"Unity"

[dblack]

You gave me your opinion about what legislation is important, just like everyone else will. We all have an opinion about what's legislatively important.

No, I didn't. I was pointing out why limited government is so important. The Constitution only authorizes us to settle our problems with legislation in specific circumstances. When we try to deny those limitations, and force legislative solutions regardless, it creates dis-unity. It leaves half the country angry and resentful.

 

[Curried Goats]

No, I didn't. I was pointing out why limited government is so important.

To you. You gave me your opinion and then tried to pretend it has some objective value of right or wrong. Its that i disagree with, not you having an opinion.

The Constitution only authorizes us to settle our problems with legislation in specific circumstances. When we try to deny those limitations, and force legislative solutions regardless, it creates dis-unity. It leaves half the country angry and resentful.

The Constitution isnt some sacred text. It's a document written by people to rule over other people and is open to interpretation depending on how you wish to use it.

 

[MarathonMike]

There's another current thread that uses the term "unity" but under a different context. So rather than derail that one, let's try one that is specific to the term itself.

In that thread and pretty much all threads here, the term "unity" is scoffed at and mocked. No surprise. Personally, given this country's present condition, I thought it was dumb when Biden tried to use it when he was first elected. We're just not close enough to it to even discuss it right now.

Anyway, here's what I'm wondering: Since so many here are pretty much on the other side of the fence from unity, what would "disunity" look like to you? My guess is that you want to "beat" the other side and impose your will on them (with specific laws and legislation, I guess) going forward. Is that correct?

So can anyone here go into detail on what "anti-unity" would look like, in practice, on a day-to-day basis? Think out of the box and lay it out. What is the goal here?

Americans Agree Nation Is Divided on Key Values

Eight in 10 Americans, a new high, perceive the U.S. as being greatly divided on the most important values.

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Barack Obama is the poster child for "Anti-Unity". He more than any other President COULD HAVE been the champion for unity. He COULD HAVE SAID "Look at me! I am a mixed race man from a single parent family. I had no silver spoon and yet I stand before you today as the President of The United States"

No he chose the other path of inflaming racial animus, demonizing the police, making Black Lives Matter into an international fraud. Vilifying the successful, mocking Christians and even scolding new Black graduates at their commencements. That is what "Anti-Unity" looks like Mac. And Biden is just Obama version 2.0.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

So Mac is crying that humans are doing human shit? That's pretty much my read on every one of his threads.

I believe the concerns are valid, just perhaps worded a little hyperbolic at times. Generations are addicted to social media, which to me breeds disunity (YMMV). History tells us humans do a pretty piss poor job at learning from our mistakes.

 

[Curried Goats]

I believe the concerns are valid, just perhaps worded a little hyperbolic at times. Generations are addicted to social media, which to me breeds disunity (YMMV). History tells us humans do a pretty piss poor job at learning from our mistakes.

That kind of sounds like blaming video games and rock and roll on what is just normal human shit.

 

[Mac-7]

That kind of sounds like blaming video games and rock and roll on what is just normal human shit.

15-year old female mass murderers are not “normal human shit”

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

That kind of sounds like blaming video games and rock and roll on what is just normal human shit.

If you say so.

Social media’s impact on our mental health and tips to use it safely

Social media can be a great tool to connect with family and friends. But it’s also been linked to depression, anxiety and loneliness. Learn more about the impacts of social media and how to use it safely.

health.ucdavis.edu

 

[dblack]

To you. You gave me your opinion and then tried to pretend it has some objective value of right or wrong. Its that i disagree with, not you having an opinion.

The Constitution isnt some sacred text. It's a document written by people to rule over other people and is open to interpretation depending on how you wish to use it.

Okay. I still contend that the limitations on government agreed to in the Constitution help to preserve unity. And evading them leads to disunity.

 

[Curried Goats]

15-year old female mass murderers are not “normal human shit”

Depends on how you look at it.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Depends on how you look at it.

Profound.

 

[Curried Goats]

If you say so.

Social media’s impact on our mental health and tips to use it safely

Social media can be a great tool to connect with family and friends. But it’s also been linked to depression, anxiety and loneliness. Learn more about the impacts of social media and how to use it safely.

health.ucdavis.edu

Social media is just people communicating and socializing with one another in different way.

 

[Curried Goats]

Profound.

As profound as the argument. Women murderers are not the norm (mathematical average) no, but it is normal for a percentage of the female population to murder.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Social media is just people communicating and socializing with one another in different way.

To you.

 

[Curried Goats]

Okay. I still contend that the limitations on government agreed to in the Constitution help to preserve unity. And evading them leads to disunity.

Are we talking about the same country that broke out into civil war not too long after? The limiting constitution that allowed for generational chattel slavery? I'm always amused by your framing.

 

[Curried Goats]

To you.

To reality.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

To reality.

Your opinion, and I'd I say you're mistaken. Before social media we didn't cyberstalk and attack others 24/7, because we didn't have the audience or the means.

 

[Curried Goats]

Your opinion, and I'd I say you're mistaken. Before social media we didn't cyberstalk and attack others 24/7, because we didn't have the audience or the means.

People just stalked others in real life. You're not describing anything new, just a new venue for these old ass human behaviors to occur.

 

[Mac-7]

Depends on how you look at it.

Maybe so if we’re running on ghetto time

But in this case not

 

[Curried Goats]

Maybe so if we’re running on ghetto time

But in this case not

What's ghetto time and what does this have to do with your argument?

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

People just stalked others in real life.

To the same extent as current times? No.

You're not describing anything new, just a new venue for these old ass human behaviors to occur.

I see. You don't believe social media has fundamentally changed anything in society. I disagree.