"Utterly Insane"....Says Elon Musk About The "Big, Beautiful Bill" Gutting All Clean Energy Incentives. And He Is Correct.

[EMH]

Doing business environmentally friendly adds zero costs. We need more watchdogs.

Then surely there is NO NEED to SUBSIDIZE EVs....

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

CO2 FRAUD "climate activist" cannot answer basic climate questions, how typical...

COWARD!!!

It's not all about climate change, simp.

Maybe it's time for you to go to Plan B in your MAGA "Climate Change Hoax" Dumb **** Playbook.

 

[Mashmont]

Doing business environmentally friendly adds zero costs. We need more watchdogs.

That's untrue. Every leftwing act involves big money. Notice leftwingers will never say. "Just recycle. Don't fill up our landfills". There's no money in that.

 

[EMH]

It's not all about climate change, simp.

Maybe it's time for you to go to Plan B in your MAGA "Climate Change" Dumb **** Playbook.

The CO2 FRAUD is misdiagnosing real problems like the wildfires, and blocking real solutions like desalination.

It is CO2 FRAUD that is harming the actual environment. YOU and CO2 FRAUD supporters are the problem and the most anti environmental demographic...

 

[EMH]

Because it's not really "clean" you ignorant stupid pole Cat?

It is also true that the EV manufacturing involves both harm to the environment and a treasonous bias towards "rare Earths" that is enriching and empowering China, Taliban etc...

 

[leftwinger]

Doing business environmentally friendly adds zero costs. We need more watchdogs.

Nothing friendly about 25 million solar panels or EV batteries piled up in landfills you dumb OX. Wasted even more energy to mine raw materials and manufacture your part time WOKE BS you dumb Oxyen are extremely ridiculous.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

I'm against the government (ie taxpayer) funding fraud.

Oh....so it's OK with you that Trump will continue giving billions of dollars in subsidies to oil and gas companies?

I thought MAGA was against this type of fraud?

If only you actually knew stuff, simp.

 

[Mashmont]

More MAGA bullshit.


Too bad you can't explain how.

Because most people can't afford the EV trash. If all cars are required to be that way, then people can't have cars. Which, by the way, is of no concern to the left, as they cater to large city leftist folks who often don't have cars. Cars are conservatives in red flyover country.

 

[Mashmont]

Oh....so it's OK with you that Trump will continue giving billions of dollars in subsidies to oil and gas companies?

I thought MAGA was against this type of fraud?

If only you actually knew stuff, simp.

For the 1000th time, keeping more of your own money is NOT a subsidy.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Because most people can't afford the EV trash. If all cars are required to be that way, then people can't have cars. Which, by the way, is of no concern to the left, as they cater to large city leftist folks who often don't have cars. Cars are conservatives in red flyover country.

Except there is no such provision for all cars to be EV by 2035, lightweight....just something you pulled out of your MAGA ass.

 

[initforme]

That's untrue. Every leftwing act involves big money. Notice leftwingers will never say. "Just recycle. Don't fill up our landfills". There's no money in that.

I will agree our landfills are so huge. I.agineif every american spent half of what they do now. Landfills shrink, economy booms. We could as a nation. Promote less consumption to spur economic growth.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

For the 1000th time, keeping more of your own money is NOT a subsidy.

Paying oil and gas companies in subsidies is not "keeping your own money", simp.

 

[Mashmont]

Except there is no such provision for all cars to be EV by 2035, lightweight....just something you pulled out of your MAGA ass.

Per wiki AI

In 2035, California and several other states are aiming for all new cars sold to be zero-emission vehicles (ZEVs), meaning they will be either electric vehicles (EVs) or hydrogen fuel cell vehicles. This is part of a broader effort to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and combat climate change.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

• California's Mandate:
  California's Advanced Clean Cars II regulations require that all new passenger cars, trucks, and SUVs sold in the state be zero-emission by 2035.
  
  
• Phased Approach:
  This transition is not immediate. California is phasing in the ZEV requirement, starting with 35% of new 2026 model cars being zero-emission, increasing to 68% in 2030, and reaching 100% in 2035.
  
  
• Other States Following Suit:
  Several other states have adopted California's regulations or are considering similar measures, meaning they are also working towards a similar 2035 goal for new car sales.

You may apologize at any time.

 

[initforme]

Nothing friendly about 25 million solar panels or EV batteries piled up in landfills you dumb OX. Wasted even more energy to mine raw materials and manufacture your part time WOKE BS you dumb Oxyen are extremely ridiculous.

What is wrong with a house owner installing some solar panels? Why are you so against that? Good gawd must be a big oil exec.

 

[Oddball]

"Clean energy incentives" = tax breaks that benefit Musk's CCP benefactors.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Per wiki AI

In 2035, California and several other states are aiming for all new cars sold to be zero-emission vehicles (ZEVs), meaning they will be either electric vehicles (EVs) or hydrogen fuel cell vehicles. This is part of a broader effort to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and combat climate change.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

• California's Mandate:
  California's Advanced Clean Cars II regulations require that all new passenger cars, trucks, and SUVs sold in the state be zero-emission by 2035.
  
  
• Phased Approach:
  This transition is not immediate. California is phasing in the ZEV requirement, starting with 35% of new 2026 model cars being zero-emission, increasing to 68% in 2030, and reaching 100% in 2035.
  
  
• Other States Following Suit:
  Several other states have adopted California's regulations or are considering similar measures, meaning they are also working towards a similar 2035 goal for new car sales.

You may apologize at any time.

States' rights, simp. Which you MAGAs claim to love.

There is no nationwide mandate. Period.

 

[leftwinger]

Oh....so it's OK with you that Trump will continue giving billions of dollars in subsidies to oil and gas companies?

I thought MAGA was against this type of fraud?

If only you actually knew stuff, simp.

You make em' drill 1000 miles out in 200' water uh yeah, incentvise. Less than one month Ukraine funding you dumb rat. We need oil, not Ukraine. Or Politicians paid vacations or Obama entourage parties amd travel.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

"Clean energy incentives" = tax breaks that benefit Musk's CCP benefactors.

Awww, poor little MAGA...he no longer likes Elon Musk.

 

[Oddball]

What is wrong with a house owner installing some solar panels? Why are you so against that? Good gawd must be a big oil exec.

If you're saving so much money on energy, then you don't need to be paid to install them, right?

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

You make em' drill 1000 miles out in 200' water uh yeah, incentvise. Less than one month Ukraine funding you dumb rat. We need oil, not Ukraine. Or Politicians paid vacations or Obama entourage parties amd travel.

And why the **** do you even want them doing that, dumb ass?

You want more Deepwater Horizons???