"Utterly Insane"....Says Elon Musk About The "Big, Beautiful Bill" Gutting All Clean Energy Incentives. And He Is Correct.

[Thinker101]

The oil and gas companies already got their tax credit, simp.

They were paid billions of dollars by the Federal government to kill you quicker....MAGA sucker.

We already covered this...idiot.

 

[Correll]

Then I guess you also don't agree in subsidies for oil and gas companies.

What "subsidies" you talking about?

 

[leftwinger]

Windmills and solar kill Birds and require vast spaces of land needing constant maintenance and yes Oil changes and fluids into windmills you dumb twitt. Nothing is free. Ask the beheaded bald Eagles or fried seagulls lost over in Temecula.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Let me break it down for you, shit-for-brains.....

Oil disasters in the middle of the ******* ocean are far more disastrous to the environment than EV batteries.

The Environmental Impact of Battery Production for Electric Vehicles​

Mining these materials, however, has a high environmental cost, a factor that inevitably makes the EV manufacturing process more energy intensive than that of an ICE vehicle. The environmental impact of battery production comes from the toxic fumes released during the mining process and the water-intensive nature of the activity.

The Environmental Impact of Battery Production for EVs

While the principle of lower emissions behind electric vehicles is commendable, the environmental impact of battery production is still up for debate.

earth.org

 

[Thinker101]

It's worse than just the killing the renewables, its gonna kill people.

And almost nobody is talking about it.

Where the **** are the Democratic congresscritters?

Why haven't there been press releases/conferences and town halls and rallied and all that stuff?

The Democrat congresscritters are out having margaritas with an illegal.

 

[Oddball]

Windmills and solar kill Birds and require vast spaces of land needing constant maintenance and yes Oil changes and fluids into windmills you dumb twitt. Nothing is free. Ask the beheaded bald Eagles or fried seagulls lost over in Temecula.

And in their entire working lifespans, they never ever produce a single positive dollar of ROI, for their manufacture, transportation, erection, and maintenance.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Oh....so it's OK with you that Trump will continue giving billions of dollars in subsidies to oil and gas companies?

I thought MAGA was against this type of fraud?

If only you actually knew stuff, simp.

Oh....so it's OK with you that Trump will continue giving billions of dollars in subsidies to oil and gas companies?

What subsidies does the US give to oil and gas companies?
Show the spending or admit you're lying.

 

[leftwinger]

Defense rests your Honor. When they get it working let us know.****

LOS ANGELES (AP) — What was once the world’s largest solar power plant of its type appears headed for closure just 11 years after opening, under pressure from cheaper green energy sources. Meanwhile, environmentalists continue to blame the Mojave Desert plant for killing thousands of birds and tortoises.

The Ivanpah solar power plant formally opened in 2014 on roughly 5 square miles of federal land near the California-Nevada

 

[initforme]

Because it's a stupid waste of money.

Please explain why.

 

[Clipper]

It pains me to say this, but Elon Musk is 100% correct. This bill is a ******* disaster for the environment, our economy, and for our country.

Trump and the Republican Party are literally destroying this country.

This is one of the biggest reasons Senator Thom Tillis (R-NC) is going to vote against the bill -- it kills good-paying, green energy manufacturing jobs in North Carolina and throughout the country.

Trump wants to bring back 1970s factories from China with his stupid ******* tariffs making cheap ass shirts, shorts, toys, pots, and pans.

But good paying, high tech green energy factory jobs? Nah.....just give all those good green energy manufacturing jobs to China!!

Total insanity.


From the Washington Post. --

Congressional Republicans are poised to reverse course on U.S. energy policy by wiping out hundreds of billions of dollars in incentives for solar and wind projects as well as for consumers seeking to purchase everything from energy-saving appliances to electric cars.

The Senate’s tax bill, which cleared a key procedural hurdle Saturday, contains strict green energy cutbacks that disappointed lobbyists for solar, wind and battery companies, who hoped senators would temper some of the House’s most draconian cuts. It also imposes a new tax on existing wind and solar farms if they include materials from a foreign entity like China — a huge blow for the renewables industry, which incorporates many materials from China across its supply chain.

“They’re proposing an outright massacre with punishing new taxes on these industries,” Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Oregon) wrote in a statement on Saturday. He said Republicans added what amounts to a “death sentence” for green energy, with provisions added “in the middle of the night” Friday before voting started in the Senate.

The bill, which still must be passed by both the Senate and the House, would fulfill a major campaign pledge of President Donald Trump, who favors coal mining and oil drilling and has railed against federal green energy spending. With the reversal, executives and climate experts are expecting a sharp retreat in U.S. manufacturing and continued Chinese domination of the industry.

“The latest Senate draft bill will destroy millions of jobs in America and cause immense strategic harm to our country!” Tesla founder Elon Musk posted on X on Saturday, extending his split with the administration he served as leader of the U.S. DOGE Service. “Utterly insane and destructive. It gives handouts to industries of the past while severely damaging industries of the future.”

The new bill also eliminates consumer subsidies for rooftop solar, electric vehicles, heat pumps and other energy-efficient technologies. Homeowners will have just a few months (for electric vehicles) or until the end of the year (for heat pumps and rooftop solar) to take advantage of the credits before they expire.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2025/06/28/solar-green-energy-tax-bill-trump/

Trump wants to bring back the coal industry as he has slashed funding to treat & protect workers in mines who are being infected with & dying of Black Lung at young ages never seen before.

The guy is a total craven scumbag.

 

[initforme]

Trump wants to bring back the coal industry as he has slashed funding to treat & protect workers in mines who are being infected with & dying of Black Lung at young ages never seen before.

The guy is a total craven scumbag.

We can revive coal without sending anyone underground.

 

[Clipper]

We can revive coal without sending anyone underground.

Really? How & why aren't they doing it?

 

[initforme]

Really? How & why aren't they doing it?

Theres certain jobs that can be fully automated. No american need be risking their health for those puny wages. Increase the wages bigly for miners.

 

[initforme]

We need oil. Let them drill on land in the USA. Not forced out by your GOVT know-nothing wackjobs.

And keep every last drop of the oil on our shores for our citizens instead of shipping any away. If we need it then keep it. Like starving people getting g a plate of food and throwing it on the floor.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Ever seen a Chinese cobalt mine?...Do you have any idea of the dangerously toxic processes that go into refining the ore into the final product?

Do you understand how toxic to the environment that spent EV batteries are?

Just STFU, you deranged freak...You're hysterics are actually damaging to your side of the argument, which already can't stand much exposure to actual analytical thought.

Doesn't compare to Deepwater Horizon, MAGA shit-for-brains.

You lose....deranged MAGA freak.

 

[Stryder50]

I dont understand killing subsidies for homeowners investing in devices that help reduce their elecyric bills. Why?

Subsidies are tax revenues kicked back to those who didn't pay them, basically.
Why should I, for example, pay for YOU to get a reduction in cost of something YOU are buying for YOUR benefit, while I can't afford it or qualify for the "subsidies". ???

Subsidies are not a function of government per the Constitution.

If one can't afford something without a subsidy, than one can't afford that something, period !

Gawd, our schools need to teach basic economics and make a passing grade in such required to graduate.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Because it's a stupid waste of money.

But a "stupid waste of money" on subsidies for oil and gas companies that destroy the environment are acceptable....because Trump supports this.

Of course.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

If the devices are really "good", then they don't need subsidies.

Ironic that you say that....you're making a really good case for why Trump's tariffs are total ******* bullshit.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

It pains me to say this, but Elon Musk is 100% correct. This bill is a ******* disaster for the environment, our economy, and for our country.

Trump and the Republican Party are literally destroying this country.

This is one of the biggest reasons Senator Thom Tillis (R-NC) is going to vote against the bill -- it kills good-paying, green energy manufacturing jobs in North Carolina and throughout the country.

Trump wants to bring back 1970s factories from China with his stupid ******* tariffs making cheap ass shirts, shorts, toys, pots, and pans.

But good paying, high tech green energy factory jobs? Nah.....just give all those good green energy manufacturing jobs to China!!

Total insanity.


From the Washington Post. --

Congressional Republicans are poised to reverse course on U.S. energy policy by wiping out hundreds of billions of dollars in incentives for solar and wind projects as well as for consumers seeking to purchase everything from energy-saving appliances to electric cars.

The Senate’s tax bill, which cleared a key procedural hurdle Saturday, contains strict green energy cutbacks that disappointed lobbyists for solar, wind and battery companies, who hoped senators would temper some of the House’s most draconian cuts. It also imposes a new tax on existing wind and solar farms if they include materials from a foreign entity like China — a huge blow for the renewables industry, which incorporates many materials from China across its supply chain.

“They’re proposing an outright massacre with punishing new taxes on these industries,” Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Oregon) wrote in a statement on Saturday. He said Republicans added what amounts to a “death sentence” for green energy, with provisions added “in the middle of the night” Friday before voting started in the Senate.

The bill, which still must be passed by both the Senate and the House, would fulfill a major campaign pledge of President Donald Trump, who favors coal mining and oil drilling and has railed against federal green energy spending. With the reversal, executives and climate experts are expecting a sharp retreat in U.S. manufacturing and continued Chinese domination of the industry.

“The latest Senate draft bill will destroy millions of jobs in America and cause immense strategic harm to our country!” Tesla founder Elon Musk posted on X on Saturday, extending his split with the administration he served as leader of the U.S. DOGE Service. “Utterly insane and destructive. It gives handouts to industries of the past while severely damaging industries of the future.”

The new bill also eliminates consumer subsidies for rooftop solar, electric vehicles, heat pumps and other energy-efficient technologies. Homeowners will have just a few months (for electric vehicles) or until the end of the year (for heat pumps and rooftop solar) to take advantage of the credits before they expire.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2025/06/28/solar-green-energy-tax-bill-trump/

Cool story - did you make a post like this about Biden's budget and unparalleled spending?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I dont understand killing subsidies for homeowners investing in devices that help reduce their elecyric bills. Why?

Because we aren’t going to spend 10,000 tax dollars so you can save 20 dollars a month on your electric bill. You either do it because it makes sense for you to spend the 10 grand or **** off. We aren’t paying it for you.