"Utterly Insane"....Says Elon Musk About The "Big, Beautiful Bill" Gutting All Clean Energy Incentives. And He Is Correct.

[Oddball]

Awww, poor little MAGA...he no longer likes Elon Musk.

Never trusted him much in the first place, goofus.

 

[Thinker101]

Oh....so it's OK with you that Trump will continue giving billions of dollars in subsidies to oil and gas companies?

I thought MAGA was against this type of fraud?

If only you actually knew stuff, simp.

As did Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump 1, and Biden.

 

[Mashmont]

States' rights, simp. Which you MAGAs claim to love.

There is no nationwide mandate. Period.

Oh. Did you just change it to 'nationwide'?

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

As did Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump 1, and Biden.

And? So why do you favor hand outs for dirty oil and gas, but not clean energy?

What a hypocrite.

 

[Oddball]

As did Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump 1, and Biden.

The "subsidies" to petrochemical energy companies are the same tax breaks that every other business has available to them.....The shitlib "subsidies" blabbering point is a total lie.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Oh. Did you just change it to 'nationwide'?

We are talking about a nationwide bill, are we not?

 

[leftwinger]

And why the **** do you even want them doing that, dumb ass?

You want more Deepwater Horizons???

We need oil. Let them drill on land in the USA. Not forced out by your GOVT know-nothing wackjobs.

 

[initforme]

If you're saving so much money on energy, then you don't need to be paid to install them, right?

Nothing wrong with a simple tax deduction for installing a panel or 2. Where's the harm? You like tax breaks no? We give business startup tax breaks. Of course that mo ey simy gets pocketed by the execs. Why not the average paycheck to paycheck person?

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

The "subsidies" to petrochemical energy companies are the same tax breaks that every other business has available to them.....The shitlib "subsidies" blabbering point is a total lie.

What is a lie is you pretending these tax breaks for filthy rich fossil fuel companies are acceptable, but tax breaks for clean energy is not.

 

[initforme]

The "subsidies" to petrochemical energy companies are the same tax breaks that every other business has available to them.....The shitlib "subsidies" blabbering point is a total lie.

Perhaps trim back those tax breaks to big business?

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

We need oil. Let them drill on land in the USA. Not forced out by your GOVT know-nothing wackjobs.

We need clean energy, simp.

You're whining about EV batteries, but more Deepwater Horizon disasters???? Nah, that's acceptable!!

You are breathtakingly stupid and full of shit.

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

It pains me to say this, but Elon Musk is 100% correct. This bill is a ******* disaster for the environment, our economy, and for our country.

Trump and the Republican Party are literally destroying this country.

This is one of the biggest reasons Senator Thom Tillis (R-NC) is going to vote against the bill -- it kills good-paying, green energy manufacturing jobs in North Carolina and throughout the country.

Trump wants to bring back 1970s factories from China with his stupid ******* tariffs making cheap ass shirts, shorts, toys, pots, and pans.

But good paying, high tech green energy factory jobs? Nah.....just give all those good green energy manufacturing jobs to China!!

Total insanity.


From the Washington Post. --

Congressional Republicans are poised to reverse course on U.S. energy policy by wiping out hundreds of billions of dollars in incentives for solar and wind projects as well as for consumers seeking to purchase everything from energy-saving appliances to electric cars.

The Senate’s tax bill, which cleared a key procedural hurdle Saturday, contains strict green energy cutbacks that disappointed lobbyists for solar, wind and battery companies, who hoped senators would temper some of the House’s most draconian cuts. It also imposes a new tax on existing wind and solar farms if they include materials from a foreign entity like China — a huge blow for the renewables industry, which incorporates many materials from China across its supply chain.

“They’re proposing an outright massacre with punishing new taxes on these industries,” Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Oregon) wrote in a statement on Saturday. He said Republicans added what amounts to a “death sentence” for green energy, with provisions added “in the middle of the night” Friday before voting started in the Senate.

The bill, which still must be passed by both the Senate and the House, would fulfill a major campaign pledge of President Donald Trump, who favors coal mining and oil drilling and has railed against federal green energy spending. With the reversal, executives and climate experts are expecting a sharp retreat in U.S. manufacturing and continued Chinese domination of the industry.

“The latest Senate draft bill will destroy millions of jobs in America and cause immense strategic harm to our country!” Tesla founder Elon Musk posted on X on Saturday, extending his split with the administration he served as leader of the U.S. DOGE Service. “Utterly insane and destructive. It gives handouts to industries of the past while severely damaging industries of the future.”

The new bill also eliminates consumer subsidies for rooftop solar, electric vehicles, heat pumps and other energy-efficient technologies. Homeowners will have just a few months (for electric vehicles) or until the end of the year (for heat pumps and rooftop solar) to take advantage of the credits before they expire.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2025/06/28/solar-green-energy-tax-bill-trump/

MAGA

 

[leftwinger]

We need clean energy, simp.

You're whining about EV batteries, but more Deepwater Horizon disasters???? Nah, that's acceptable!!

You are breathtakingly stupid and full of shit.

Oil seeps out of the ground. There is no disaster. The ocean eats that crap up. See the spills all over the ME or Mexico you dumb OX. It leaks out of the ground into the Ocean near Santa Barbara? No harm. Natural.

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

Go ahead and make a fool of yourself and show the internet you are a retard.

Deny climate change

123GO

 

[OODA_Loop]

What is a lie is you pretending these tax breaks for filthy rich fossil fuel companies are acceptable, but tax breaks for clean energy is not.

As of now fossil fuels are the most energy-dense, widely available source.

You cant harness energy without some waste and impact.

 

[Rambunctious]

It pains me to say this, but Elon Musk is 100% correct. This bill is a ******* disaster for the environment, our economy, and for our country.

Trump and the Republican Party are literally destroying this country.

This is one of the biggest reasons Senator Thom Tillis (R-NC) is going to vote against the bill -- it kills good-paying, green energy manufacturing jobs in North Carolina and throughout the country.

Trump wants to bring back 1970s factories from China with his stupid ******* tariffs making cheap ass shirts, shorts, toys, pots, and pans.

But good paying, high tech green energy factory jobs? Nah.....just give all those good green energy manufacturing jobs to China!!

Total insanity.


From the Washington Post. --

Congressional Republicans are poised to reverse course on U.S. energy policy by wiping out hundreds of billions of dollars in incentives for solar and wind projects as well as for consumers seeking to purchase everything from energy-saving appliances to electric cars.

The Senate’s tax bill, which cleared a key procedural hurdle Saturday, contains strict green energy cutbacks that disappointed lobbyists for solar, wind and battery companies, who hoped senators would temper some of the House’s most draconian cuts. It also imposes a new tax on existing wind and solar farms if they include materials from a foreign entity like China — a huge blow for the renewables industry, which incorporates many materials from China across its supply chain.

“They’re proposing an outright massacre with punishing new taxes on these industries,” Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Oregon) wrote in a statement on Saturday. He said Republicans added what amounts to a “death sentence” for green energy, with provisions added “in the middle of the night” Friday before voting started in the Senate.

The bill, which still must be passed by both the Senate and the House, would fulfill a major campaign pledge of President Donald Trump, who favors coal mining and oil drilling and has railed against federal green energy spending. With the reversal, executives and climate experts are expecting a sharp retreat in U.S. manufacturing and continued Chinese domination of the industry.

“The latest Senate draft bill will destroy millions of jobs in America and cause immense strategic harm to our country!” Tesla founder Elon Musk posted on X on Saturday, extending his split with the administration he served as leader of the U.S. DOGE Service. “Utterly insane and destructive. It gives handouts to industries of the past while severely damaging industries of the future.”

The new bill also eliminates consumer subsidies for rooftop solar, electric vehicles, heat pumps and other energy-efficient technologies. Homeowners will have just a few months (for electric vehicles) or until the end of the year (for heat pumps and rooftop solar) to take advantage of the credits before they expire.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2025/06/28/solar-green-energy-tax-bill-trump/

You are the intended recipient of his new message and stated positions... now he hopes you will buy a Tesla...

 

[Oddball]

Perhaps trim back those tax breaks to big business?

Perhaps...But that's not really the point here, is it?

 

[Rambunctious]

Thanks for DOGE Elon....

 

[Oddball]

We need clean energy, simp.

You're whining about EV batteries, but more Deepwater Horizon disasters???? Nah, that's acceptable!!

You are breathtakingly stupid and full of shit.

You have absolutely NFI about the environmental damage from obtaining the metals for the batteries, and the extreme hazmat hazard they pose for disposal and traffic accidents.

TANSTAFL, stupid ****.

 

[Thinker101]

And? So why do you favor hand outs for dirty oil and gas, but not clean energy?

What a hypocrite.

Oil companies do receive subsidies, in the form of tax breaks rather than direct financial support. These tax breaks lower production costs and are similar to incentives provided to other industries. And then there is the significant contributions of oil companies to the economy.