"Utterly Insane"....Says Elon Musk About The "Big, Beautiful Bill" Gutting All Clean Energy Incentives. And He Is Correct.

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Oil seeps out of the ground. There is no disaster. The ocean eats that crap up. See the spills all over the ME or Mexico you dumb OX. It leaks out of the ground into the Ocean near Santa Barbara? No harm. Natural.

Yeah...more Deepwater Horizons is not a disaster.....but EV batteries are.

You are ******* certifiable and full of shit.

 

[Oddball]

What is a lie is you pretending these tax breaks for filthy rich fossil fuel companies are acceptable, but tax breaks for clean energy is not.

Well, nobody ever thought that those goalposts were going to move themselves!

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Oil companies do receive subsidies, in the form of tax breaks rather than direct financial support. These tax breaks lower production costs and are similar to incentives provided to other industries. And then there is the significant contributions of oil companies to the economy.

And the same subsidies should apply to clean energy....and you can't make a legitimate argument why they shouldn't.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Well, nobody ever thought that those goalposts were going to move themselves!

If you even knew what the **** you were talking about it would help, simp.

But you don't and you never do.

You can't make a legitimate argument why tax breaks for dirty energy are acceptable, but tax breaks for clean energy are not.

 

[leftwinger]

Yeah...more Deepwater Horizons is not a disaster.....but EV batteries are.

You are ******* certifiable and full of shit.

People eating shrimp out of gulf of America proves you wrong again tweeld-deep state. Oceans Eat it up. Gone baby gone.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

You have absolutely NFI about the environmental damage from obtaining the metals for the batteries, and the extreme hazmat hazard they pose for disposal and traffic accidents.

TANSTAFL, stupid ****.

Let me break it down for you, shit-for-brains.....

Oil disasters in the middle of the ******* ocean are far more disastrous to the environment than EV batteries.

 

[Correll]

I dont understand killing subsidies for homeowners investing in devices that help reduce their elecyric bills. Why?

If the devices are really "good", then they don't need subsidies.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

People eating shrimp out of gulf of America proves you wrong again tweeld-deep. Ocean loves oil. Eats it up. Gone baby gone. All over the earth. Show it?

No...your ******* deranged MAGA stupidity proves me right.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

If the devices are really "good", then they don't need subsidies.

Then I guess you also don't agree in subsidies for oil and gas companies.

 

[Oddball]

If you even knew what the **** you were talking about it would help, simp.

But you don't and you never do.

You can't make a legitimate argument why tax breaks for dirty energy are acceptable, but tax breaks for clean energy are not.

Yes, I know what I'm talking about.

And I'm also not so mentally imbalanced and emotionally incontinent, that I can make distinctions between in-kind cash subsidies and tax breaks that are available to everyone.

Speaking of in-kind cash subsidies, you do know that those idiotic raptor killing windmills that never gross dollar one, receive hundreds of billions of them, right?

 

[Oddball]

Let me break it down for you, shit-for-brains.....

Oil disasters in the middle of the ******* ocean are far more disastrous to the environment than EV batteries.

I was right....You really have NFI.

 

[Thinker101]

And the same subsidies should apply to clean energy....and you can't make a legitimate argument why they shouldn't.

So if I go out to buy a car this afternoon (a gas powered car), I can expect a tax credit?

 

[leftwinger]

States give-take subsidies to improve economic situations. Dumb Political hacks like AOC & you think they know best. Newsflaah, giving Intel $10B to build a fab if they sign up for more DEI is not in out favor. So stop it all.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

I was right....You really have NFI.

Just make your case, shit-for-brains.

Explain how EV batteries are a bigger disaster than ******* Deepwater Horizon.

Dishonest MAGA ****.

 

[ColonelAngus]

I keep reminding you guys.

Musk is a Nazi.

Remember DOGE AND USAID?

If Musk says it sucks, it must be amazing because he is a moron and a NAZI!!!

 

[Crepitus]

It pains me to say this, but Elon Musk is 100% correct. This bill is a ******* disaster for the environment, our economy, and for our country.

Trump and the Republican Party are literally destroying this country.

This is one of the biggest reasons Senator Thom Tillis (R-NC) is going to vote against the bill -- it kills good-paying, green energy manufacturing jobs in North Carolina and throughout the country.

Trump wants to bring back 1970s factories from China with his stupid ******* tariffs making cheap ass shirts, shorts, toys, pots, and pans.

But good paying, high tech green energy factory jobs? Nah.....just give all those good green energy manufacturing jobs to China!!

Total insanity.


From the Washington Post. --

Congressional Republicans are poised to reverse course on U.S. energy policy by wiping out hundreds of billions of dollars in incentives for solar and wind projects as well as for consumers seeking to purchase everything from energy-saving appliances to electric cars.

The Senate’s tax bill, which cleared a key procedural hurdle Saturday, contains strict green energy cutbacks that disappointed lobbyists for solar, wind and battery companies, who hoped senators would temper some of the House’s most draconian cuts. It also imposes a new tax on existing wind and solar farms if they include materials from a foreign entity like China — a huge blow for the renewables industry, which incorporates many materials from China across its supply chain.

“They’re proposing an outright massacre with punishing new taxes on these industries,” Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Oregon) wrote in a statement on Saturday. He said Republicans added what amounts to a “death sentence” for green energy, with provisions added “in the middle of the night” Friday before voting started in the Senate.

The bill, which still must be passed by both the Senate and the House, would fulfill a major campaign pledge of President Donald Trump, who favors coal mining and oil drilling and has railed against federal green energy spending. With the reversal, executives and climate experts are expecting a sharp retreat in U.S. manufacturing and continued Chinese domination of the industry.

“The latest Senate draft bill will destroy millions of jobs in America and cause immense strategic harm to our country!” Tesla founder Elon Musk posted on X on Saturday, extending his split with the administration he served as leader of the U.S. DOGE Service. “Utterly insane and destructive. It gives handouts to industries of the past while severely damaging industries of the future.”

The new bill also eliminates consumer subsidies for rooftop solar, electric vehicles, heat pumps and other energy-efficient technologies. Homeowners will have just a few months (for electric vehicles) or until the end of the year (for heat pumps and rooftop solar) to take advantage of the credits before they expire.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2025/06/28/solar-green-energy-tax-bill-trump/

It's worse than just the killing the renewables, its gonna kill people.

And almost nobody is talking about it.

Where the **** are the Democratic congresscritters?

Why haven't there been press releases/conferences and town halls and rallied and all that stuff?

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

So if I go out to buy a car this afternoon (a gas powered car), I can expect a tax credit?

The oil and gas companies already got their tax credit, simp.

They were paid billions of dollars by the Federal government to kill you quicker....MAGA sucker.

 

[Oddball]

Just make your case, shit-for-brains.

Explain how EV batteries are a bigger disaster than ******* Deepwater Horizon.

Dishonest MAGA ****.

Ever seen a Chinese cobalt mine?...Do you have any idea of the dangerously toxic processes that go into refining the ore into the final product?

Do you understand how toxic to the environment that spent EV batteries are?

Just STFU, you deranged freak...You're hysterics are actually damaging to your side of the argument, which already can't stand much exposure to actual analytical thought.

 

[Crepitus]

I keep reminding you guys.

Musk is a Nazi.

Remember DOGE AND USAID?

If Musk says it sucks, it must be amazing because he is a moron and a NAZI!!!

He is a nazi and he's only railing against this for personal benefit but that doesn't mean he hasn't accidentally stumbled onto the correct path for a minute.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I dont understand killing subsidies for homeowners investing in devices that help reduce their elecyric bills. Why?

Because it's a stupid waste of money.