US Military's Knee on the Throat of the World

[georgephillip]

The rightwing dicatorship improved rapidly with time, while the communists one degraded to absolute hell on earth.

You mean after the rightwing military dictatorship forced a civil war that killed millions of Koreans? The only reason Korea was divided after WWII was a military occupation imposed on southern Koreans by the USA.

 

[Mac-7]

Well, koreans in the south could start a private business, own land, and go to church

Koreans south of the 38th parallel also saw their economy handicapped by the arbitrary division of the peninsula:

South Korea - South Korea Under United States Occupation, 1945-48

"There were many inherent problems in building a self-sufficient economy in the southern half of the peninsula.

"Most of the heavy industrial facilities were located in northern Korea--the Soviet zone--including the chemical plants that produced necessary agricultural fertilizers.

"Light industries in southern Korea had been dependent on electricity from the hydraulic generators located on the Yalu River on the Korean-Manchurian border; electric generating facilities in the south supplied only 9 percent of the total need.

"Railroads and industries in the south also had been dependent upon bituminous coal imported from Manchuria, Japan, and the north (although the south had been exporting some excess anthracite to the north)."

Blame that on the russians who insisted on a communist dictatorship

since 1945 the communists have insisted on unification only on their terms

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So, why don't they ask US to leave? Or the Europeans?

Much has changed in 75 years.
Koreans made their preferences for freedom and independence clear in 1945, and white supremacists on the opposite side of the Pacific prevented popular sovereignty from occurring:

South Korea - South Korea Under United States Occupation, 1945-48

"Lieutenant General John R. Hodge, commander of the United States occupation forces in Korea, was obliged to work under a severe handicap--a mission of maintaining peace and order until the international conflict over Korea was resolved.

"Possessing very limited resources, Hodge was expected to pursue the 'ultimate objective' of fostering 'conditions which would bring about the establishment of a free and independent nation.'

"General Hodge had to contend with hostile Korean political groups. Before United States forces had landed in Korea in September 1945, the Koreans had established self-governing bodies, or people's committees.

"The leaders of these committees had organized the Central People's Committee, which proclaimed the establishment of the 'Korean People's Republic' on September 6, 1945. Exiles, abroad, mainly in China, had organized the "Korean Provisional Government" in Shanghai as early as 1919 and had sustained a skeletal organization in other parts of China until 1945.

"The United States recognized neither the republic nor the provisional government."

Much has changed in 75 years.

North Korea is much worse than it was 75 years ago, eh comrade?
South Korea GDP, $39,500 per capita....
North Korea GDP, less than $2,000 per capita....

But at least they don't have any speculators.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You mean after the rightwing military dictatorship forced a civil war

Darn the South, for allowing China to invade. DURR......

 

[Correll]

This is a rhetorical question. I know you cannot, and will just employ some form of evasion to avoid admitting it.

Homo sapiens appeared about 300,000 years ago.
When did the first private fortunes first materialize?

War - Wikipedia

"The earliest evidence for prehistoric warfare belongs to the Mesolithic cemetery Site 117, which has been determined to be approximately 14,000 years old.

"About forty-five percent of the skeletons there displayed signs of violent death.[7]

"Since the rise of the state some 5,000 years ago,[8] military activity has occurred over much of the globe."

You are making no sense. You are conflating...pretty much any type of greater than tribal structure with "capitalism" and assigning all the ills of the world to your imaginary category.


Without any type of support beyond your assertions and things occurring within a few thousand years of each other, maybe.


You are ideological to the point that it is more like a religion to you. YOu are consumed by it, to the point that you don't care about the polices or the impact on people.

 

[Correll]

stopped reading here. I made a point, and instead of addressing it, you were just reasserting the same stupid shit, you know you can't back up.

Trump is a moron.
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Can you point to any other public figure who's been the subject of a claim like this?

Sure. All of them. Every public figure, has someone who will say bad shit about them. That you think that proves ANYTHING, is you being bat shit crazy.


Seriously. YOu are gonzo bat shit crazy.


You do know that marxism is a totalitarian ideology that has killed more people that Fascism, right?

 

[Correll]

So, why don't they ask US to leave? Or the Europeans?

Much has changed in 75 years.
Koreans made their preferences for freedom and independence clear in 1945, and white supremacists on the opposite side of the Pacific prevented popular sovereignty from occurring:

South Korea - South Korea Under United States Occupation, 1945-48

"Lieutenant General John R. Hodge, commander of the United States occupation forces in Korea, was obliged to work under a severe handicap--a mission of maintaining peace and order until the international conflict over Korea was resolved.

"Possessing very limited resources, Hodge was expected to pursue the 'ultimate objective' of fostering 'conditions which would bring about the establishment of a free and independent nation.'

"General Hodge had to contend with hostile Korean political groups. Before United States forces had landed in Korea in September 1945, the Koreans had established self-governing bodies, or people's committees.

"The leaders of these committees had organized the Central People's Committee, which proclaimed the establishment of the 'Korean People's Republic' on September 6, 1945. Exiles, abroad, mainly in China, had organized the "Korean Provisional Government" in Shanghai as early as 1919 and had sustained a skeletal organization in other parts of China until 1945.

"The United States recognized neither the republic nor the provisional government."

1. Your saying wacism, makes you look retarded.


2. Whatever. It's been over 50 years. The Cold War is over. IF they asked US to leave, we would leave.


Yet, they don't. THey prefer to bad mouth US, while enjoying our protection.


That choice, does not fit your premise, America's military's knee is on the throat of hte world.



You want to address that, or are you going to talk like a retarded child, or dodge some other way?

 

[Correll]

The rightwing dicatorship improved rapidly with time, while the communists one degraded to absolute hell on earth.

As you well know.

Largely because US for-profit US bombs reduced North Korea to a stone-age economy, and US sanctions have kept it that way for 70 years.

Bullshit. Your blame America first knee jerk is stupid and lazy and unsupported.


The fact remains, South Korea is a Free First World country and if you had had your marxist way, they would be a communist dictatorship.



Why are you on the side of Evil?

 

[Correll]

The rightwing dicatorship improved rapidly with time, while the communists one degraded to absolute hell on earth.

You mean after the rightwing military dictatorship forced a civil war that killed millions of Koreans? The only reason Korea was divided after WWII was a military occupation imposed on southern Koreans by the USA.

Nice anti-American spin.

I especially like how you left out the fact that the Americans defeated the genocidal Imperialists Japanese, as though that does not deserve mention.


As does the actions of Stalin's Soviet Union, or Mao's China.


THeir actions, seem to be without moral responsibility, while America is held to the most exacting standards.



Why do you always side with genocidal communists against the freedom loving Americans, whom you supposed are one?

 

[georgephillip]

I especially like how you left out the fact that the Americans defeated the genocidal Imperialists Japanese, as though that does not deserve mention.

The US defeat of Japan depended on allies like Stalin and Mao and thousands of Korean patriots who fought against the occupation of their homeland in Manchuria:

The fact you can not refute is this: neither Mao nor Stalin resorted to a military occupation of Korea in 1945 in order to prevent reunification elections. Only the USA did so, and we did it to initiate a cold war with our Soviet allies.

 

[Correll]

I especially like how you left out the fact that the Americans defeated the genocidal Imperialists Japanese, as though that does not deserve mention.

The US defeat of Japan depended on allies like Stalin and Mao and thousands of Korean patriots who fought against the occupation of their homeland in Manchuria:

The fact you can not refute is this: neither Mao nor Stalin resorted to a military occupation of Korea in 1945 in order to prevent reunification elections. Only the USA did so, and we did it to initiate a cold war with our Soviet allies.

The defeat of Japan was primarily an American operation. Stalin did not contribute greatly. THe Chinese people did.

I did not deny that the US did not want elections at that time.


You seem very upset about that election back in 1945. The massive genocides that occurred approximately around the same time periods by the Japanese, the Russians, and the Chinese,


don't matter. To you.


And we both know why. This is not about some election from 80 years ago. YOu don't care about that.


YOu care about Bashing America, because you are an anti-American marxist.

 

[georgephillip]

Actually, it's both China and Russia...they just don't send their OWN troops to do the maiming and murdering. They use proxies instead

Can you provide any examples of where China or Russian forces have created the chaos the US has across the Middle East?

 

[georgephillip]

Korea was liberated from the japanese and per agreement of the liberating allies it would under soviet and US control till it was ready to govern itself

Are you aware no Koreans were consulted at Yalta?

"DECEMBER 31, 2002
A Pop Quiz on Korea
by GARY LEUPP
(Choose the best answer. 3 points each. Answers at the end.)"


"4. At the Yalta Conference in February 1945, U.S. President Roosevelt and Soviet leader Joseph Stalin discussed the postwar future of Korea. Stalin advocated independence as soon as possible. Roosevelt

"a. agreed to immediate independence
b. advocated a trusteeship of 20-30 years, citing the positive example of U.S. rule in the Philippines
c. suggested Korea remain a part of the Japanese Empire, to be occupied by Allied forces"

 

[georgephillip]

Did cotton die after the slaves were freed?

freed by white men btw

Freed by poor white men while many rich white men who kept slaves had statues to their "heritage" raised in public parks.

Chattel slavery allowed the US to prosper for nearly the first century of its existence. Without the advantages of unpaid labor and free land, America would have found it much more difficult to compete with Europe.

The Economics of the Civil War

 

[Correll]

Did cotton die after the slaves were freed?

freed by white men btw

Freed by poor white men while many rich white men who kept slaves had statues to their "heritage" raised in public parks.

Chattel slavery allowed the US to prosper for nearly the first century of its existence. Without the advantages of unpaid labor and free land, America would have found it much more difficult to compete with Europe.

The Economics of the Civil War

Unsupported anti-American assertions by the commie who doesn't complaint about all the genocides committed by his commie heroes.


It was the children of the soldiers put up those statues, to remember their service.


YOur spin on it, is just more of your being an Anti-American asshole.

 

[georgephillip]

There could not be free elections unless there was international supervision

Can you name any other free elections anywhere on the planet that were monitored by international supervision in 1945?

https://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/articles/history-archaeology/segregation

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

There could not be free elections unless there was international supervision

Can you name any other free elections anywhere on the planet that were monitored by international supervision in 1945?

https://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/articles/history-archaeology/segregation

It's 2020, who is stopping free elections in North Korea today?

 

[georgephillip]

What does your head and Epstein's cock have in common? Both are egg shaped.

Will you SOB like a SNOWFLAKE when Trump finishes like Jeffrey?

 

[georgephillip]

But at least they don't have any speculators.

Have you considered emigration?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

But at least they don't have any speculators.

Have you considered emigration?

Commie shitholes are your thing.