Vatican confirms Pope secretly met Kim Davis at embassy.

[Synthaholic]

Why would he...she didn't violate the Constitution.

Amendment I. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...​

As a public official she is putting her religious beliefs above her official duties. That's a violation of the Constitutional separation of church and state.

Separation of church and state is NOT part of the Constitution.

She's not making a law, she is exercising her rights. She is saying that she personally, exercising her first amendment right of freedom of religion, cannot be forced by laws of the United States to violate her religious convictions.

That doesn't mean that she can't be county clerk...that would be religious discrimination.

So a county clerk could refuse to issue hunting licenses or concealed weapon licenses because they believe their religion forbids it?

 

[Synthaholic]

Saul of Tarsus

I've been to Tarsus.

 

[rdean]

Why would he...she didn't violate the Constitution.

Amendment I. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...​

As a public official she is putting her religious beliefs above her official duties. That's a violation of the Constitutional separation of church and state.

Apparently her religious beliefs say one woman and four husbands.

And Saul of Tarsus persecuted and killed Christians before his conversion and the forgiveness of his sins. You know him as Paul, who wrote many of the letters of the New Testament.

He tells you this himself...Acts 22:4.

So what's your point exactly. That she made mistakes before she was born again?

It's true. And now she wants to live in the Word.

Are you condemning her for being true to her religion?

Jesus said "Go and sin no more"

I have a word too. And it's a special word for someone who tries to force their word on someone who already has their own word.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

uh oh, don't tell Jeri.

Awesome!

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Catholics used to burn people like her.

No we didn't.

 

[Ravi]

LOL! Turns out Davis was lying!

 

[pwjohn]

The Pope will talk to anybody. He talked to Congress didn`t he?

Because the Pope's meeting with Davis was carried out in private, there was no endorsement, one way or the other.

The Pope's message to church leadership over here was to, stay out of it, and above all else don't say anything stupid.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Catholics used to burn people like her.

No we didn't.

It was Scientist like Galileo

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

CNN Exclusive: Pope held private meeting with same-sex couple in U.S.

- (CNN)The day before Pope Francis met anti-gay county clerk Kim Davis in Washington last week, he held a private meeting with a longtime friend from Argentina who has been in a same-sex relationship for 19 years. Yayo Grassi, an openly gay man, brough ... (CNN)

 

[Ravi]

CNN Exclusive: Pope held private meeting with same-sex couple in U.S.

- (CNN)The day before Pope Francis met anti-gay county clerk Kim Davis in Washington last week, he held a private meeting with a longtime friend from Argentina who has been in a same-sex relationship for 19 years. Yayo Grassi, an openly gay man, brough ... (CNN)

Uh oh, don't tell Jeri.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

So a county clerk could refuse to issue hunting licenses or concealed weapon licenses because they believe their religion forbids it?

Only if they are willing to die for their Faith at the hands of Christian Gun wing nuts.........

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

'Sense of regret' in Vatican over pope meeting with gay marriage opponent

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

From the Vatican's clarification issued Friday, here's Lombardi's full statement, which was released in both English and Italian:

"The brief meeting between Mrs. Kim Davis and Pope Francis at the Apostolic Nunciature in Washington, DC has continued to provoke comments and discussion. In order to contribute to an objective understanding of what transpired I am able to clarify the following points:

"Pope Francis met with several dozen persons who had been invited by the Nunciature to greet him as he prepared to leave Washington for New York City. Such brief greetings occur on all papal visits and are due to the Pope's characteristic kindness and availability. The only real audience granted by the Pope at the Nunciature was with one of his former students and his family.

"The Pope did not enter into the details of the situation of Mrs. Davis and his meeting with her should not be considered a form of support of her position in all of its particular and complex aspects."
Vatican Details Pope's Meeting With Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis

 

[Ravi]

From the Vatican's clarification issued Friday, here's Lombardi's full statement, which was released in both English and Italian:

"The brief meeting between Mrs. Kim Davis and Pope Francis at the Apostolic Nunciature in Washington, DC has continued to provoke comments and discussion. In order to contribute to an objective understanding of what transpired I am able to clarify the following points:

"Pope Francis met with several dozen persons who had been invited by the Nunciature to greet him as he prepared to leave Washington for New York City. Such brief greetings occur on all papal visits and are due to the Pope's characteristic kindness and availability. The only real audience granted by the Pope at the Nunciature was with one of his former students and his family.

"The Pope did not enter into the details of the situation of Mrs. Davis and his meeting with her should not be considered a form of support of her position in all of its particular and complex aspects."
Vatican Details Pope's Meeting With Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis

I loved this bit:

"We asked Rosica if he thought the Davis camp had exploited the meeting. And he replied, one could say that, adding that the whole affair could be misinterpreted and manipulated, and it risked overshadowing the very successful papal visit."

LOFL

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

"the group that included Davis was selected by the nunciature, the Vatican's diplomatic office in D.C."

The US Bishops are in general Right wing nuts...the Pope has sent some of them packing but they are still powerful...a cabal of these Right wingers set up the Pope by having him meet with a retrograde person like Kim Davis

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Pope Francis hung out privately with gay friends before accidentally shaking hands with Kim Davis
Yayo Grassi, who has known the pope for more than 50 years, brought his longtime partner and several friends to the Sept. 23 meeting at the Vatican Embassy.

 

[bodecea]

"the group that included Davis was selected by the nunciature, the Vatican's diplomatic office in D.C."

The US Bishops are in general Right wing nuts...the Pope has sent some of them packing but they are still powerful...a cabal of these Right wingers set up the Pope by having him meet with a retrograde person like Kim Davis

I'm surprised her deeply felt religious beliefs didn't keep her from visiting the Pope....don't those evangelicals think the Catholic Church is wrong?

 

[longknife]

Pope Francis & Kim Davis



The Vatican reached out to her. And Francis indicated his broad support for her bold stand against that insidious and “intrinsically disordered” counterfeit called “gay marriage.”



Read more facts @ The Facts About Pope’s Meeting With Kim Davis

 

[guno]

Pope Francis & Kim Davis



The Vatican reached out to her. And Francis indicated his broad support for her bold stand against that insidious and “intrinsically disordered” counterfeit called “gay marriage.”



Read more facts @ The Facts About Pope’s Meeting With Kim Davis

The pope didn't even know her or recognized her at his greeting , she was one of many. Why are you "people" liars for jesus

Vatican Details Pope's Meeting With Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis

 

[guno]

Pope Francis did not endorse Kim Davis during meeting in US, Vatican claims


In a rare statement addressing the claims on Friday, The Rev Federico Lombardi stressed their brief meeting should not be considered a show of support for her position, “in all of its particular and complex aspects”. He said Francis met with a number of people invited by the Nunciature to greet him.

“Such brief greetings occur on all papal visits and are due to the Pope’s characteristic kindness and availability," he said. "The only real audience granted by the Pope at the Nunciature was with one of his former students and his family."


Pope Francis did not endorse Kim Davis during meeting in US, Vatican claims