US Supreme Court : Agrees with the President : MS13 gangster Kilmar Abrego Garcia must stay in El Salvador's SuperMax

[80zephyr]

Habeas corpus
Translation

Rule of law

The left doesn't care about the law. They just want the illegals to stay.

 

[Edgetho]

Every major "victory" that the left has gotten in my lifetime came through activist judges going around the will of the people.

Not to mention 'inventing laws' out of whole cloth. Like that "right to privacy" bullshit SCOTUS used in one of its worst decisions, Roe v. Wade.

I don't mind the decision as much as I minde inventing shit that isn't there in order to make a decision that's popular.

The Judiciary is out of control and it needs to stop.

Did you see where they got slapped thrice yesterday? One was on the idiot Boasberg, another was on Trump firing employees and -- I forgot the other one. You're younger than I am, fill it in. I think it was on deportations in general. Pretty sure it was about him using the old Alien Enemies Act, that it wasn't subject to Judicial Review.

 

[Billiejeens]

Due Process - Translation: Lets flood the US with illegals, then rely on the benevolence of the American people to slow the process of deporting them down to the point of where trying to do it is useless.

That is what the lunatics on the left want -
All of their positions at the current time are out of the normal level of insanity and have reached peak insanity

 

[kyzr]

Which sets up the Catch-22.
Plaintiff's must file a Writ of Habeas Corpus in the location where they are detained, which means the individual appears in court and gets to hear the charged and evidence against them.
But now the individuals are not in the country and can't appear before the Judge to plead their habeas case. Therefore Habeas Corpus is not an avenue open to them to attempt to right a wrong. WW

If an illegal sneaks thru the wall, gets caught by CBP, gets a hearing date 10-years out, and then gets put back on the other side of the wall as per current Law, i.e. Remain in Mexico, that is still legal, correct?

 

[berg80]

Due Process - Translation: Lets flood the US with illegals, then rely on the benevolence of the American people to slow the process of deporting them down to the point of where trying to do it is useless.

Hmmmmmm. Frustrated with the pace of judicial proceedings? Join the club. trump used delay by lawfare until he could no longer be held accountable for his crimes.

 

[Billiejeens]

Its done before they are deported. What I don't get are the cases where they are adjudicated but remain in the US after.

Easy peasy
The biden administration ignored the law.

 

[80zephyr]

Hmmmmmm. Frustrated with the pace of judicial proceedings? Join the club. trump used delay by lawfare until he could no longer be held accountable for his crimes.

This was the plan of the left from the beginning. And it will cost us billions to enforce the immigration laws because of it. The leftists do not care.

 

[Billiejeens]

Not to mention 'inventing laws' out of whole cloth. Like that "right to privacy" bullshit SCOTUS used in one of its worst decisions, Roe v. Wade.

I don't mind the decision as much as I minde inventing shit that isn't there in order to make a decision that's popular.

The Judiciary is out of control and it needs to stop.

Did you see where they got slapped thrice yesterday? One was on the idiot Boasberg, another was on Trump firing employees and -- I forgot the other one. You're younger than I am, fill it in. I think it was on deportations in general. Pretty sure it was about him using the old Alien Enemies Act, that it wasn't subject to Judicial Review.

RVW

was not popular at the time.
If it was popular Congress would have passed a law.

 

[berg80]

This was the plan of the left from the beginning.

This (due process) was the plan of the Founders from the beginning.

 

[Billiejeens]

Hmmmmmm. Frustrated with the pace of judicial proceedings? Join the club. trump used delay by lawfare until he could no longer be held accountable for his crimes.

The fact that there were no crimes, kind of played a factor.

 

[M14 Shooter]

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/07/nx-s1-5345601/supreme-court-alien-enemies-act

The U.S. Supreme Court delivered a major victory to President Trump on Monday, allowing the administration to continue deporting what it says are Venezuelan gang members. The vote was 5-to-4, with conservative Justice Amy Coney Barrett joining the three liberals in dissent.

In an unsigned opinion Monday night, the court's conservative majority didn't rule on that question. But it gave the Trump administration all it needed to continue with the deportations, with one caveat. It said that from here on in, the alleged gang members need to be given notice of deportation, and the opportunity to contest the deportation.

The court, however, said there is only one way to do that. And that is by challenging their detentions on a case-by-case basis.

The initial lawsuit challenging the order, from the American Civil Liberties Union and Democracy Forward, had sought to block use of the Alien Enemies Act through a "class action," in which a handful of people can sue on behalf of all other similarly situated individuals.

Sounds like a win for the Trump administration.
Oh wait - NPR agrees:

The order marks a win for the Trump administration, even if temporary, and it could well be a harbinger of things to come as the administration continues to clash with federal courts and assert the executive's dominance over the other two branches of government.

 

[M14 Shooter]

And I support rule of law.

 

[excalibur]

There is an order issued by a Judge not to have him deported...

He seemed Asylum in the US... Under Human rights law, US is where he can stay...

This is what the Judge knew as we'll...

It is against a number of agreement US has agreed on to force an Asylum Seeker to another country...

He has an existing Order of Removal, except to El Salvador. That was the administrative error, sending him to El Salvador, but he is removable to other countries.

He applied for asylum and was denied in 2019.

 

[excalibur]

You said the immigration judge adjudicated that he was a member of the MS-13 gang.

I provided the decision of the only immigration judge he's been before and the judge did no such thing.

Then deflect to a current filing from the DOJ which again provide no creditable evidence of being part of MS-13, merely unsubstantiated claims.

[DISCLAIMER: I have no problem with Garcia being deported to a country other than El Salvador - as the immigration judge ordered - as there was a removal order issued in 2019 that the Trump Administration didn't take action on. If he is a criminal? Charge him, send him to trial, convict him, send him to prison, then deport him. If he's not a criminal? He gets proper Due Process review and then deported.]

WW

He was adjudicated a member of MS-13.

The filing from DoJ quotes the immigration judge ruling.

 

[Edgetho]

RVW

was not popular at the time.
If it was popular Congress would have passed a law.

It was popular and abortion was very divisive. Stil is.

They couldn't pass a law back then because Republicans would have filibustered it. That was back when the filibuster was in full force.

SCOTUS took the decision away from Congress, the States and The People.

I am neither for nor against abortion but what SCOTUS did was unprecented and lead to all the Lawfare we're seeing today. When dimocrap scum can't their way in elections, in Congress or Legislatures, they run to Activist Judges.

I am, however, very much against Activist Judges. They are the bane of our Republic

 

[excalibur]

That not a ruling. It's the DOJ claiming what was in a ruling.

Yes, it is, That is how it works in immigration court.

 

[struth]

Hmmmmmm. Frustrated with the pace of judicial proceedings? Join the club. trump used delay by lawfare until he could no longer be held accountable for his crimes.

These proceedings won't take long at all. a HC petition doesn't stop the deportation process. All the Court ruled was you can do this, but give them notice they are subject to the deportation, and give them a chance to file a petition. Once they are deported the petition is moot, since they aren't in the custody of the Govt anymore. Moreover, less then 1 percent are ever granted, and fewer then that successful.

 

[BluesLegend]

Every time one of these filthy POS ILLEGALS sneaks into MY country it cost me money. KEEP OUT!!

 

[dudmuck]

Every time one of these filthy POS ILLEGALS sneaks into MY country it cost me money. KEEP OUT!!

 

[BluesLegend]

Mexicans you say, from Mexico, who's home country is Mexico, which is not U.S. soil.