USMB conservatives cite the NYT as source for Trump-Tower wiretap claim. Three fact-checkers debunk

[Ted Frazier]

If you frequent this board you may have read more than one Trump supporter claim that the Trump Tower wiretap claim made by Donald Trump is true because the New York Times said so in an article.
As pointed out by liberals in this board, the independent fact-checking website Politifact just noted that USMB conservatives are full of it. Link

The Washington Post fact-checked this BS too: About that N.Y. Times wiretapping piece: Trump has it wrong

Also, factcheck.org weighs in: Examining Trump’s Wiretap Claim

• A New York Times story on steps taken by the Obama administration that would allow the National Security Agency “to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies before applying privacy protections.” This story, which ran Jan. 12, has nothing to do with the alleged wiretapping of Trump Tower, but rather how intelligence material is shared.

I politely request that right-wingers in this board stop making stuff up. Thanks.

Guess they missed the NYT story on wiretapping on Jan 20.

You missed it too, since you provide no link.

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

/---- In a totally unrelated topic: BREAKING -- NSA DOCUMENTS PROVE SURVEILLANCE OF DONALD TRUMP & HIS FAMILY
Bombshell discovery shows targets of NSA's "Project Dragnet"
Jerome Corsi | Infowars.com - MARCH 20, 2017

As your buddy Jimmy the right-winger noted above, both Trump and Hillary both lied (Wiretap, sniper), so Jimmy is hereby summoned to remind you that Alex Jones is not a source and you're spreading BS.

Where did I say Trump lied?

Please quote it cupcake?

You said Trump's wiretap was "like" Hillary's sniper fire lie. Stop playing dumb about what you typed today.

Please quote what I said not what you wish I said or your BH interpretation.

Same as fake news - fake posts

Stop playing dumb. We all know we are referring to the to my thread.

The documented Hillary lie - that she dragged Chelsea into - while Slick Willie was banging Monica

 

[Ted Frazier]

As your buddy Jimmy the right-winger noted above, both Trump and Hillary both lied (Wiretap, sniper), so Jimmy is hereby summoned to remind you that Alex Jones is not a source and you're spreading BS.

Where did I say Trump lied?

Please quote it cupcake?

You said Trump's wiretap was "like" Hillary's sniper fire lie. Stop playing dumb about what you typed today.

Please quote what I said not what you wish I said or your BH interpretation.

Same as fake news - fake posts

Stop playing dumb. We all know we are referring to the to my thread.

The documented Hillary lie - that she dragged Chelsea into - while Slick Willie was banging Monica

That's fine as long as you don't pretend you didn't admit that Trump lied.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

You didn't mention the Trump Tower, Trump or Obama once in your comment. Trump said "my phones" were wiretapped in the Trump Tower. Stop dancing around his comment. Was it true or not?

At this point, I think nit picking semantics is kind of silly and childish.

Agree, but without nit picking semantics 90% of the communications on this board would cease to exist.

 

[edthecynic]

Jerome Corsi

Jerome "Fake News" Corsi

 

[edthecynic]

The NYT and others reported accurately about FISA warrants

Or 3. YOU are lying about the NY Times reporting about FISA warrants!!
Hint, the NY Times NEVER reported anything about FISA warrants!!!

 

[OKTexas]

If you frequent this board you may have read more than one Trump supporter claim that the Trump Tower wiretap claim made by Donald Trump is true because the New York Times said so in an article.
As pointed out by liberals in this board, the independent fact-checking website Politifact just noted that USMB conservatives are full of it. Link

The Washington Post fact-checked this BS too: About that N.Y. Times wiretapping piece: Trump has it wrong

Also, factcheck.org weighs in: Examining Trump’s Wiretap Claim

• A New York Times story on steps taken by the Obama administration that would allow the National Security Agency “to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies before applying privacy protections.” This story, which ran Jan. 12, has nothing to do with the alleged wiretapping of Trump Tower, but rather how intelligence material is shared.

I politely request that right-wingers in this board stop making stuff up. Thanks.

Guess they missed the NYT story on wiretapping on Jan 20.

You missed it too, since you provide no link.

The link and the photo of the Jan 20 front page have been posted on this board as recently as today, so feel free to look it up or go piss up a rope, I really don't give a crap which you choose.

 

[AntonToo]

Either one of two things happened here.

A.) The NYT and others reported accurately about FISA warrants, wiretapped communications and surveillance of Trump and associates in connection with Russia. Confirming Trump's allegation and turning up absolutely no evidence.

OR...

B.) The NYT and others have been reporting "Fake News" the past 5 months in collusion with the Democrat Party in an attempt to disparage and impugn the integrity of President Trump.

So you can take your pick of which one is true. It really doesn't matter at this point. It is also possible that BOTH are true to some degree but it's impossible for neither of these to be true. The ink is on the paper, the hard copies exist. You can spin and obfuscate, change topics and stall... you can't escape facts.

C) You are an idiot that doesn't understand that Trump didn't claim his people being investigated by FBI, he claimed OBAMA ORDERED WIRETAPPING OF HIS PHONES.

Claim now understood to be completely baseless fabricated bullshit by Embarrassment-in-charge, who's compaign members are by the way being actively investigated for coluding with Russians

 

[edthecynic]

The link and the photo of the Jan 20 front page have been posted on this board as recently as today, so feel free to look it up or go piss up a rope, I really don't give a crap which you choose.

Do you mean the article that said it was Manafort's BUSINESS CONTACTS in UKRAINE and RUSSIA who were monitored?
Why yes, yes you do.

 

[Boss]

The NYT and others reported accurately about FISA warrants

Or 3. YOU are lying about the NY Times reporting about FISA warrants!!
Hint, the NY Times NEVER reported anything about FISA warrants!!!

I assume if there was "wiretapped data" there must've been a FISA warrant.

The article speaks of a request made in June but denied and another request made later that was granted. Again, maybe all of this is Fake News and the NY Times is complicit in helping the Democrats slander the president. You guys need to make up your minds who is going under the bus on this... Obama and his gang for misusing the national intelligence apparatus to spy on political enemies or the NY Times colluding with the DNC to destroy a president. It's gotta be one or the other, makes no difference to me.

 

[OKTexas]

The link and the photo of the Jan 20 front page have been posted on this board as recently as today, so feel free to look it up or go piss up a rope, I really don't give a crap which you choose.

Do you mean the article that said it was Manafort's BUSINESS CONTACTS in UKRAINE and RUSSIA who were monitored?
Why yes, yes you do.

And the headline on that article was???????????

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

Where did I say Trump lied?

Please quote it cupcake?

You said Trump's wiretap was "like" Hillary's sniper fire lie. Stop playing dumb about what you typed today.

Please quote what I said not what you wish I said or your BH interpretation.

Same as fake news - fake posts

Stop playing dumb. We all know we are referring to the to my thread.

The documented Hillary lie - that she dragged Chelsea into - while Slick Willie was banging Monica

That's fine as long as you don't pretend you didn't admit that Trump lied.

I ain't paying tinkerbell.

Just like Slick willie will not touch Hillary

 

[edthecynic]

I assume if there was "wiretapped data" there must've been a FISA warrant.
The article speaks of a request made in June but denied and another request made later that was granted.

LIAR!
Quote the exact words FROM the NY Times article, you worthless lying POS!

 

[edthecynic]

The link and the photo of the Jan 20 front page have been posted on this board as recently as today, so feel free to look it up or go piss up a rope, I really don't give a crap which you choose.

Do you mean the article that said it was Manafort's BUSINESS CONTACTS in UKRAINE and RUSSIA who were monitored?
Why yes, yes you do.

And the headline on that article was???????????

NOT anything about Trump Tower or FISA warrants!!!

 

[OKTexas]

The link and the photo of the Jan 20 front page have been posted on this board as recently as today, so feel free to look it up or go piss up a rope, I really don't give a crap which you choose.

Do you mean the article that said it was Manafort's BUSINESS CONTACTS in UKRAINE and RUSSIA who were monitored?
Why yes, yes you do.

And the headline on that article was???????????

NOT anything about Trump Tower or FISA warrants!!!

Nope, just WIRETAPS.

 

[edthecynic]

The link and the photo of the Jan 20 front page have been posted on this board as recently as today, so feel free to look it up or go piss up a rope, I really don't give a crap which you choose.

Do you mean the article that said it was Manafort's BUSINESS CONTACTS in UKRAINE and RUSSIA who were monitored?
Why yes, yes you do.

And the headline on that article was???????????

NOT anything about Trump Tower or FISA warrants!!!

Nope, just WIRETAPS.

In RUSSIA and Ukraine!

 

[bravoactual]

that Mr. Obama wiretapped him.

der GroppenFuhrer is a pathological liar.

 

[Rambunctious]

There is nothing anyone can say to convince me Obama didn't and isn't trying to undermine the Trump administration. Via wiretap or whatever he can use he will do it.

 

[OKTexas]

The link and the photo of the Jan 20 front page have been posted on this board as recently as today, so feel free to look it up or go piss up a rope, I really don't give a crap which you choose.

Do you mean the article that said it was Manafort's BUSINESS CONTACTS in UKRAINE and RUSSIA who were monitored?
Why yes, yes you do.

And the headline on that article was???????????

NOT anything about Trump Tower or FISA warrants!!!

Nope, just WIRETAPS.

In RUSSIA and Ukraine!

Really, the Russian ambassador was in the US.

 

[Boss]

Ed... I get the feeling you're going to get the chance to defend the allegations. This whole enchilada isn't going away anytime soon and some serious questions remain to be answered. You and I don't know those answers yet, but by God, we're going to know them when all is said and done.

You better HOPE the previous administration is as innocent as you think.