US Military's Knee on the Throat of the World

[georgephillip]

The Soviets were never going to allow open elections in the area they controlled, just like Eastern Europe.

When did those Soviet elections in Eastern Europe occur, before of after US forces prevented free elections in Korea and Greece?

US Interfered in Elections of at Least 85 Countries Worldwide Since 1945 - Global Research

 

[martybegan]

The Soviets were never going to allow open elections in the area they controlled, just like Eastern Europe.

When did those Soviet elections in Eastern Europe occur, before of after US forces prevented free elections in Korea and Greece?

US Interfered in Elections of at Least 85 Countries Worldwide Since 1945 - Global Research

Don't dodge the question, you commie **********.

 

[georgephillip]

The Monroe Doctrine is from the early 19th century. The United States moved away from it at the start of the 20th century over 100 years ago.

That would've come as a big surprise to Woodrow Wilson:

Monroe Doctrine - Wikipedia

"Scholars such as Neil Smith have written that Woodrow Wilson effectively proposed a 'Global Monroe Doctrine' expanding US supremacy over the entire world.[citation needed]

"Some analysts[who?] assert that this prerogative for indirect control and sporadic invasions and occupations across the planet has largely come to fruition with the American superpower role since World War II.

"Such a expansion of the doctrine is premised on the 'nominal equality' of independent states.

"Such superficial equality is often undermined by material inequality, making the US a de facto global empire.[39]

"Smith argued that the founding of the United Nations played a role in the establishing this global protectorate situation."

 

[georgephillip]

United States security was threatened by wars in Europe in World War I and World War II, and since World War II, its been a National Security priority to insure the safety and stability of Europe. U

That's the official "party line", claiming the US was interested only in maintaining stability and safety in Europe.

In fact, US elites knew they would finish WWII with 6% of global population and 50% of global wealth; virtually everything done since that time has been in service of a "Grand Area" subservient to US domestic needs:

American Foreign Policy

"During World War II, American planners were well aware that the United States was going to emerge as a world-dominant power, in a position of hegemony that had few historical parallels, and they organized and met in order to deal with this situation.

"From 1939 to 1945, extensive studies were conducted by the Council on Foreign Relations and the State Department.

"One group was called the War-Peace Studies Group, which met for six years and produced extensive geopolitical analyses and plans. The Council on Foreign Relations is essentially the business input to foreign policy planning.

"These groups also involved every top planner in the State Department, with the exception of the Secretary of State.

"The conception that they developed is what they called 'Grand Area' planning. The Grand Area was a region that was to be subordinated to the needs of the American economy. As one planner put it, it was to be the region that is 'strategically necessary for world control.'

"The geopolitical analysis held that the Grand Area had to include at least the Western Hemisphere, the Far East, and the former British Empire, which we were then in the process of dismantling and taking over ourselves.

"This is what is called 'anti-imperialism' in American scholariship.

"The Grand Area was also to include western and southern Europe and the oil-producing regions of the Middle East; in fact, it was to include everything, if that were possible.

"Detailed plans were laid for particular regions of the Grand Area and also for international institutions that were to organize and police it, essentially in the interests of this subordination to U.S. domestic needs."

 

[harmonica]

sure --sure
.....US built on the INTELLIGENCE/brains of the whites--which was supreme --not white supremacy--intelligence supremacy

Built with black slave labor on stolen indigenous land.
How intelligent is that?

..VERY--hahhahahahahhaahah
..one of the greatest nations ever--undeniably VERY intelligent

 

[georgephillip]

1. Military spending is not an accurate way to measure military capability. I've already gone over this.

Would you say military spending is a necessary or a sufficient condition for Empire?

The US has 800 military bases outside its homeland because it spends more on "defense" than most of the rest of the world combined, and millions of innocent civilians are killed, maimed, or displaced.

 

[georgephillip]

Ukraine does not feel that the United States meddled in their country in 2014.

America's Ukraine Hypocrisy

"The extent of the Obama administration’s meddling in Ukraine’s politics was breathtaking.

"Russian intelligence intercepted and leaked to the international media a Nuland telephone call in which she and U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Geoffey Pyatt discussed in detail their preferences for specific personnel in a post‐Yanukovych government.

"The U.S-favored candidates included Arseniy Yatsenyuk, the man who became prime minister once Yanukovych was ousted from power. During the telephone call, Nuland stated enthusiastically that 'Yats is the guy' who would do the best job."

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

1. Military spending is not an accurate way to measure military capability. I've already gone over this.

Would you say military spending is a necessary or a sufficient condition for Empire?

The US has 800 military bases outside its homeland because it spends more on "defense" than most of the rest of the world combined, and millions of innocent civilians are killed, maimed, or displaced.

You still crying because we beat the Soviet Union?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Ukraine does not feel that the United States meddled in their country in 2014.

America's Ukraine Hypocrisy

"The extent of the Obama administration’s meddling in Ukraine’s politics was breathtaking.

"Russian intelligence intercepted and leaked to the international media a Nuland telephone call in which she and U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Geoffey Pyatt discussed in detail their preferences for specific personnel in a post‐Yanukovych government.

"The U.S-favored candidates included Arseniy Yatsenyuk, the man who became prime minister once Yanukovych was ousted from power. During the telephone call, Nuland stated enthusiastically that 'Yats is the guy' who would do the best job."

You still whining because Putin's guy had to flee before he got strung up?

 

[georgephillip]

If it was a staged coup as you claim, then Ukraine as an independent Democracy could launch sanctions against the United States and bring back Putin's puppets into Ukraine. Its been six years and they have not done that. WHY?

Because you can't sanction the global reserve currency especially if your military depends on that country for its Javelin missiles.

 

[Mac-7]

The Korean War began in 1945 when the US Army prevented a free election on the Korean peninsula.

Thats marxist revisionist history bullshit

the war began in june 1950 when n korea invaded south korea

 

[Mac-7]

Korean elections that were already planned?

No elections were planned that were approved by the US and not by any international body

 

[Correll]

When in all of history, has there not been war or the rumor of war?

For most of the last 100,000 years probably.
War became essential in the west with the rise of Greece and Rome, and war became vital to political economies with the advent of capitalism. Notice how the richest individuals in all those examples benefit most from the mass killing of innocent human beings.

Nikolai Bukharin: Imperialism and World Economy - Introduction by V.I. Lenin

So, support your bizarre claim that the pre-industrial ancient world, prior to Ancient Greece was "peaceful".


This is a rhetorical question. I know you cannot, and will just employ some form of evasion to avoid admitting it.

 

[Correll]

Trump is a vulgar braggart. Your attempt to spin that into something sinister, is you being hysterical.

Trump is a vulgar braggart like Hitler was a troublemaker.
Trump is a low-IQ bigot T....

i stopped reading here. I made a point, and instead of addressing it, you were just reasserting the same stupid shit, you know you can't back up.


So, you know you can't back up your shit, yet you stand by it, even though you know it is shit.


The question is, why are you such a dishonest shit pereson?

 

[Correll]

Yep. He backed away. That was him failing.


But if he had gotten a ground swell of support, he would have gone with it.

Leaders lead with or without a groundswell of support.
....

I already agreed with you, that that was a failure of his.


My point, was that it was a failure of yours too.


YOu want to address that? Or are you just going to keep moving on to the next line of attack? Wally.

 

[Mac-7]

Black slave labor was key to US GDP for centuries when King Cotton was grown on stolen indigenous land

Yeah, yeah.

we stole all the land from hard working indians who were just on the verge of discovering the wheel

and of course whites just lounged around while black slaves did all the work

what kind of crap are lib teachers brainwashing snowflakes with these days?

blacks were about 15% of the population and the only place we grew cotton was in the deep south

 

[Correll]

A war started by north korea

Wrong again.
The Korean War began in 1945 when the US Army prevented a free election on the Korean peninsula.

So, why don't they ask US to leave? Or the Europeans?

 

[Mac-7]

When North Korea invaded in 1950, a majority of Koreans from one end of the peninsula to the other supported reunification

Reunification yes.

slavery under communist masters?

not hardly

 

[georgephillip]

Reunification yes.

slavery under communist masters?

How was "slavery under communist masters" any different from slavery under a military dictatorship to millions of Koreans in 1945?

 

[Correll]

Reunification yes.

slavery under communist masters?

How was "slavery under communist masters" any different from slavery under a military dictatorship to millions of Koreans in 1945?

The rightwing dicatorship improved rapidly with time, while the communists one degraded to absolute hell on earth.

As you well know.