US and UK governments in crisis

[westwall]

In both countries the ruling elite are at war with each other.

In the Uk Mrs Mays cabinet are split over paying nurses and policemen a living wage.

In the US the GOP control everything but cant agree on a health policy.

In both cases the left and right of the parties are at war.

There is a #fuckthepoor wing that wants to screw people who arent millionaires and opposing them a group who are scared of losing their public funded wage.

The latter are not as honest as the former who are honest in their position. They hate poor folks as well but they do need some of them to vote in their favour.

And whats your solution Einstein?

Politicians should protect the vulnerable.

I agree. Where does it say they should provide for the lazy?

If I respond to this you will ban me again.

Why would I ban you for a legit response? So, answer the question. Where does it say the government is supposed to provide for the lazy? I don't recall seeing that anywhere.

 

[westwall]

In both countries the ruling elite are at war with each other.

In the Uk Mrs Mays cabinet are split over paying nurses and policemen a living wage.

In the US the GOP control everything but cant agree on a health policy.

In both cases the left and right of the parties are at war.

There is a #fuckthepoor wing that wants to screw people who arent millionaires and opposing them a group who are scared of losing their public funded wage.

The latter are not as honest as the former who are honest in their position. They hate poor folks as well but they do need some of them to vote in their favour.

Capitalism is failing to meet the needs of our societies. The politicians have no solutions and what we are seeing is the manifestation of this reality.

Wrong. Capitalism is what has allowed the first world country's to provide for their people. The poorest of the poor in the USA is among the wealthiest one percent in the world. Capitalism has made that possible. The reason why idiots, like you, continue to spout this nonsense is because you have no clue what the rest of the world is like.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

In both countries the ruling elite are at war with each other.

In the Uk Mrs Mays cabinet are split over paying nurses and policemen a living wage.

In the US the GOP control everything but cant agree on a health policy.

In both cases the left and right of the parties are at war.

There is a #fuckthepoor wing that wants to screw people who arent millionaires and opposing them a group who are scared of losing their public funded wage.

The latter are not as honest as the former who are honest in their position. They hate poor folks as well but they do need some of them to vote in their favour.

And whats your solution Einstein?

Politicians should protect the vulnerable.

I agree. Where does it say they should provide for the lazy?

If I respond to this you will ban me again.

Show some initiative.

Improvise.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

In both countries the ruling elite are at war with each other.

In the Uk Mrs Mays cabinet are split over paying nurses and policemen a living wage.

In the US the GOP control everything but cant agree on a health policy.

In both cases the left and right of the parties are at war.

There is a #fuckthepoor wing that wants to screw people who arent millionaires and opposing them a group who are scared of losing their public funded wage.

The latter are not as honest as the former who are honest in their position. They hate poor folks as well but they do need some of them to vote in their favour.

Capitalism is failing to meet the needs of our societies. The politicians have no solutions and what we are seeing is the manifestation of this reality.

Not quite.

They are filling their pockets at everyone else's expense.

That is their... Um... Final solution.

 

[Tehon]

In both countries the ruling elite are at war with each other.

In the Uk Mrs Mays cabinet are split over paying nurses and policemen a living wage.

In the US the GOP control everything but cant agree on a health policy.

In both cases the left and right of the parties are at war.

There is a #fuckthepoor wing that wants to screw people who arent millionaires and opposing them a group who are scared of losing their public funded wage.

The latter are not as honest as the former who are honest in their position. They hate poor folks as well but they do need some of them to vote in their favour.

Capitalism is failing to meet the needs of our societies. The politicians have no solutions and what we are seeing is the manifestation of this reality.

Wrong. Capitalism is what has allowed the first world country's to provide for their people. The poorest of the poor in the USA is among the wealthiest one percent in the world. Capitalism has made that possible. The reason why idiots, like you, continue to spout this nonsense is because you have no clue what the rest of the world is like.

It had a good run but it is failing us now. Our politics are but one manifestation of that reality.

 

[westwall]

In both countries the ruling elite are at war with each other.

In the Uk Mrs Mays cabinet are split over paying nurses and policemen a living wage.

In the US the GOP control everything but cant agree on a health policy.

In both cases the left and right of the parties are at war.

There is a #fuckthepoor wing that wants to screw people who arent millionaires and opposing them a group who are scared of losing their public funded wage.

The latter are not as honest as the former who are honest in their position. They hate poor folks as well but they do need some of them to vote in their favour.

Capitalism is failing to meet the needs of our societies. The politicians have no solutions and what we are seeing is the manifestation of this reality.

Wrong. Capitalism is what has allowed the first world country's to provide for their people. The poorest of the poor in the USA is among the wealthiest one percent in the world. Capitalism has made that possible. The reason why idiots, like you, continue to spout this nonsense is because you have no clue what the rest of the world is like.

It had a good run but it is failing us now. Our politics are but one manifestation of that reality.

We don't have capitalism. We have crony capitalism which is thanks to corrupt politicians, and multinational corporations who have bought those politicians. Capitalism unfettered is a bad thing. Just like socialism unfettered is actually even worse. The reality is there has been no real capitalism for over one hundred years.

 

[007]

Politicians should protect the vulnerable.

Translation ... "I'm a lazy european used to the freebies and handouts while I sit on my ass and do nothing."

 

[Tehon]

In both countries the ruling elite are at war with each other.

In the Uk Mrs Mays cabinet are split over paying nurses and policemen a living wage.

In the US the GOP control everything but cant agree on a health policy.

In both cases the left and right of the parties are at war.

There is a #fuckthepoor wing that wants to screw people who arent millionaires and opposing them a group who are scared of losing their public funded wage.

The latter are not as honest as the former who are honest in their position. They hate poor folks as well but they do need some of them to vote in their favour.

Capitalism is failing to meet the needs of our societies. The politicians have no solutions and what we are seeing is the manifestation of this reality.

Wrong. Capitalism is what has allowed the first world country's to provide for their people. The poorest of the poor in the USA is among the wealthiest one percent in the world. Capitalism has made that possible. The reason why idiots, like you, continue to spout this nonsense is because you have no clue what the rest of the world is like.

It had a good run but it is failing us now. Our politics are but one manifestation of that reality.

We don't have capitalism. We have crony capitalism which is thanks to corrupt politicians, and multinational corporations who have bought those politicians. Capitalism unfettered is a bad thing. Just like socialism unfettered is actually even worse. The reality is there has been no real capitalism for over one hundred years.

Crony capitalism? That is just an acknowledgment that the capitalist system is failing to meet our needs and you refuse to look critically at the system that we use to organize the production and distribution of goods and services in our society. So you say that it is not capitalism, you say it is crony capitalism, as if it is something wholly different than the private distribution of goods and services. It's absurd. Our government was built from its creation to protect private wealth. And it is capitalism which has allowed people to build the wealth necessary to dominate our politics and mold society into what we see today. Capitalism is the vehicle which has driven us to this point in time where our governments appear to be in crisis. And certainly we can see in our country, when we look at the person occupying the White House, that things have gone a little off the rails.

 

[westwall]

In both countries the ruling elite are at war with each other.

In the Uk Mrs Mays cabinet are split over paying nurses and policemen a living wage.

In the US the GOP control everything but cant agree on a health policy.

In both cases the left and right of the parties are at war.

There is a #fuckthepoor wing that wants to screw people who arent millionaires and opposing them a group who are scared of losing their public funded wage.

The latter are not as honest as the former who are honest in their position. They hate poor folks as well but they do need some of them to vote in their favour.

Capitalism is failing to meet the needs of our societies. The politicians have no solutions and what we are seeing is the manifestation of this reality.

Wrong. Capitalism is what has allowed the first world country's to provide for their people. The poorest of the poor in the USA is among the wealthiest one percent in the world. Capitalism has made that possible. The reason why idiots, like you, continue to spout this nonsense is because you have no clue what the rest of the world is like.

It had a good run but it is failing us now. Our politics are but one manifestation of that reality.

We don't have capitalism. We have crony capitalism which is thanks to corrupt politicians, and multinational corporations who have bought those politicians. Capitalism unfettered is a bad thing. Just like socialism unfettered is actually even worse. The reality is there has been no real capitalism for over one hundred years.

Crony capitalism? That is just an acknowledgment that the capitalist system is failing to meet our needs and you refuse to look critically at the system that we use to organize the production and distribution of goods and services in our society. So you say that it is not capitalism, you say it is crony capitalism, as if it is something wholly different than the private distribution of goods and services. It's absurd. Our government was built from its creation to protect private wealth. And it is capitalism which has allowed people to build the wealth necessary to dominate our politics and mold society into what we see today. Capitalism is the vehicle which has driven us to this point in time where our governments appear to be in crisis. And certainly we can see in our country, when we look at the person occupying the White House, that things have gone a little off the rails.

No, that is an acknowledgement that politicians are corrupt and will sell out the people for a buck. And your solution is to place ALL of our power into the hands of politicians who WE KNOW are corrupt. Right now we the people have the power. We sadly don't exercise it very well, but we still have the power. The POLITICAL class however is trying to take that power away from us, and you want to give it to them.

 

[2aguy]

In both countries the ruling elite are at war with each other.

In the Uk Mrs Mays cabinet are split over paying nurses and policemen a living wage.

In the US the GOP control everything but cant agree on a health policy.

In both cases the left and right of the parties are at war.

There is a #fuckthepoor wing that wants to screw people who arent millionaires and opposing them a group who are scared of losing their public funded wage.

The latter are not as honest as the former who are honest in their position. They hate poor folks as well but they do need some of them to vote in their favour.

No...you have the "We don't have any money" wing, and then you have the "We don't have any money but we still want to keep spending the imaginary money we don't have" wing....

I keep telling you guys.......the first thing the socialists do is cut spending on the police, so that they can keep spending money on social welfare hand outs...to get votes.....they have enough cops to protect the neighborhoods of the rich socialists......and the poor socialists will keep giving their votes to Santa Claus.....so the police lose manpower and reserouces, and the violent crime rates sky rocket...which is now happening in Britain....

 

[2aguy]

In both countries the ruling elite are at war with each other.

In the Uk Mrs Mays cabinet are split over paying nurses and policemen a living wage.

In the US the GOP control everything but cant agree on a health policy.

In both cases the left and right of the parties are at war.

There is a #fuckthepoor wing that wants to screw people who arent millionaires and opposing them a group who are scared of losing their public funded wage.

The latter are not as honest as the former who are honest in their position. They hate poor folks as well but they do need some of them to vote in their favour.

Capitalism is failing to meet the needs of our societies. The politicians have no solutions and what we are seeing is the manifestation of this reality.

Wrong. Capitalism is what has allowed the first world country's to provide for their people. The poorest of the poor in the USA is among the wealthiest one percent in the world. Capitalism has made that possible. The reason why idiots, like you, continue to spout this nonsense is because you have no clue what the rest of the world is like.

It had a good run but it is failing us now. Our politics are but one manifestation of that reality.

We don't have capitalism. We have crony capitalism which is thanks to corrupt politicians, and multinational corporations who have bought those politicians. Capitalism unfettered is a bad thing. Just like socialism unfettered is actually even worse. The reality is there has been no real capitalism for over one hundred years.

Crony capitalism? That is just an acknowledgment that the capitalist system is failing to meet our needs and you refuse to look critically at the system that we use to organize the production and distribution of goods and services in our society. So you say that it is not capitalism, you say it is crony capitalism, as if it is something wholly different than the private distribution of goods and services. It's absurd. Our government was built from its creation to protect private wealth. And it is capitalism which has allowed people to build the wealth necessary to dominate our politics and mold society into what we see today. Capitalism is the vehicle which has driven us to this point in time where our governments appear to be in crisis. And certainly we can see in our country, when we look at the person occupying the White House, that things have gone a little off the rails.

It isn't crony capitalism...it is crony socialism.....

 

[Tehon]

The POLITICAL class however is trying to take that power away from us, and you want to give it to them.

No they are not trying to take the power away from us. They are following their own self interests which is the foundation of the capitalist system. In doing so they are doing the bidding of those who feed the politician's interest. Those who have acquired the means and mean to keep it.

And I don't believe in giving the government more power. Just saying.

 

[2aguy]

Capitalism is failing to meet the needs of our societies. The politicians have no solutions and what we are seeing is the manifestation of this reality.

Wrong. Capitalism is what has allowed the first world country's to provide for their people. The poorest of the poor in the USA is among the wealthiest one percent in the world. Capitalism has made that possible. The reason why idiots, like you, continue to spout this nonsense is because you have no clue what the rest of the world is like.

It had a good run but it is failing us now. Our politics are but one manifestation of that reality.

We don't have capitalism. We have crony capitalism which is thanks to corrupt politicians, and multinational corporations who have bought those politicians. Capitalism unfettered is a bad thing. Just like socialism unfettered is actually even worse. The reality is there has been no real capitalism for over one hundred years.

Crony capitalism? That is just an acknowledgment that the capitalist system is failing to meet our needs and you refuse to look critically at the system that we use to organize the production and distribution of goods and services in our society. So you say that it is not capitalism, you say it is crony capitalism, as if it is something wholly different than the private distribution of goods and services. It's absurd. Our government was built from its creation to protect private wealth. And it is capitalism which has allowed people to build the wealth necessary to dominate our politics and mold society into what we see today. Capitalism is the vehicle which has driven us to this point in time where our governments appear to be in crisis. And certainly we can see in our country, when we look at the person occupying the White House, that things have gone a little off the rails.

No, that is an acknowledgement that politicians are corrupt and will sell out the people for a buck. And your solution is to place ALL of our power into the hands of politicians who WE KNOW are corrupt. Right now we the people have the power. We sadly don't exercise it very well, but we still have the power. The POLITICAL class however is trying to take that power away from us, and you want to give it to them.

That is the thing that always amazes me in arguments with left wingers....the government is corrupt, they say, they say the rich control the government and will steal from the poor, the rich, who control the government want the poor to starve, and to die.......

And then you ask them what they want, and they say....we want that same government, controlled by those same people, to control our healthcare, our retirement plans, our kids education, and our speech rights.....

They are insane...

 

[FJO]

In both countries the ruling elite are at war with each other.

In the Uk Mrs Mays cabinet are split over paying nurses and policemen a living wage.

In the US the GOP control everything but cant agree on a health policy.

In both cases the left and right of the parties are at war.

There is a #fuckthepoor wing that wants to screw people who arent millionaires and opposing them a group who are scared of losing their public funded wage.

The latter are not as honest as the former who are honest in their position. They hate poor folks as well but they do need some of them to vote in their favour.

Capitalism is failing to meet the needs of our societies. The politicians have no solutions and what we are seeing is the manifestation of this reality.

Capitalism is failing / has failed to meet the WANTS of our society.

Examination of one's own self as to what one's labor and efforts are worth, would lead to the inescapable conclusion that one does not deserve a dollar for one cent's worth of work and effort, regardless what unions and Bernie Sanders say.

Creeps like Sanders never NEEDED two or more residences they wanted two residences. And just like Sanders's two residences were paid for by someone else's money, all the so-called NEEDS of society is always paid for by someone else's money.

You provide for your own NEEDS, you demand someone else pay for your WANTS.

 

[FJO]

In both countries the ruling elite are at war with each other.

In the Uk Mrs Mays cabinet are split over paying nurses and policemen a living wage.

In the US the GOP control everything but cant agree on a health policy.

In both cases the left and right of the parties are at war.

There is a #fuckthepoor wing that wants to screw people who arent millionaires and opposing them a group who are scared of losing their public funded wage.

The latter are not as honest as the former who are honest in their position. They hate poor folks as well but they do need some of them to vote in their favour.

Capitalism is failing to meet the needs of our societies. The politicians have no solutions and what we are seeing is the manifestation of this reality.

Wrong. Capitalism is what has allowed the first world country's to provide for their people. The poorest of the poor in the USA is among the wealthiest one percent in the world. Capitalism has made that possible. The reason why idiots, like you, continue to spout this nonsense is because you have no clue what the rest of the world is like.

It had a good run but it is failing us now. Our politics are but one manifestation of that reality.

We don't have capitalism. We have crony capitalism which is thanks to corrupt politicians, and multinational corporations who have bought those politicians. Capitalism unfettered is a bad thing. Just like socialism unfettered is actually even worse. The reality is there has been no real capitalism for over one hundred years.

Crony capitalism? That is just an acknowledgment that the capitalist system is failing to meet our needs and you refuse to look critically at the system that we use to organize the production and distribution of goods and services in our society. So you say that it is not capitalism, you say it is crony capitalism, as if it is something wholly different than the private distribution of goods and services. It's absurd. Our government was built from its creation to protect private wealth. And it is capitalism which has allowed people to build the wealth necessary to dominate our politics and mold society into what we see today. Capitalism is the vehicle which has driven us to this point in time where our governments appear to be in crisis. And certainly we can see in our country, when we look at the person occupying the White House, that things have gone a little off the rails.

Of course, crony socialism is much better as witnessed in Europe, Venezuela and Africa.

 

[Tehon]

Capitalism is failing to meet the needs of our societies. The politicians have no solutions and what we are seeing is the manifestation of this reality.

Wrong. Capitalism is what has allowed the first world country's to provide for their people. The poorest of the poor in the USA is among the wealthiest one percent in the world. Capitalism has made that possible. The reason why idiots, like you, continue to spout this nonsense is because you have no clue what the rest of the world is like.

It had a good run but it is failing us now. Our politics are but one manifestation of that reality.

We don't have capitalism. We have crony capitalism which is thanks to corrupt politicians, and multinational corporations who have bought those politicians. Capitalism unfettered is a bad thing. Just like socialism unfettered is actually even worse. The reality is there has been no real capitalism for over one hundred years.

Crony capitalism? That is just an acknowledgment that the capitalist system is failing to meet our needs and you refuse to look critically at the system that we use to organize the production and distribution of goods and services in our society. So you say that it is not capitalism, you say it is crony capitalism, as if it is something wholly different than the private distribution of goods and services. It's absurd. Our government was built from its creation to protect private wealth. And it is capitalism which has allowed people to build the wealth necessary to dominate our politics and mold society into what we see today. Capitalism is the vehicle which has driven us to this point in time where our governments appear to be in crisis. And certainly we can see in our country, when we look at the person occupying the White House, that things have gone a little off the rails.

Of course, crony socialism is much better as witnessed in Europe, Venezuela and Africa.

I don't advocate a state capitalist system.We understand that is a proven failure.

 

[Tilly]

Politicians should protect the vulnerable.

Translation ... "I'm a lazy european used to the freebies and handouts while I sit on my ass and do nothing."

Tommy is Welsh. The Welsh live on mega EU handouts. They've wasted 6 billion of those handouts in a few short years alone on their obsession with speaking Welsh There seems to be a real 'entitlement' issue in Wales.

 

[Tehon]

You provide for your own NEEDS

How do we do this? By participating in the economy, hunter/gatherer or stealing? And if the answer is by participating in the economy, why is the capitalist economy that we participate in leaving people with food insecurities, or a lack of healthcare? Homelessness?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

In both countries the ruling elite are at war with each other.

In the Uk Mrs Mays cabinet are split over paying nurses and policemen a living wage.

In the US the GOP control everything but cant agree on a health policy.

In both cases the left and right of the parties are at war.

There is a #fuckthepoor wing that wants to screw people who arent millionaires and opposing them a group who are scared of losing their public funded wage.

The latter are not as honest as the former who are honest in their position. They hate poor folks as well but they do need some of them to vote in their favour.

Of course, our rightwing nitwits are worse than your rightwing nitwits.

 

[HenryBHough]

Tommy is Welsh. The Welsh live on mega EU handouts. They've wasted 6 billion of those handouts in a few short years alone on their obsession with speaking Welsh There seems to be a real 'entitlement' issue in Wales.

True - but that's so much less bother than doing it the old way: