an armed man?

He's a moron.

Maybe he didn't believe that the red neck asshole would actually shoot him.

He knew since he was in violation of his parole that another arrest would most likely finally mean jail time. Thus he became suicidal and attacked a man with a shotgun.

By "attacked," you mean defending himself.

There was a eye witness.. IT WAS A EX COP! Who are they going to believe? The thug Arbery?

LOL

You mean the ex cop who is facing charges of murder and aggravated assault? That ex cop?