"Utterly Insane"....Says Elon Musk About The "Big, Beautiful Bill" Gutting All Clean Energy Incentives. And He Is Correct.

[Toddsterpatriot]

Whatever the **** it is. I am just saying in 100 years we may have the tech to send garbage into the sun. Who knows?

Yeah, we could have lots of tech to do a lot of stupid, expensive, wasteful stuff.

Doesn't mean it makes any sense to do them.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Thanks. But we should also have a government who gets it and encourages it. We don't.

If it makes sense for you, why do you need help or encouragement?

Open your checkbook and buy it, don't look for government dollars.

 

[InstantOn]

If true the good for TX. They have wind out in the middle of nowhere west TX. Not my business to fund it, provide costly annual maintenance (oil changes) or account for killing birds.

There are groups that are tracking birds' movements in order to place turbines where they lessen killing birds. Worst than wind turbines are high rise buildings. One in Chicago killed 1000 birds. They finally found a way to discourage birds by putting small dots on the windows that don't interview with the view.

 

[Modern Messiah]

So then how should I power my house?

Whichever way you choose.
Your the one who decided to post that one or two solar panels wouldn't hurt anything.
How many solar panels do we have in The USA alone?
It's probably more than one or two.
Do solar panels pose a harmful threat to the environment.
YEP!
Especially when they have ran their course.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

To me, corporate America, every other country.

And it just got passed on TO YOU! I mean the price increases.

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I guess that means you just moved out of the US.

Any opinions about this, folks?





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[Modern Messiah]

What about it? In your own words.

That there are still some recycling issues to solve to meet FUTURE demand? Yea and? They will be solved just like we solve other problems.

You are posting as if battery recycling is some sort of unheard of, monumental problem to overcome. It isn't.

You obviously didn't read the articles I posted.
DO ev batteries pose a harmful threat to the environment?
Do solar panels pose a harmful threat to the environment?
I'm not anti ev and I'm not anti solar panel.
But they do create harmful affects for the environment.
Along with wind turbines as well.
Especially when it comes time to dispose them.

 

[sealybobo]

You obviously didn't read the articles I posted.
DO ev batteries pose a harmful threat to the environment?
Do solar panels pose a harmful threat to the environment?
I'm not anti ev and I'm not anti solar panel.
But they do create harmful affects for the environment.
Along with wind turbines as well.
Especially when it comes time to dispose them.

I think it's funny when Trump pretends to care about birds who get killed by windmills. We're destroying the oceans with pollution and that could have really negative effects on humans but Trump's worried about birds getting killed by windmills.

It's why I know your concerns about EV's, solar panels and windmills is bullshit.

Not that you are wrong but it's not like you care this much about what coal and oil are doing to the environment. Funny you see it when it's green technology but don't mind it when it's oil gas and coal.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

So you can't answer the questions.
Then you respond with meaningless scare tactic platitudes.

It's not "scare tactics"....that is literally what your hopelessly stupid MAGA sucker ass is voting for.

You love Trump so much that you are willing to shorten your lifespan over it. Sad, but true.

 

[Modern Messiah]

I think it's funny when Trump pretends to care about birds who get killed by windmills. We're destroying the oceans with pollution and that could have really negative effects on humans but Trump's worried about birds getting killed by windmills.

It's why I know your concerns about EV's, solar panels and windmills is bullshit.

Not that you are wrong but it's not like you care this much about what coal and oil are doing to the environment. Funny you see it when it's green technology but don't mind it when it's oil gas and coal.

Minus your emotional mindless claptrap the fact still stands.
ev batteries are extremely negatively detrimental to the environment.
Which means you must not care about the environment.
Solar panels are extremely detrimental to the environment.
You must not care about the environment.
Turbines pose a major harmful impact on the environment.
So I guess you don't care about the environment.
Stop your finger pointing.
It seems your dumb ideas are just as detrimental as any others.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

So are solar panals and wind turbines but you're side is against those things. And batteries. You hate EV's except for when you loved Tesler for a second.



Everything's Computer!

I love Tesler! LOL

I can like something and not be in favor of me buying it for you.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

It's not "scare tactics"....that is literally what your hopelessly stupid MAGA sucker ass is voting for.

You love Trump so much that you are willing to shorten your lifespan over it. Sad, but true.

Modern energy of gas, oil, coal and nuclear has extended our lives and comfort to what it is today. How the **** is it killing us now?

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Modern energy of gas, oil, coal and nuclear has extended our lives and comfort to what it is today. How the **** is it killing us now?

Breathing dirty air takes years off people's lives.

If we went fully green, everyone would live longer.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Breathing dirty air takes years off people's lives.

If we went fully green, everyone would live longer.

Our fossil fuel emissions are very clean today.

On the other hand, your commie buddies in China know how to pollute the air.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Our fossil fuel emissions are very clean today.

On the other hand, your commie buddies in China know how to pollute the air.

At least they are embracing green energy and the future....unlike you hopeless MAGA cavemen.

But at least Trump will get you back your worthless 1970s factories from China with his tariffs in about 10 years...where MAGA dipshits like you can make cheap ass shirts, shoes, toys, pots, and pans for $10 per hour.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Breathing dirty air takes years off people's lives.

If we went fully green, everyone would live longer.

No we wouldn’t. We’d be back to 30 year life expectancy. We wouldn’t have the majority of our medical equipment. Green energy can’t even produce enough energy to replace itself. It takes more energy to build a windmill than it will produce over its lifespan. So no. If we went full green energy today we wouldn’t be living in the ******* 1800’s within a year.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

No we wouldn’t. We’d be back to 30 year life expectancy. We wouldn’t have the majority of our medical equipment. Green energy can’t even produce enough energy to replace itself. It takes more energy to build a windmill than it will produce over its lifespan. So no. If we went full green energy today we wouldn’t be living in the ******* 1800’s within a year.

Such total, abysmal, shameless lies.

But that's what MAGA Nazis do...create their own reality.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

At least they are embracing green energy and the future....unlike you hopeless MAGA cavemen.

But at least Trump will get you back your worthless 1970s factories from China with his tariffs in about 10 years...where MAGA dipshits like you can make cheap ass shirts, shoes, toys, pots, and pans for $10 per hour.

China built the largest hydroelectric dam in the world and is building more coal plants in a month than the rest of the world does in five years. You’re ******* retarded if you think China is the future of green energy.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

China built the largest hydroelectric dam in the world and is building more coal plants in a month than the rest of the world does in five years. You’re ******* retarded if you think China is the future of green energy.

And they are also embracing green energy....unlike you hopeless MAGA dumb *****.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Such total, abysmal, shameless lies.

But that's what MAGA Nazis do...create their own reality.

Speaking of Nazi’s how has Germany done with their green energy programs?

Do you ever research things or do you just post ******* feelings and unicorn dreams?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

At least they are embracing green energy and the future....unlike you hopeless MAGA cavemen.

But at least Trump will get you back your worthless 1970s factories from China with his tariffs in about 10 years...where MAGA dipshits like you can make cheap ass shirts, shoes, toys, pots, and pans for $10 per hour.

I can see their (cough-cough) green future from here.

Nope, that was a cloud of sulfur dioxide. Never mind.