Vance say WW2 ended with negotiations

[Old Rocks]

Vance is no smarter than the President he serves. The only choice that Japan and Germany were given was unconditional surrender. The only choice that Russia should be given is to get all their soldiers out of Ukraine, and pay damages for their unjust war.

MSN

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Vance is no smarter than the President he serves. The only choice that Japan and Germany were given was unconditional surrender. The only choice that Russia should be given is to get all their soldiers out of Ukraine, and pay damages for their unjust war.

MSN

And a world War to make that happen.

 

[Rawley]

Vance is no smarter than the President he serves. The only choice that Japan and Germany were given was unconditional surrender. The only choice that Russia should be given is to get all their soldiers out of Ukraine, and pay damages for their unjust war.

MSN

Or else - what?

 

[Foxfyre]

Vance is no smarter than the President he serves. The only choice that Japan and Germany were given was unconditional surrender. The only choice that Russia should be given is to get all their soldiers out of Ukraine, and pay damages for their unjust war.

MSN

Germany was allowed a very minimal army in the Treaty of Versailles. Japan was allowed to keep their Emperor in the Potsdam Declaration.

Yes both countries were brought to unconditional surrender. But there definitely were negotiations contained within that process and the documents of peace signed by those countries and the Allies.

 

[struth]

Vance is no smarter than the President he serves. The only choice that Japan and Germany were given was unconditional surrender. The only choice that Russia should be given is to get all their soldiers out of Ukraine, and pay damages for their unjust war.

MSN

Why do yoh want a world war?

 

[theHawk]

The only choice that Russia should be given is to get all their soldiers out of Ukraine, and pay damages for their unjust war.

Who is going to make them pay?

You?

When are you going to Ukraine to join their army?

You boomer clowns are all the same, feel that you are entitled to dictate to other countries how they can act. You’ll use the lives of other people for your insane wars.
Boomers are probably the worst generation to ever happen to the US. The perfect example of that is Old Cucks.

 

[Old Rocks]

And a world War to make that happen.

Won't happen. If the US put it's foot down, Russia knows the combined might of NATO would roll right over their troops. We would have them out of Ukraine in less than two months.

 

[Old Rocks]

Or else - what?

We give Ukraine every weapon it needs to totally destroy the Russian military. And we and Europe impose destructive sanctions on Russia until their economy is in ruins. And if they bring in North Korean troops again, and put them in Ukraine, we put an equal number of US Marines opposite them. Fair is fair.

 

[struth]

We give Ukraine every weapon it needs to totally destroy the Russian military. And we and Europe impose destructive sanctions on Russia until their economy is in ruins. And if they bring in North Korean troops again, and put them in Ukraine, we put an equal number of US Marines opposite them. Fair is fair.

You want to give them nukes??

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Won't happen. If the US put it's foot down, Russia knows the combined might of NATO would roll right over their troops. We would have them out of Ukraine in less than two months.

You are thinking that Russia would just continue on with conventional warfare.

Putin knows that is exactly what would happen which is why he warned that interference would mean a nuclear first strike.

 

[Old Rocks]

Germany was allowed a minimal army in the Treaty of Versailles. Japan was allowed to keep their Emperor in the Potsdam Declaration.

Yes both countries were brought to unconditional surrender. But there definitely were negotiations contained within the documents of peace signed by those countries and the Allies.

Negotiations? We totally occupied both nations and removed their military. We also told them what kind of government they could have during and after our occupation. Yes, we allowed Japan to keep their Emperor in a ceremonial position, but with no real power. Much like Britian's King.

At the end of World War II, Japan made several concessions, primarily through the Japanese Instrument of Surrender, signed on September 2, 1945. Key concessions included:

• Respect for the Emperor: The emperor was to remain as the ceremonial head of state, but not to be tried as a war criminal.
  
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• Military Surrender: Japan formally surrendered unconditionally, ending its military operations.
  
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• Territorial Changes: Japan agreed to allow the Allies to occupy its territories, including the home islands, and to disarm its armed forces.
  
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• Peaceful Transition: The Japanese government was to facilitate a peaceful transition to a new government, with the emperor's role to be respected.
  
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  These concessions were part of the broader agreement to end the war and ensure a peaceful resolution.
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[shockedcanadian]

Germany was allowed a minimal army in the Treaty of Versailles. Japan was allowed to keep their Emperor in the Potsdam Declaration.

Yes both countries were brought to unconditional surrender. But there definitely were negotiations contained within the documents of peace signed by those countries and the Allies.

Yeah it's a bit nuanced.

A better way of describing it would be "it was negotiations under duress:.

 

[Donald H]

Vance is no smarter than the President he serves. The only choice that Japan and Germany were given was unconditional surrender. The only choice that Russia should be given is to get all their soldiers out of Ukraine, and pay damages for their unjust war.

MSN

Trump said that America (Biden) started the war against Russia.

It's too late for Trump to walk that back now, when there's evidence all the way back to 2014 that it's true.

If Germany had the bmb then there wouldn't have been unconditional surrender.

If Russia has the bomb .........................................

 

[Old Rocks]

You are thinking that Russia would just continue on with conventional warfare.

Putin knows that is exactly what would happen which is why he warned that interference would mean a nuclear first strike.

And if Russia did that, before the day was out, Putin's radioactive ashes would be drifting over the Urals. The population of Russia is concentrated in a much smaller area than that of the totality of the NATO nations. Just as in WW2 when both sides had poison gas, it was never used in battle. Russia knows the use of nuclear weapons would mean the obliteration of Russia.

 

[Old Rocks]

Trump said that America (Biden) started the war against Russia.

It's too late for Trump to walk that back now, when there's evidence all the way back to 2014 that it's true.

If Germany had the bmb then there wouldn't have been unconditional surrender.

If Russia has the bomb .........................................

Germany had poison gas during WW2, and did not use it because they knew we also had it. Russia has the bomb, and so do the NATO nations. Most of Russia's population is in a much smaller area than that of the NATO nations. Almost all of it is concentrated west of the Urals.

 

[Meister]

We give Ukraine every weapon it needs to totally destroy the Russian military. And we and Europe impose destructive sanctions on Russia until their economy is in ruins. And if they bring in North Korean troops again, and put them in Ukraine, we put an equal number of US Marines opposite them. Fair is fair.

While China just sits around? Sounds like a WW, comrade.
I always figured you were nuts, but I didn't think you expose yourself
like this.

 

[Old Rocks]

Trump said that America (Biden) started the war against Russia.

It's too late for Trump to walk that back now, when there's evidence all the way back to 2014 that it's true.

If Germany had the bmb then there wouldn't have been unconditional surrender.

If Russia has the bomb .........................................

Germany had poison gas during WW2, and did not use it because they knew we also had it. Russia has the bomb, and so do the NATO nations. Most of Russia's population is in a much smaller area than that of the NATO nations. Almost all of it is concentrated west of the Urals.

 

[Meathead]

Vance is no smarter than the President he serves. The only choice that Japan and Germany were given was unconditional surrender. The only choice that Russia should be given is to get all their soldiers out of Ukraine, and pay damages for their unjust war.

MSN

Japan's surrender was not unconditional. I'll give you a buck if you can figger out what the one condition was.

Ah, I see someone already told your ignorant ass, so no buck.

 

[Old Rocks]

While China just sits around? Sounds like a WW, comrade.
I always figured you were nuts, but I didn't think you expose yourself
like this.

A Sudetenland like capitulation would guarantee WW3. You deal with a bully with strength not weakness as you MAGAts do.

 

[Old Rocks]

While China just sits around? Sounds like a WW, comrade.
I always figured you were nuts, but I didn't think you expose yourself
like this.

China would do nothing but squawk a bit. They don't want to get involved in a war that would cut off their energy supplies. They are even more vulnerable than Russia.