C_Clayton_Jones
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This demonstrates once again that there’s nothing in Christian dogma justifying discriminating against those who are gay – both factions of the United Methodist Church can’t be right.
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They are probably both wrong. All 600 plus denominations think the other 599 are wrong and going to hell.This demonstrates once again that there’s nothing in Christian dogma justifying discriminating against those who are gay – both factions of the United Methodist Church can’t be right.
All Churches will have to resolve their unfounded hatred of homosexuality
The pope will change the Churches reaction to homosexuality. He already hasPope Francis will not change the Catholic Church's teaching on homosexuality because he can't.
Other Churches, not guided by the Holy Spirit, will fall into error and die.
Christian churches will act to the teachings of ChristAll Churches will have to resolve their unfounded hatred of homosexuality
What you are demanding is that all churches must discard God's wisdom, in order to pander to mortal folly; to preach to people what they want to hear, rather than what they need to hear. And there will be plenty of churches that will do exactly that, just as Paul prophesied in 2 Timothy 4:3-4. There will be plenty who will openly reject God's standards, and even come to characterize those and any basic standards of decency and morality as “hatred”. We are certainly seeing a lot of this, these days.
3» For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4» And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
Churches that are sincere and true in their allegiance to God will continue to teach and uphold God's standards, regardless of what the mortal world demands.
Comrades, is it too much to ask that we recognize the difference between SIN and the inclination to sin (which we all have)?
Pope Francis has notoriously said, in effect, if you are homosexual (i.e., if you have that inclination), then God still loves you and we Christians still love you.
But this is NOT equivalent to saying, We condone homosexual sodomy.
But to get back to the subject of the thread, the United Methodist Church has a major faction which sanctions and condones homosexual sodomy. There is a world of difference between the Pope's position and theirs. There is a world of difference between the teachings of the Torah and the acceptance of homosexual sodomy.
Comrades, is it too much to ask that we recognize the difference between SIN and the inclination to sin (which we all have)?
Pope Francis has notoriously said, in effect, if you are homosexual (i.e., if you have that inclination), then God still loves you and we Christians still love you.
But this is NOT equivalent to saying, We condone homosexual sodomy.
But to get back to the subject of the thread, the United Methodist Church has a major faction which sanctions and condones homosexual sodomy. There is a world of difference between the Pope's position and theirs. There is a world of difference between the teachings of the Torah and the acceptance of homosexual sodomy.
The Pope knows what Homosexual sex is
He is willing to accept Homosexuals for who they are.
The silly......You can be homosexual, you just can’t make love to your partner argument does not cut it.
What you don’t understand is that people are wired the way they areComrades, is it too much to ask that we recognize the difference between SIN and the inclination to sin (which we all have)?
Pope Francis has notoriously said, in effect, if you are homosexual (i.e., if you have that inclination), then God still loves you and we Christians still love you.
But this is NOT equivalent to saying, We condone homosexual sodomy.
But to get back to the subject of the thread, the United Methodist Church has a major faction which sanctions and condones homosexual sodomy. There is a world of difference between the Pope's position and theirs. There is a world of difference between the teachings of the Torah and the acceptance of homosexual sodomy.
The Pope knows what Homosexual sex is
He is willing to accept Homosexuals for who they are.
The silly......You can be homosexual, you just can’t make love to your partner argument does not cut it.
The problem that you are having here, RW, is that you don't recognize the idea of Free Will.
If someone decides to take it in the caboose, that's their Free Will.
If someone is in the joint, and some gay guys overpower him and take his manhood by force, that's really not a sin for the recipient here.
Christian churches will act to the teachings of ChristAll Churches will have to resolve their unfounded hatred of homosexuality
What you are demanding is that all churches must discard God's wisdom, in order to pander to mortal folly; to preach to people what they want to hear, rather than what they need to hear. And there will be plenty of churches that will do exactly that, just as Paul prophesied in 2 Timothy 4:3-4. There will be plenty who will openly reject God's standards, and even come to characterize those and any basic standards of decency and morality as “hatred”. We are certainly seeing a lot of this, these days.
3» For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4» And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
Churches that are sincere and true in their allegiance to God will continue to teach and uphold God's standards, regardless of what the mortal world demands.
Jesus would not have treated homosexuals the way that his churches do
There's no differential pressure present.How do your heads not explode from the hypocrisy?
This too shall pass.It sickens me