bripat9643
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Sweden______19
USA_________12
It's only slightly more socialist than the USA.
Venezuelans who fled socialism destroy AOC
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Sweden______19
USA_________12
It's only slightly more socialist than the USA.
Lesh
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What they are...is rich entitled assholes...asshole
So you spout Sweden is a success. What about the rest of the generalized generic socialist nations? Perhaps the people are a bit different in its application and the way it is administered. You hate white people and want them exterminated and yet bring them up as a model of socialist perfection. There are issues with their socialism. But really. Do you think the IQ levels are higher for them then the people in Venezuela? There has to be an answer. Central and South America nd the Islands have to many issues in the Western Hemisphere.
My claim was Social Dems are losing everywhere.
BasicHumanUnit
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Stupidity of this degree, does not deserve freedom.
I've said it before, not everyone can handle freedom.
mamooth is a prime example.
BasicHumanUnit
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Yep, rich entitled PROGRESSIVE, Democratic Socialist assholes
georgephillip
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ODS HOME PAGE
""37. Modern-day economic sanctions and blockades are comparable with medieval sieges of towns with the intention of forcing them to surrender. Twenty-first century sanctions attempt to bring not just a town, but sovereign countries to their knees.
"A difference, perhaps, is that twenty-first century sanctions are accompanied by the manipulation of public opinion through 'fake news', aggressive public relations and a pseudo-human rights rhetoric so as to give the impression that a human rights 'end' justifies the criminal means.
"There is not only a horizontal juridical world order governed by the Charter of the United Nations and principles of sovereign equality, but also a vertical world order reflecting the hierarchy of a geopolitical system that links dominant States with the rest of the world according to military and economic power.
"It is the latter, geopolitical system that generates geopolitical crimes, hitherto in total impunity. It is reported that the United States is currently training foreign lawyers in how to draft legislation to impose further sanctions on the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela in an effort to asphyxiate Venezuelan State institutions."
koshergrl
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Progressives preaching and teaching communism to our kids...while accepting money from rich people to cheat the merit system.
koshergrl
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I didn't make any claims about Sweden.
I said socialism causes rampant corruption. I said nothing about Sweden.
" It is certainly true that Sweden, Norway, Finland, and Denmark are notable economic successes. What is false is that these countries are particularly socialist."
"The myth of Nordic socialism is partially created by a confusion between socialism, meaning government exerting control or ownership of businesses, and the welfare state in the form of government-provided social safety net programs."
"...it is worth noting that the Nordic counties were economic successes before they built their welfare states. "
"Those productive economies, generating good incomes for their workers, allowed the governments to raise the tax revenue needed to pay for the social benefits. It was not the government benefits that created wealth, but wealth that allowed the luxury of such generous government programs.
"Second, as evidence of the lack of government interference in business affairs, there is the fact that none of these countries have minimum wage laws. Unions are reasonably powerful in many industries and negotiate contracts, but the government does nothing to ensure any particular outcome from those negotiations. Workers are paid what they are worth, not based on government’s perception of what is fair."
Please stop pretending that Sweden is a great example of the success of socialism. It isn't. People who think it is are just ignorant, brainwashed rubes.
Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist
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Yes but Lesh has a problem with the statement being the vast majority of socialism being corrupt, but not all are and those are very few and far in-between when they aren't .
Like Sweden.
koshergrl
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Once we cast off the shackles of the left, people like mamooth will languish either in a mental health facility, or in prison.
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Venezuela can not do business with the rest of the world when the US prevents access to international payments:
ODS HOME PAGE (P. 14)
"38. The Banco Central de Venezuela informed the Independent Expert that the sanctions, besides hindering access to external financing and international payments, had affected the normal performance of the national productive apparatus, resulting in a reduction in the supply of local goods and services.
"For the previous year and a half, the bank had been experiencing difficulties with the correspondent investment of high-level banks; from a total of 33 correspondent accounts, it currently had 14, which operated under a discretional compliance system, with many limitations that resulted in certain operational restrictions, mostly focused on public debt payments.
"The problems had worsened relating to the operation of correspondent banks, mainly Citibank, Commerzbank and Deutsche Bank, which currently handled only public debt payment.
"The situation was resulting in obstacles to the realization of public sector payments (i.e. foods and medicines). Demonstrably, unilateral coercive measures and financial blockades have aggravated the economic crisis and caused unemployment and emigration to Colombia, Brazil and Ecuador, among other countries (see"
koshergrl
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SWEDEN ISN'T A SOCIALIST STATE. When the left pretends they are, they are lying (or just ignorant)
Sweden has taken on a few social programs, just as the US has...but they took those on after becoming wildly rich, and they do not have government mandated wages nor does the government control means of production. The people control the means of production locally, and they trade on the open, competitive market.
"To the extent that the left wants to point to an example of successful socialism, not just generous welfare states, the Nordic countries are actually a poor case to cite. Regardless of the perception, in reality the Nordic countries practice mostly free market economics paired with high taxes exchanged for generous government entitlement programs."
Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist
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That's what she's advocating, moron.
koshergrl
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"...Swedish historian Johan Norberg says, "Sweden is not socialist."
"Norberg hosts a documentary called Sweden: Lessons for America?, in which he notes that in Sweden, "government doesn't own the means of production. To see that you have to go to Venezuela or Cuba or North Korea."
"John Stossel asks Norberg why so many Americans think Sweden is socialist. Norberg answers, "We did have a period in the 1970s and 1980s when we had something that resembled socialism: a big government that taxed and spent heavily."
"But big government led to problems. "Our economy was in crisis, inflation reached 10 percent, and for a brief period interest rates soared to 500 percent. At that point the Swedish population just said, 'Enough, we can't do this,'" Norberg says."
"We do have a bigger welfare state than the U.S. and higher taxes than the U.S. But in other areas, when it comes to free markets, when it comes to competition, when it comes to free trade, Sweden is actually more free market."
"Norberg also tells Stossel that Sweden's tax system may surprise Americans. "This is the dirty little secret....We don't take from the rich and give to the poor. We squeeze the poor, because rich people might leave."
Stossel: Sweden Is Not a Socialist Success
"Norberg hosts a documentary called Sweden: Lessons for America?, in which he notes that in Sweden, "government doesn't own the means of production. To see that you have to go to Venezuela or Cuba or North Korea."
"John Stossel asks Norberg why so many Americans think Sweden is socialist. Norberg answers, "We did have a period in the 1970s and 1980s when we had something that resembled socialism: a big government that taxed and spent heavily."
"But big government led to problems. "Our economy was in crisis, inflation reached 10 percent, and for a brief period interest rates soared to 500 percent. At that point the Swedish population just said, 'Enough, we can't do this,'" Norberg says."
"We do have a bigger welfare state than the U.S. and higher taxes than the U.S. But in other areas, when it comes to free markets, when it comes to competition, when it comes to free trade, Sweden is actually more free market."
"Norberg also tells Stossel that Sweden's tax system may surprise Americans. "This is the dirty little secret....We don't take from the rich and give to the poor. We squeeze the poor, because rich people might leave."
Stossel: Sweden Is Not a Socialist Success
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