US Military's Knee on the Throat of the World

[Indeependent]

They can sail their warships within 12 miles of our coast too, oh wait, they aren't a blue water navy.

Or perhaps they don't want to rule the world?

"JULY 3, 2020
The US Military Has Its Knee on the Throat of the World
by ELLEN TAYLOR "

"The manner in which we treat other nations contains many of the same elements as the racism and violence which the demonstrations on our streets are denouncing.

"The US military has its knee on the throat of the world.

"We must vanquish this shape-shifting, Orwellian spectre with which our overlords ensnare us, with their lies of “they hate our freedoms”. Defund the Pentagon!

"It would save millions of lives."

Only one country has maimed, murdered, and displaced millions of innocent civilians on the opposite side of the planet from its homeland over the past 75 years, and it's not China or Russia, is it?

Then they should stop asking for us to intervene.

 

[Mac-7]

So it would have been better if North Korea conquered South Korea?

There was no "North" or "South" Korea in 1945 when US troops prevented free elections below the 38th parallel:

United States Army Military Government in Korea - Wikipedia

"The short-lived People's Republic of Korea had been established in August, in consultation with Japanese authorities, and quickly spread throughout the country.[5]

"The U.S. Military Government outlawed it in the South shortly after their arrival."

Had those elections been allowed to take place, this is one possible winner:

Lyuh Woon-hyung - Wikipedia

"Lyuh Woon-hyung or Yo Un-hyung[a] (May 25, 1886 – July 19, 1947) was a Korean politician who argued that Korean independence was essential to world peace, and a reunification activist who struggled for the independent reunification of Korea following its national division in 1945.

"His pen-name was Mongyang (몽양; 夢陽), the Hanja for 'dream' and 'the sun.'

"He is rare among politicians in modern Korean history in that he is revered in both South and North Korea.[citation needed]"

What you are giving us is called Revisionist History

lib professors have been pushing the idea that the Korean War was all America’s fault for 40-50 years

and the have managed to persuade a lot of gullible young college students

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Where were you when your side (and many from my side) were beating the war drums against Putin?

Putin came of age politically speaking during the 90s, when the US determined the outcome of a Russian presidential election

Neither side is likely to stop interfering in the other side's elections, but with Putin in office until 2036, it will be difficult to reduce tensions.

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"There has indeed been lots of speculation that dirty tricks were used that year to push Yeltsin past the post.

"The powerful oligarchs in Yeltsin's circle have said on the record before that their goal was to get Yeltsin a second term by any means necessary. By 1996, Russia's transition to capitalism had impoverished millions of people.

"The economic reforms known as "shock therapy" had caused hyperinflation, and Yeltsin had gotten himself entangled in a highly unpopular war with the separatist region of Chechnya.

"Meanwhile, the Communist Party candidate, Gennadi Zyuganov, was promising the people a return to the stability of the U.S.S.R.

"In the first round of voting, the two were neck and neck, with Yeltsin getting 35% against 32% for Zyuganov. Yeltsin narrowly won in a runoff vote with 53.8%."

You want to defund the military now, even though President Trump hasn’t started any new wars, as he promised

He has increased "defense" spending to post WWII record levels, and his drone strikes are killing more civilians than Obama's:

Trump wants to cut $54 billion in spending from domestic agencies — that's enough to wipe several of them out

You still crying yourself to sleep because Reagan won the Cold War?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

that is how the US has gained its "free lunch" by establishing the dollar's as international currency:

Waah....nobody wants to hold Commie currency. DURR

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I don't think Russia and China can be viewed together. Russia seems to be about Putin's Russia reacquiring its territories of the Czarist era. That includes Ukriaine. Geogia and the Baltics. Putin's already reacquired Belarus. At the heart, I just don't think Russian's view personal autonomy as being as central to the reason of being as Westerners do.

I think it's guaranteed rich Russians have little regard for personal autonomy, but many Russians remember how rich Americans looted their country in the 1990s:

Dollar Recycling | Michael Hudson

"The ideal the United States would like China to do is to let U.S. investors do to it what they did to Russia after 1991.

"They told Russia that it needed to back its domestic Ruble issues by holding an equivalent amount of U.S. dollars, in the form of private dollar loans or dollar-denominated U.S. Treasury securities.

"This involved borrowing dollars from the United States instead of simply issuing domestic rubles.

"Russia paid 100 percent interest a year to U.S. investors in 1993-1994.

"Yet Russia did not need foreign exchange to pay domestic ruble-wages or to pay for domestic goods and services.

"But neoliberal advisors convinced Russia to back all Ruble money or domestic currency credit it created by backing it with U.S. dollars. Obtaining these dollars involved paying enormous interest to the United States for this needless backing.

"There was no need for such backing.

"At the end of this road the United States convinced Russia to sell off its raw materials, its nickel mines, its electric utilities, its oil reserves, and ultimately tried to pry Crimea away from Russia."

"Russia paid 100 percent interest a year to U.S. investors in 1993-1994.

Baloney.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

"Thousands of US troops marched across Europe this spring to perform military exercises along Russia’s borders.

That's awful!!!

Why would anyone in Europe want protection from the Russian military?

 

[harmonica]

you are a dumbfuck...learn some history

How many military bases does China currently garrison outside its homeland?

doesn't matter--irrelevant
..military bases does not = aggression

 

[Correll]

So, you hoped for it, but were you willing to support any efforts made in that direction?

Answer: no, not if it meant giving support to Trump.

Trump's support for Russia had everything to do with concealing decades of money laundering and absolutely nothing to do with peace; once he is out of office the evidence of his crimes will be there for anyone who cares to look. Will you?

Nice conspiracy stories. You choose to run with that, instead of supporting a push for Peace. Got it.


If Obama had made moves to deescalate with Russia, I would have supported that, while still opposing him on other issues.


You libs can't do that. People are Good or Evul to you. You are like children.

 

[Correll]

1. Not an answer to my question, where were you when they were beating the War Drums?

I haven't supported any US war of aggression during my entire lifetime (73 years) Have you?

Got it. You agreed with Trump, but you could not admit it. Not even now, after the fact.


Partisan ideology is more important to you that War or Peace.

 

[Correll]

3. If you want to cut military spending, we need to cut commitments. Leave Nato. End our alliance with South Korean. And/or Japan.

All of which sound good to me.

So, those liberals that attacked Trump for undermining NATO, you told them that? Or could you not stand apart from the lefty dogpiling?


Which is more important to you? Ideological partisanship or Peace?

 

[Correll]

Richard Nixon was the one that really desegregated Southern Schools. You give him credit for that, or is this just something you pretend to care about?

Give Dick credit for NOT breaking a law?
Sure, why not?

Big difference between "not breaking a law" and "successfully and aggressively enforcing it".


Seems actual desegregation is less important to you, than partisanship.



Good to know.

 

[Correll]

So, where were you when Bill Clinton was expanding NATO?

I wasn't paying attention.
What about you?

The same. It was not reported very much and I did not realize how badly it was being done.

Would you have spoken out against it if you noticed? So far, partisanship seems more important to you than any actual policy.

 

[georgephillip]

Lol are you really sucking Kim Il Sung's dick?

Kim Il Sung would not have been on the ballot in 1945; his rule in North Korea was another unintended consequence of US mistakes in Korea.

 

[martybegan]

So it would have been better if North Korea conquered South Korea?

There was no "North" or "South" Korea in 1945 when US troops prevented free elections below the 38th parallel:

United States Army Military Government in Korea - Wikipedia

"The short-lived People's Republic of Korea had been established in August, in consultation with Japanese authorities, and quickly spread throughout the country.[5]

"The U.S. Military Government outlawed it in the South shortly after their arrival."

Had those elections been allowed to take place, this is one possible winner:

Lyuh Woon-hyung - Wikipedia

"Lyuh Woon-hyung or Yo Un-hyung[a] (May 25, 1886 – July 19, 1947) was a Korean politician who argued that Korean independence was essential to world peace, and a reunification activist who struggled for the independent reunification of Korea following its national division in 1945.

"His pen-name was Mongyang (몽양; 夢陽), the Hanja for 'dream' and 'the sun.'

"He is rare among politicians in modern Korean history in that he is revered in both South and North Korea.[citation needed]"

LOL, like elections above the parallel would have been "free"

Fuck off you commie asshole.

 

[martybegan]

Lol are you really sucking Kim Il Sung's dick?

Kim Il Sung would not have been on the ballot in 1945; his rule in North Korea was another unintended consequence of US mistakes in Korea.

Like he needed a ballot to take power.

What a miserable communist apologist you are.

 

[georgephillip]

Not really

she is writing for a national newspaper so the bar for her is higher

On USMB her opinion is at least as credible as yours or mine.

 

[georgephillip]

North Korea is threatening South Korea and Japan as well as US territories such as Guam

of course N Korea is just an attack dog on a leash for the real threat - red china

North Korea can barely feed its military in its homeland; they represent zero threat outside the Korean peninsula. Both North Korea and "Red" China are creations of US capitalism; the former was bombed into the stone age with for-profit bombs 60 years ago. US investors acquired income from that war crime, but even those profits paled in comparison to the earnings from bringing state capitalism to a single party, authoritarian state.

 

[Mac-7]

Not really

she is writing for a national newspaper so the bar for her is higher

On USMB her opinion is at least as credible as yours or mine.

Except that she is not here to defend her opinion and is carries zero value with me

 

[Mac-7]

North Korea can barely feed its military in its homeland; they represent zero threat outside the Korean peninsula.

They have nukes that can reach japan and maybe hawaii

but if you are conceding that NKs master - red china - is the greater threat then then I agree with that

 

[georgephillip]

How many do you think?

Fewer than the US

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