US Drawing Up Plans To Sink the Russian Black Sea Fleet: Ukrainian Official

[Donald H]

In post after post you repeat Putin's lie about the war being between Russia and the US or Russia or NATO, but neither the US or NATO is at war, only Russia and Ukraine are.

I'm fully convinced that this war is America's war against Russia. And I've provided ample reasons for my opinion on that.

You began this thread with a lie, that the US was planning to sink Russian ships and you have repeated this lie throughout the thread. So why lie about the proposal to send anti ship missiles to Ukraine and repeat Putin's lie about the war being between Russia and the US unless you support Putin?

No, if fact I posted a link that suggests that it's being considered.

And with that, you've given me a valid reason why you should be ignored.

I have too many more important questions to debate than your obsession on why the US is supplying arms to the Ukraine.

Clean up your fkng act on the lying accusations or we're finished.

 

[toomuchtime_]

So far, the only ones who spoke officially about the US war with Russia were representatives of American politics.

There is no US war with Russia, however Putin repeatedly tells the Russian people that the US/NATO is the enemy he s fighting. In an effort to stay in power, Putin tells the Russian people scary NATO stories so that they will be too frightened to complain about his mismanagement of the government or the fact that he has stripped them of all rights and freedoms.

 

[rightwinger]

Let's go ahead and start ww3.

Right now, Russia is invading Ukraine

If they get an asskicking it is not my concern

 

[toomuchtime_]

I'm fully convinced that this war is America's war against Russia. And I've provided ample reasons for my opinion on that.

No, if fact I posted a link that suggests that it's being considered.

And with that, you've given me a valid reason why you should be ignored.

I have too many more important questions to debate than your obsession on why the US is supplying arms to the Ukraine.

Clean up your fkng act on the lying accusations or we're finished.

And yet again you prove it's impossible to support Putin without lying. You did provide a link and then in the text of your message you misrepresented its content by claiming it meant the US would sink Russian ships rather than just send anti ship missiles to Ukraine, and you have repeated this lie throughout the thread. All the fake indignation in the world will not change the fact that find it almost impossible to put up an honest threat.

 

[iceberg]

I understand that you don't agree with my characterization of the situation.

Your reasoning as opposed to mine on the purpose of the weapons to the Ukraine is not something I find important enough to debate.

Me supporting Putin is your misconception. The details are in a discussion, but my impression is that your dogma is in the way of that being possible.

I'm lying?

Maybe your impression is your own misconception.

 

[Donald H]

Maybe your impression is your own misconception.

That's always possible for any of us.
My purpose is to raise the question on the topic and to bring out some predictions because that reveals that some people are working past the propaganda that's designed to bring 'confidence' to the American people.

And possibility of nuclear war must be discounted and put down as quickly as possible.

And so now, are you going to be a spamming pos or are you going to get involved?

 

[Donald H]

All the fake indignation in the world will not change the fact that find it almost impossible to put up an honest threat.

What the hell are you trying to say?

Whatever? Don't quit serving the purpose of why I'm encouraging discussion here.

I find your interpretation of why America is sending weapons to the Ukraine as being one possibility.

But I still think my version is much more credible.

If interest in this topic continues, I'll maybe get to explaining my opinion tomorrow?

 

[eagle1462010]

Do you know why American politicians are afraid of North Korea? Because they know that there are no traitors in the leadership. Russia has spoiled the American political elite too much. If she cleans her ranks now, then you will be the first to run to book a one-way ticket to New Zealand or even to North Korea, because a personal bunker is unlikely to help.
The russian authorities are not humane communists, but the same capitalists as in the United States, and so that the world does not end its existence, capitalism as a system that cannot live without wars, must be eliminated.
Or humanity will be eliminated. Socialism or death!

Socialism or death. You lifted your skirt ivan. Lmao

 

[iceberg]

That's always possible for any of us.
My purpose is to raise the question on the topic and to bring out some predictions because that reveals that some people are working past the propaganda that's designed to bring 'confidence' to the American people.

And possibility of nuclear war must be discounted and put down as quickly as possible.

And so now, are you going to be a spamming pos or are you going to get involved?

I've tried talking to you before

its pointless

 

[Ringo]

Socialism or death. You lifted your skirt ivan. Lmao

You're constantly confirming that you are waste of space, Fritz.

 

[eagle1462010]

You're constantly confirming that you are waste of space, Fritz.

Socialism or death your funny Ivan

 

[para bellum]

Biden has his trans admiral planning the attack even now.

The big concern is that the Black Sea fleet will sink itself before we are ready to strike. It's a race against the clock.

 

[jknowgood]

Right now, Russia is invading Ukraine

If they get an asskicking it is not my concern

I hope they defeat Russia, but no American blood involed.

 

[Stann]

US Drawing Up Plans To Sink the Russian Black Sea Fleet: Ukrainian Official - News From Antiwar.com

Shortly after Reuters published an exclusive story that the White House was looking to move advanced anti-ship missiles to Ukraine, an official in Kiev said that the US is making a plan to sink Russia’s Black Sea Fleet. Ukrainian Ministry of Internal Affairs adviser Anton Gerashchenko tweeted...

news.antiwar.com

Even if it's only going to start with one ship at a time, will this be a critical escalation and the end of mutually agreed upon rules governing this war?

Or could this be only in the interests of America's 'confidence' propaganda being used to ensure the Amerian people that they are still safe?

It really does appear to have some negative effect on building confidence in American minds!

And IMHO it's a bit puzzling on what the purpose could be when the ability to sink Russia's fleet is already there?

As we have found out before over and over again, such type of aggression has to be dealt with with Force. The Russians can't be allowed to keep bombing in Ukraine senselessly.

 

[Stann]

I hope they defeat Russia, but no American blood involed.

If we keep giving them the right tools they can do that. I know it's a dangerous step, but if they do an all-out assault on Moscow that might end this.

 

[toomuchtime_]

What the hell are you trying to say?

Whatever? Don't quit serving the purpose of why I'm encouraging discussion here.

I find your interpretation of why America is sending weapons to the Ukraine as being one possibility.

But I still think my version is much more credible.

If interest in this topic continues, I'll maybe get to explaining my opinion tomorrow?

lol You're version is a lie. You titled the thread

What the hell are you trying to say?

Whatever? Don't quit serving the purpose of why I'm encouraging discussion here.

I find your interpretation of why America is sending weapons to the Ukraine as being one possibility.

But I still think my version is much more credible.

If interest in this topic continues, I'll maybe get to explaining my opinion tomorrow?

lol Again your version is a deliberate lie. You titled your thread,

US Intends to Sink Russia's Black Sea Fleet.​

and later talked about the consequences if the US took action to sink Russian ships when you knew the proposal was to send the missiles to Ukraine and not for the US to sink Russian ships. Again proving that it is impossible for some one who supports Putin not to lie.

 

[Foolardi]

And yet?

Yet Ynet !.This is turning into far more than a complex passion
play.The best opinions on this matter come from the best person
of sound mind.Like Pat Buchanan.
Now more than ever we need strong leaders like Eisenhower
Nixon and Reagan who worked to find common ground on which to
stand with Russia over conflict.Like Trump also managed.
" Russia has enlarged the territory it controls in Crimea and
it's Luhansk and Donetsk enclaves in the donbas.And now with the
fall of Mariupol,Moscow controls the entire Sea of Azov and has
completed it's land bridge from Russia to Crimea."
" Yet withal,Russia today remains a great power. "
" What of a U.S. - Russia detente as Moscow's future rather
than Cold War II . "
" Ike invited the " Butcher of Budapest " Nikita Khrushchev for a
12 day visit in 1959. Nixon initiated a " detente " with Leonid Brezhnev,
who had ordered the Warsaw Pact to crush the " Polish Spring in
1968.Reagan and Gorbachev negotiated the dismantling of an entire
class of Nuclear weapons in the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear
Forces Treaty. "
" In 230 years the United States has never gone to war with
Russia.Not with the Romanovs, nor with the Stalinists,not with the
Cold War Communists nor with the Putinists. "
" U.S. vital interests dictate that we maintain that tradition. "
So Help Us all.
Za Zdarovie { Nah zda-rovh-yeh }.

 

[Stann]

Biden has his trans admiral planning the attack even now.

The big concern is that the Black Sea fleet will sink itself before we are ready to strike. It's a race against the clock.

I don't believe button is planning the attack, we have been giving the ukrainians valuable tools and information about the enemy they face. It is up to them which targets they choose to attack.

 

[Donald H]

lol You're version is a lie. You titled the thread

lol Again your version is a deliberate lie. You titled your thread,

US Intends to Sink Russia's Black Sea Fleet.​

and later talked about the consequences if the US took action to sink Russian ships when you knew the proposal was to send the missiles to Ukraine and not for the US to sink Russian ships. Again proving that it is impossible for some one who supports Putin not to lie.

You're making an ass of yourself. Best you just go play.

 

[gipper]

In post after post you repeat Putin's lie about the war being between Russia and the US or Russia or NATO, but neither the US or NATO is at war, only Russia and Ukraine are. You began this thread with a lie, that the US was planning to sink Russian ships and you have repeated this lie throughout the thread. So why lie about the proposal to send anti ship missiles to Ukraine and repeat Putin's lie about the war being between Russia and the US unless you support Putin?

Really? If we were at war with Mexico and Russia was providing enormous amounts of deadly weapons to Mexico and bragging about killing our generals and sinking our ships, how would you respond to this?