Universal Basic Income: Biden's Best Bet?

[Orangecat]

Isn't right wing fantasy wonderful.

I see your boilerplate response and raise you a "Parler misses you".

 

[Orangecat]

He could do it
Explain how.

Psychobabble pending.

 

[Orangecat]

Nobody takes right wingers seriously about economics or the law. Hoax is all they have.

You think anyone takes your childish views on economics seriously? Really? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

 

[Orangecat]

He could do it when even the right wing's reality tv guy could not get, that Real.

Why the comma and the capitalization of "real"?

 

[danielpalos]

Gentlemen, there is no provision for excuses in our federal doctrine.

 

[Orangecat]

Gentlemen, there is no provision for excuses in our federal doctrine.

Nor is there a provision for wealth redistribution to facilitate currency circulation.

 

[The Original Tree]

Universal Income is Satanic and from The UN. Do not fall in to this baited trap which will lead to the oppression of many.

 

[danielpalos]

Gentlemen, there is no provision for excuses in our federal doctrine.

Nor is there a provision for wealth redistribution to facilitate currency circulation.

Government is socialism. It is a self-evident Truth, except in right wing fantasy.

 

[Orangecat]

Government is socialism. It is a self-evident Truth, except in right wing fantasy.

There still isn't a provision for wealth redistribution to facilitate currency circulation. Your plan is just LWNJ nanny-state navel gazing.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So the solution is not destroying the greatest country in the world, the solution is for you to stop giving them your money. You don't need a cell phone. You don't need cable or satellite that provides you with 400 channels plus pay-per-view. You don't need netflix. You don't need this internet; you can use the one at the library.

Do you honestly believe libraries, cable tv, cell phones, and the internet would not exist without billionaires?

Billionaires are created by the state, not by consumers.

No, billionaires are created by us, the consumer. Do you think Bill Gates was always a billionaire? He made his first computer in his garage. How about the founders of Apple computer, Facebook, Twitter, they were all billionaires?

Let's say you and I got into a discussion about used cars, and you mentioned a car you were going to sell, and it's a car I happened to be in the market for. We meet, I give you $20,000 for your car, and you give me the title. I now own the car.

A few months later, some Democrat politician comes knocking on your door. He says you must give me my money back for the car. You respond by saying "If Ray from Cleveland is unhappy with the car, tell him to bring it back and I'll refund his money!" The politician says no, you give Ray from Cleveland his money back, and he gets to keep the car.

This is what you're asking for. You gave all these rich people your money for Big Mac's, cell phones, Whoppers, gasoline, cable television, computers, internet, a printer, and now want that money back while keeping the product you now have that made them wealthy.

You don't see the unfairness of this?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

How do millionaires and billionaires get their money? From you. Not just you.......all of us. Every week, perhaps several times a week, you distribute your money to the top.

We all distribute our money inside a market that is created by the state. The distribution of income inside the state-created market system is not the result of an invisible hand's objective appraisal of each billionaire's marginal utility but rather through political bribes (campaign contributions) designed to exploit the politically constructed laws and institutions that structure economic activity in their society. You should stop celebrating their greed and begin to criticize it.

We have a free (but very regulated) market system. That's why we have the economy we do. Politicians donate to both parties to keep them off their ass. The corporations don't exist because of the state, they exist because of our capitalist society we the people created. Unlike a lot of places, people are rewarded for their work or ideas.

Those who don't move their money to the top are the Amish and Quakers. They make everything they have. They don't use natural gas, they burn wood for heat. They don't have electricity so they don't have air conditioning in the summer. They don't have a car that needs gasoline. They have horses and grow the food to feed them. But would you want to live like they do? I know I sure as hell wouldn't.

So I'm more than happy to give the millionaires and billionaires my money. They make my life enjoyable, convenient and comfortable so I don't have to live like the Amish.

 

[bripat9643]

Nobody takes right wingers seriously about economics or the law. Hoax is all they have.

You think anyone takes your childish views on economics seriously? Really? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

I think danielpalos is semi-retarded. I don't waste my time on him.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I don't leave today for the same reasons I didn't leave when I heard "love it or leave it" for the first time during the heroic US invasion/occupation of South Vietnam fifty years ago: I'm on the correct side of history, and your side is not.

Our side is the correct side and I'll tell you why: Our country is relatively new. We've only been around a few hundred years. Compared to societies that have been around for thousands of years, we became the worlds super power in that short time. We became the most successful, the wealthiest, the strongest in the entire world, and we didn't do that with socialism or communism. We did it with capitalism.

Look.......you can go to any other country you think is utopia, try it out for a while, and see how you like it first. If you discover it's not all you thought it would be, you can always move back to the good ole USA. But once you turn this place into one of those other places and find out it was a bad deal, there is no other USA to move back to. There is only one, and that's us. Once this place is gone, it's gone forever. That's what we on the right are trying to prevent.

 

[bripat9643]

Gentlemen, there is no provision for excuses in our federal doctrine.

Nor is there a provision for wealth redistribution to facilitate currency circulation.

Government is socialism. It is a self-evident Truth, except in right wing fantasy.

Government is socialism, which explains why government and socialism both suck.

 

[danielpalos]

Gentlemen, there is no provision for excuses in our federal doctrine.

Nor is there a provision for wealth redistribution to facilitate currency circulation.

Government is socialism. It is a self-evident Truth, except in right wing fantasy.

Government is socialism, which explains why government and socialism both suck.

Only lousy management has no solutions.

 

[Orangecat]

Only lousy management has no solutions.

Liberal staffing policy is the catalyst of lousy management.

 

[georgephillip]

The solution to your concern is to become a CEO yourself if what they make bothers you so much. Why do you people on the left focus on CEO's, but never say a word about entertainment?

That makes as much sense to me as saying "if you object to the wealth a drug dealer makes, become one yourself." Both the dealer and the parasite earn their wealth through exploitation, so, if it's all the same to you, I'll stick with my SSA and SSI.

As far as entertainment's concerned, professional athletes compete on level, heavily regulated playing fields which is about as far from monopoly capitalism as possible.

 

[bripat9643]

The solution to your concern is to become a CEO yourself if what they make bothers you so much. Why do you people on the left focus on CEO's, but never say a word about entertainment?

That makes as much sense to me as saying "if you object to the wealth a drug dealer makes, become one yourself." Both the dealer and the parasite earn their wealth through exploitation, so, if it's all the same to you, I'll stick with my SSA and SSI.

As far as entertainment's concerned, professional athletes compete on level, heavily regulated playing fields which is about as far from monopoly capitalism as possible.

So making a cell phone and selling it is the equivalent of dealing heroin? How is selling you a cell phone "exploiting" you?

You see how easy it is to reveal what a moron you are?

 

[georgephillip]

How much more does a star pitcher in MLB make than the hotdog vendor in the stands? How about the parking lot attendant?

How much does an actor make in a popular sitcom compared to the stage hands, the makeup people, the lighting crew or camera person?

How does the political influence of the actor and singer compare to the CEO?

Corporations run this country in case you haven't noticed.

 

[bripat9643]

How much more does a star pitcher in MLB make than the hotdog vendor in the stands? How about the parking lot attendant?

How much does an actor make in a popular sitcom compared to the stage hands, the makeup people, the lighting crew or camera person?

How does the political influence of the actor and singer compare to the CEO?
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Corporations run this country in case you haven't noticed.

What difference does that make?