Victory in Mosul, Daesh dead!

yea a lot of people died to take over a city of rubble....the idea of a caliphate cannot be defeated with bullets and bombs

The Caliphate can absolutely be stopped from forming with bullets and bombs. Oh and thank the premature withdrawal from Iraq for Mosul becoming a city of rubble
 
i am gonna go with marion on this...after bush 1 used his veto to stop saddam from being censored by the un...saddam saw no reason to think his invading kuwait would be that troublesome to bush....

Washington’s complicity in Hussein’s crimes

President Bush is fond of citing the Anfal campaign and accusing Hussein of “gassing his own people,” but the chief international backer of the Baathist regime in the 1980s was the US itself.

That's an overt lie it was the Soviets along with the Germans and French, check your facts bud, the US only provided appx. .5% of Saddams conventional armament consisting of dual use items; such as, helicopters and bulldozers retrofitted for military use after delivery that's why they had T52s not M1A1s, AK47s not M16s, and MIGs and Mirages not F15s and F16s and; furthermore, according to Saddam's own UN disclosure his precursor chemicals didn't come from the US either.
 
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That's right! ISIS ass is kicked! US- backed Peshmerga, Iraqi forces, and SAA and Russia done got 'um! Oh, this is a great day!

Awesome. Let's make a list of everyone we armed to do our fighting for us so when they turn on us in 5 years, we'll know who they are.

The Peshmerga aren't going to turn on us they are Kurds not Sunni.

Most Kurds consider themselves Sunni.

They don't make their wimmens wear the hijab. Islam is bad all the way around.
 
Watching the video, these guys have .308s and M249 SAWs.

Again, we need to make sure that we keep track, so when they turn on us like Saddam, Bin Laden and the Libyan Rebels did, we know who they are.

Saddam didn't "turn on us".

The Bushes fucked him over and he put a bounty on their heads.

As a result, countless people suffered and died.

Saddam had his own agenda. Saddam used the support the West gave to him to build a secret nuclear enrichment facility. Imo, it is one of the reasons President Bush(41) snookered him into invading Kuwait.
 
ahh marion i did not expect you to think that bullets can overcome ideas.....
You're right that bullets can't overcome ideas, but when those idea men have large cities and populations under their control, they can fund much more mischief and accomplish a lot more havoc, destruction and murder. Their safe space had to be taken away. But you're right, it was only step one.
 
yea a lot of people died to take over a city of rubble....the idea of a caliphate cannot be defeated with bullets and bombs

The Caliphate can absolutely be stopped from forming with bullets and bombs. Oh and thank the premature withdrawal from Iraq for Mosul becoming a city of rubble

Don't forget to thank the unnecessary invasion, occupation along with the invading authority being forced to accept a SOFA that set the definitive time table for our complete withdrawal in 2008, or be forced to leave the country before 2009!
 
That's right! ISIS ass is kicked! US- backed Peshmerga, Iraqi forces, and SAA and Russia done got 'um! Oh, this is a great day!

Awesome. Let's make a list of everyone we armed to do our fighting for us so when they turn on us in 5 years, we'll know who they are.

The Peshmerga aren't going to turn on us they are Kurds not Sunni.

Most Kurds consider themselves Sunni.

As a whole, the Kurdish people are adherents to a large number of different religions and creeds, perhaps constituting the most religiously diverse people of West Asia. Traditionally, Kurds have been known to take great liberties with their practices. This sentiment is reflected in the saying "Compared to the unbeliever, the Kurd is a Muslim".[215]


Kurds - Wikipedia

The Kurds are the the most liberal Muslim group on the planet and IMHO the only Muslim group that should be granted access to western civilization.
 
Don't forget to thank the unnecessary invasion, occupation along with the invading authority

You mean OIF which the majority of Democrats voted for? Oh I didn't.


being forced to accept a SOFA that set the definitive time table for our complete withdrawal in 2008, or be forced to leave the country before 2009!

Don't give me that shit, the SOFA allowed the US to keep troops in Iraq in non-combat rolls, the SOFA allowed combat troops to remain in Iraq for more than a year (Dec. 2011) after Obama pulled pulled out the last of the combat troops (Aug. 2010) and Obama could have renegotiated the SOFA when the 2008 one expired in 2011 which he didn't even attempt so spare me your revisionist history, the Iraqis came begging for US troops to return after ISIS left their Assad granted safe have and crossed from Syria into Iraq.

Furthermore; there were loopholes allowing combat troops to remain in Iraq indefinitely:

Loopholes in US-Iraq Security Pact | Geopolitical Monitor

Obama withdrew before he had to and he did so not because he was bound by the SOFA but because he ran on a campaign of snatching defeat from victory.
 
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That's right! ISIS ass is kicked! US- backed Peshmerga, Iraqi forces, and SAA and Russia done got 'um! Oh, this is a great day!

Awesome. Let's make a list of everyone we armed to do our fighting for us so when they turn on us in 5 years, we'll know who they are.

The Peshmerga aren't going to turn on us they are Kurds not Sunni.

Most Kurds consider themselves Sunni.

As a whole, the Kurdish people are adherents to a large number of different religions and creeds, perhaps constituting the most religiously diverse people of West Asia. Traditionally, Kurds have been known to take great liberties with their practices. This sentiment is reflected in the saying "Compared to the unbeliever, the Kurd is a Muslim".[215]


Kurds - Wikipedia

The Kurds are the the most liberal Muslim group on the planet and IMHO the only Muslim group that should be granted access to western civilization.

30 million mostly decent people without a country of their own.

One of the greatest crime of humanity, especially Great Britain.
 
Don't forget to thank the unnecessary invasion, occupation along with the invading authority

You mean OIF which the majority of Democrats voted for? Oh I didn't.


being forced to accept a SOFA that set the definitive time table for our complete withdrawal in 2008, or be forced to leave the country before 2009!

Don't give me that shit, the SOFA allowed the US to keep troops in Iraq in non-combat rolls, the SOFA allowed combat troops to remain in Iraq for more than a year (Dec. 2011) after Obama pulled pulled out the last of the combat troops (Aug. 2010) and Obama could have renegotiated the SOFA when the 2008 one expired in 2011 which he didn't even attempt so spare me your revisionist history, the Iraqis came begging for US troops to return after ISIS left their Assad granted safe have and crossed from Syria into Iraq.

Furthermore; there were loopholes allowing combat troops to remain in Iraq indefinitely:

Loopholes in US-Iraq Security Pact | Geopolitical Monitor

Obama withdrew before he had to and he did so not because he was bound by the SOFA but because he ran on a campaign of snatching defeat from victory.

On the resolution to give President Bush the authority to use military force, in Oct 2002 the majority of Democrats in congress voted against the measure. A vote the president urged Congress to pass so he could add teeth to the upcoming UNSC resolution concerning a final round of unfettered inspections, which it did.

https://www.state.gov/documents/organization/122074.pdf

Here is the agreement. President Obama withdrew in Oct 2011, a few weeks early. There were no loopholes. All combat troop were pulled from the population centers by June 30 2009.

Btw Iraq could have asked us to leave at any time too.

Iraq’s Government, Not Obama, Called Time on the U.S. Troop Presence | TIME.com

In one of his final acts in office, President Bush in December of 2008 had signed a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with the Iraqi government that set the clock ticking on ending the war he’d launched in March of 2003. The SOFA provided a legal basis for the presence of U.S. forces in Iraq after the United Nations Security Council mandate for the occupation mission expired at the end of 2008. But it required that all U.S. forces be gone from Iraq by January 1, 2012, unless the Iraqi government was willing to negotiate a new agreement that would extend their mandate. And as Middle East historian Juan Cole has noted, “Bush had to sign what the [Iraqi] parliament gave him or face the prospect that U.S. troops would have to leave by 31 December, 2008, something that would have been interpreted as a defeat… Bush and his generals clearly expected, however, that over time Washington would be able to wriggle out of the treaty and would find a way to keep a division or so in Iraq past that deadline.”

But ending the U.S. troop presence in Iraq was an overwhelmingly popular demand among Iraqis, and Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki appears to have been unwilling to take the political risk of extending it. While he was inclined to see a small number of American soldiers stay behind to continue mentoring Iraqi forces, the likes of Shi’ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, on whose support Maliki’s ruling coalition depends, were having none of it. Even the Obama Administration’s plan to keep some 3,000 trainers behind failed because the Iraqis were unwilling to grant them the legal immunity from local prosecution that is common to SOF agreements in most countries where U.S. forces are based.
 
i'll never understand why people shoot bullets up into the air in crowds. where the hell's it gonna land people?
 

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