USA: A COUNTRY DIVIDED

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The world is waiting to see how much of the new US President’s rhetoric will be turned into action. There is concern in Catholic social justice circles about his stance on immigration, health care and climate change. Here, Tablet writers consider the prospects for the American economy, relations with Russia, and Donald Trump’s pledge to tighten the abortion laws. Firstly, how is the Church squaring up to the challenges ahead?



The Tablet

The nation has been divided since its inception ...

They're called STATES

 

[Iceweasel]

The pope has no influence on the Catholic church? You play games like all religious people.

Look, even the Middle School students I teach know the difference between an individual in an agency voicing an opinion--and the agency itself taking action. You gave the former. I asked for the latter. It's not that difficult to distinguish between the two. Young teenagers pick up on the difference immediately. But if you have nothing further, then no problem. Moving on...

You brainwash kids if you play those kinds of games. Being an arrogant asshole doesn't improve your phony position.

Still nothing to put forth and still not understanding the difference between a personal opinion and an agency's policy? We're done here then.

You keep repeating your stupidity thinking it looks good somehow. How many times are "we done here"? The pope is more than just an opinion in the Catholic church, you goddamn retard!

 

[Iceweasel]

I'm even going to read that. I have a life. Religion and socialism have similarities, they are based on beliefs and all facts must fit those beliefs somehow. It may take some twisting and turning or a mysteries of god thing but they are ideologies that assume some greater good will prevail.

Yes, its called--GODS KINGDOM it is mankinds only remaining hope--yet the world lives in such darkness the bible clearly shows--the majority will be mislead into putting trust and worship kind of into the beast.

Sorry but I'll stick with the real world.

Mortals have little choice--Either one lives now for entrance into Gods kingdom, or they lose.

Thanks for the threat. I was a Christian for 20 plus years so know the drill.

God set life or death before all mankind-- both are everlasting. Deuteronomy 30:19-- there is no eternal punishment. It was symbolic.
So with our free will( by actions mostly) we all choose. One can live now to do Gods will( Matt 7:21), or trade it for 70-90 years of self. Entrance into Gods kingdom has a gazillion x more value than this lifetime.

You sir have mightily offend Zoltar and will suffer tremendously for it. Your soul will be beaten without mercy for one billion years, minimum!

 

[hobelim]

Yes, its called--GODS KINGDOM it is mankinds only remaining hope--yet the world lives in such darkness the bible clearly shows--the majority will be mislead into putting trust and worship kind of into the beast.

Sorry but I'll stick with the real world.

Mortals have little choice--Either one lives now for entrance into Gods kingdom, or they lose.

Thanks for the threat. I was a Christian for 20 plus years so know the drill.

God set life or death before all mankind-- both are everlasting. Deuteronomy 30:19-- there is no eternal punishment. It was symbolic.
So with our free will( by actions mostly) we all choose. One can live now to do Gods will( Matt 7:21), or trade it for 70-90 years of self. Entrance into Gods kingdom has a gazillion x more value than this lifetime.

You sir have mightily offend Zoltar and will suffer tremendously for it. Your soul will be beaten without mercy for one billion years, minimum!

Not so fast. He still has one chance remaining to redeem himself.

He could always narfle the Garthok ...

 

[Meriweather]

The pope is more than just an opinion in the Catholic church

But not on this issue...at least not at this time. Why is that so hard for you to understand? You melt down very easily. When we first started this, you used a broad brush of the Catholic Church interfering with something. I wondered which one you were referencing--because there are more than a few. You seem to be arguing that a personal opinion is interfering. That is all you have? (By the way, I find this kind of amusing, so by all means, keep it up.)

 

[Iceweasel]

Sorry but I'll stick with the real world.

Mortals have little choice--Either one lives now for entrance into Gods kingdom, or they lose.

Thanks for the threat. I was a Christian for 20 plus years so know the drill.

God set life or death before all mankind-- both are everlasting. Deuteronomy 30:19-- there is no eternal punishment. It was symbolic.
So with our free will( by actions mostly) we all choose. One can live now to do Gods will( Matt 7:21), or trade it for 70-90 years of self. Entrance into Gods kingdom has a gazillion x more value than this lifetime.

You sir have mightily offend Zoltar and will suffer tremendously for it. Your soul will be beaten without mercy for one billion years, minimum!

Not so fast. He still has one chance remaining to redeem himself.

He could always narfle the Garthok ...

That option is always on the table but risky as all hell.

The pope is more than just an opinion in the Catholic church

But not on this issue...at least not at this time. Why is that so hard for you to understand? You melt down very easily. When we first started this, you used a broad brush of the Catholic Church interfering with something. I wondered which one you were referencing--because there are more than a few. You seem to be arguing that a personal opinion is interfering. That is all you have? (By the way, I find this kind of amusing, so by all means, keep it up.)

You're a sinveling little cvnt. The meltdown is all yours. You make idiotic statements that you can't back up. The pope very much is more than just a person in the church, moron. You can't bully me like you bully your young students. What a disservice you do to them. They will need to be deprogrammed.

 

[Votto]

Dunno, has the Pope continued to say that people who build walls go to hell?

Yep, those that build walls to keep people out are EVIL.
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Trump built that wall.

Didn't you know?

 

[ding]

Mortals have little choice--Either one lives now for entrance into Gods kingdom, or they lose.

Thanks for the threat. I was a Christian for 20 plus years so know the drill.

God set life or death before all mankind-- both are everlasting. Deuteronomy 30:19-- there is no eternal punishment. It was symbolic.
So with our free will( by actions mostly) we all choose. One can live now to do Gods will( Matt 7:21), or trade it for 70-90 years of self. Entrance into Gods kingdom has a gazillion x more value than this lifetime.

You sir have mightily offend Zoltar and will suffer tremendously for it. Your soul will be beaten without mercy for one billion years, minimum!

Not so fast. He still has one chance remaining to redeem himself.

He could always narfle the Garthok ...

That option is always on the table but risky as all hell.

The pope is more than just an opinion in the Catholic church

But not on this issue...at least not at this time. Why is that so hard for you to understand? You melt down very easily. When we first started this, you used a broad brush of the Catholic Church interfering with something. I wondered which one you were referencing--because there are more than a few. You seem to be arguing that a personal opinion is interfering. That is all you have? (By the way, I find this kind of amusing, so by all means, keep it up.)

You're a sinveling little cvnt. The meltdown is all yours. You make idiotic statements that you can't back up. The pope very much is more than just a person in the church, moron. You can't bully me like you bully your young students. What a disservice you do to them. They will need to be deprogrammed.

A pope's duties

The broad job description for the role of pope is the head of the Catholic Church and the Bishop of Rome. The pope is also the head of the sovereign city-state, Vatican City.

What this means on a daily basis is that the pope, in this case Pope Francis I, has duties both political and religious. The pope meets with heads of state and maintains diplomatic relationships with more than 100 nations. He conducts liturgies, appoints new bishops and travels.

He doesn't, however, work like a corporate CEO, dipping into the local and daily workings of regional parishes, Briel said.

"He's looking at a very broad overview of the universal church, the church as a whole," he said. [Saint or Slacker? Test Your Religious Knowledge]

A typical day starts early, with a private mass attended by household staff, Briel said. After breakfast, the morning might be spent writing epistles, or formal communications, as well as other works of religious scholarship. Much of the rest of the day is likely to be spent in meetings with bishops and political leaders from around the world.

The pope also ministers directly to the faithful, greeting pilgrims at General Audiences, which usually attract between several thousand and tens of thousands of people. Briel attended Benedict's last General Audience in Rome in February, which drew 200,000, he said.

Around important holidays, such as Easter, the pope delivers major liturgies in St. Peter's Cathedral or elsewhere in Rome. He also travels around the world, conducting masses for audiences that fill football stadiums.

What Does the Pope Do, Anyway?

 

[Meriweather]

The meltdown is all yours. You make idiotic statements that you can't back up. The pope very much is more than just a person in the church, moron. You can't bully me like you bully your young students. What a disservice you do to them. They will need to be deprogrammed.

I get it. You are not in favor of civil discourse--which I still find amusing today. Why not try a little civil discourse? Amusement over childish temper tantrums quickly changes to boredom--and I'm almost there.

Of course the Pope is a person in the Church, and of course his duties are greater than any other person's in the Church. But we are not talking about a Catholic but "Catholics". Remember you said it was the other way around that Catholics were pouncing on politicians. Catholics, as mentioned before, are a diverse group. You picked one Catholic with a personal opinion--that some politicians even agree with. I asked whether or not that one person was or was not allowed his personal opinion--as not all Catholics agree with the Pope's views on climate change. Other Catholics speak to politicians as well.

To return to my original question: How are Catholics (as a whole) pouncing on politicians? Catholics, as a whole, are not pouncing on politicians over climate issues. Just like everyone else--including politicians--Catholics have varying opinions.

 

[HaShev]

Dunno, has the Pope continued to say that people who build walls go to hell?

But that's a double negative, since it is his Roman founders who destroyed the walls of the Holy temple allowing themselves to infiltrate what was holy and claim themselves the new ownership.
And they say their hell is in living with their paradise in death(reverse reality).
IN OTHER WORDS they were & are still on the racketeering business, whereby the hell in living is through their inflictions that for a 15% fee they will protect you from.
They are protecting you from themselves like the Mob does or that hood rat who extorts money to watch & protect your car, basically paying to protect it from him scratching it if you don't. POPE IS IN THE PROTECTION RACKETEERING BUSINESS and is the same as that punk kid threatening your car under the guise of protection.

 

[shimon]

Well Now that some kid in the Divided States has figured out how to seperate the "10 per cent" of salt water from the 90 per cent pure water in salt water rather cheaply I think it is only fair that those who want so desperately to hand over their tainted "Water" to their corrupted religious sources should just throw back that money and resources back into the sea(of Rome) after all it is not doing any good and it will leave the other 90 per cent of pure water for the rest of us to enjoy freely....... Should be interesting how Rome tries to weasle their way into this action...Wink