Unexpected Brexit Earthquake?

[HenryBHough]

While the leftist vultures are sorting out how they'd like to pick Britain's bones, from an unexpected quarter comes a blockbuster that has sales of Depends soaring in European capitals!

No, I didn't see this coming....

'Brexit EARTHQUAKE': EU fatcats' fears as Swedish MEP suggests 'UK-Nordic trading bloc'

'Brexit EARTHQUAKE': EU fatcats' fears as Swedish MEP suggests 'UK-Nordic trading bloc'
SPECIAL REPORT: COMPLACENT politicians in Brussels once scoffed at the idea of Britain turning its back on the EU because they did not believe it would ever happen.

But as one put it last night: “They’ve stopped laughing now.” Across Brussels the talk is of Brexit and the political “earthquake” which a UK vote to Leave would cause. MEPs discussed the implications for Europe as a whole and for their countries individually, with the 750-strong European Parliament enjoying what is potentially its last weekend united with the UK.

Swedish MEP Peter Lundgren said Denmark and Sweden were already “on the brink” of quitting, suggesting that should the UK leave, a “Nordic trading bloc” led by Britain could be born. Sweden has been sticking by its EU commitments, but barely. It’s little wonder. Sweden now has the highest level of non-EU immigration per capita.

And while newcomers are extended free health care and a five-euro flat fee for dental care, the elderly have seen their state pensions cut and must still pay 400 euros for a new tooth. State-sponsored polls reveal a small majority for staying in the EU. Ask Swedes what they would do if Britain left, however, and it’s a different story.

In April a poll by TNS Sifo, Sweden’s biggest polling company, found more people in favour of leaving than remaining if Britain voted for Brexit. Mr Lundgren said: “I think Sweden may fall. The Netherlands has also threatened a referendum if Brexit happens. Denmark will also go for a referendum and so will the Czech Republic.

I had been thinking the first "out" move would come in Germany or France. Others have been seeing Spain as a possible. But a Nordic Bloc! Wow, that could put a kind of seawall around Europe. But those of you who are able, please read the long story linked. It raises some additional departure possibilities for the first time.

And, besides, there are lots of fun cartoons!

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

While the leftist vultures are sorting out how they'd like to pick Britain's bones, from an unexpected quarter comes a blockbuster that has sales of Depends soaring in European capitals!

No, I didn't see this coming....

'Brexit EARTHQUAKE': EU fatcats' fears as Swedish MEP suggests 'UK-Nordic trading bloc'

'Brexit EARTHQUAKE': EU fatcats' fears as Swedish MEP suggests 'UK-Nordic trading bloc'
SPECIAL REPORT: COMPLACENT politicians in Brussels once scoffed at the idea of Britain turning its back on the EU because they did not believe it would ever happen.

But as one put it last night: “They’ve stopped laughing now.” Across Brussels the talk is of Brexit and the political “earthquake” which a UK vote to Leave would cause. MEPs discussed the implications for Europe as a whole and for their countries individually, with the 750-strong European Parliament enjoying what is potentially its last weekend united with the UK.

Swedish MEP Peter Lundgren said Denmark and Sweden were already “on the brink” of quitting, suggesting that should the UK leave, a “Nordic trading bloc” led by Britain could be born. Sweden has been sticking by its EU commitments, but barely. It’s little wonder. Sweden now has the highest level of non-EU immigration per capita.

And while newcomers are extended free health care and a five-euro flat fee for dental care, the elderly have seen their state pensions cut and must still pay 400 euros for a new tooth. State-sponsored polls reveal a small majority for staying in the EU. Ask Swedes what they would do if Britain left, however, and it’s a different story.

In April a poll by TNS Sifo, Sweden’s biggest polling company, found more people in favour of leaving than remaining if Britain voted for Brexit. Mr Lundgren said: “I think Sweden may fall. The Netherlands has also threatened a referendum if Brexit happens. Denmark will also go for a referendum and so will the Czech Republic.

I had been thinking the first "out" move would come in Germany or France. Others have been seeing Spain as a possible. But a Nordic Bloc! Wow, that could put a kind of seawall around Europe. But those of you who are able, please read the long story linked. It raises some additional departure possibilities for the first time.

And, besides, there are lots of fun cartoons!

I think many others would be interested in joining a Nordic Bloc, all Nordic people would be interested in joining.

Spain are having their General Election today, they're counting the votes now, 97% counted, who knows what the Government is after this.

With 97% of the votes counted, the PP (Conservatives) are predicted to win 137 seats in the 350-seat parliament and the PSOE (Socialists) 85, Unidos Podemos (Communist) will win 71 and Ciudadanos (a new Conservative party) 32.

 

[B. Kidd]

In deference to the globalist mantra............the new one may be "act locally, think locally....".

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

In deference to the globalist mantra............the new one may be "act locally, think locally....".

All politics is local and all politics should be about three things essentially, Family, Community and Nation.

Fuck Globalism, Fuck Multiculturalism.

Long Live Nation States, Long Live Patriotism.

 

[B. Kidd]

In deference to the globalist mantra............the new one may be "act locally, think locally....".

All politics is local and all politics should be about three things essentially, Family, Community and Nation.

Fuck Globalism, Fuck Multiculturalism.

Long Live Nation States, Long Live Patriotism.

Convince U.S.Gov. and we might avoid bondage.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

In deference to the globalist mantra............the new one may be "act locally, think locally....".

All politics is local and all politics should be about three things essentially, Family, Community and Nation.

Fuck Globalism, Fuck Multiculturalism.

Long Live Nation States, Long Live Patriotism.

Convince U.S.Gov. and we might avoid bondage.

 

[boedicca]

The solution for Europe is to abolish the political union Big Government unelected bureaucrat nonsense and to have Free Trade, open borders for people with valid European passports. The details of a common currency would have to be worked out so that it just didn't turn into wealthier countries bailing out poorer ones.

 

[montelatici]

The solution for Europe is to abolish the political union Big Government unelected bureaucrat nonsense and to have Free Trade, open borders for people with valid European passports. The details of a common currency would have to be worked out so that it just didn't turn into wealthier countries bailing out poorer ones.

The whole idea of a strong EU is to have, like in the U.S., a federal systems which fiscally benefits the poorer states. That's why the U.S. is the strongest union in the world.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

The solution for Europe is to abolish the political union Big Government unelected bureaucrat nonsense and to have Free Trade, open borders for people with valid European passports. The details of a common currency would have to be worked out so that it just didn't turn into wealthier countries bailing out poorer ones.

This is exactly what we anti-EU Crowd want and we're going to get it, we're going to win.

We're not going to allow the EU to destroy our beloved Continent and with it all of our collective individual nations, each with their unique and wonderful Culture and Heritage.

 

[boedicca]

The solution for Europe is to abolish the political union Big Government unelected bureaucrat nonsense and to have Free Trade, open borders for people with valid European passports. The details of a common currency would have to be worked out so that it just didn't turn into wealthier countries bailing out poorer ones.

The whole idea of a strong EU is to have, like in the U.S., a federal systems which fiscally benefits the poorer states. That's why the U.S. is the strongest union in the world.

Uh, the reason the U.S. formed was not to redistribute income from wealthier states to poorer ones, bub. And that reasoning isn't working out too well for the EU.

 

[B. Kidd]

The solution for Europe is to abolish the political union Big Government unelected bureaucrat nonsense and to have Free Trade, open borders for people with valid European passports. The details of a common currency would have to be worked out so that it just didn't turn into wealthier countries bailing out poorer ones.

The whole idea of a strong EU is to have, like in the U.S., a federal systems which fiscally benefits the poorer states. That's why the U.S. is the strongest union in the world.

Too bad they departed from the purely economic and morphed into the ultra-political realm. On Monday, it's either gonna be buy...buy...buy!, or bye..bye...bye! At least for the short term, anyways.

 

[Zander]

Spain, Greece, Italy, Austria, the Netherlands, the Czech Republic, and France will all see huge increases in anti-EU sentiment and will hold referendums.

Globalism, multiculturalism, and political correctness are ideas that are coming to an ignominious end.

 

[montelatici]

The solution for Europe is to abolish the political union Big Government unelected bureaucrat nonsense and to have Free Trade, open borders for people with valid European passports. The details of a common currency would have to be worked out so that it just didn't turn into wealthier countries bailing out poorer ones.

The whole idea of a strong EU is to have, like in the U.S., a federal systems which fiscally benefits the poorer states. That's why the U.S. is the strongest union in the world.

Uh, the reason the U.S. formed was not to redistribute income from wealthier states to poorer ones, bub. And that reasoning isn't working out too well for the EU.

Besides seeking independence, that's exactly what the U.S. was formed for. What did the Tennessee Valley Authority do for New York state, you moron.

 

[montelatici]

Spain, Greece, Italy, Austria, the Netherlands, the Czech Republic, and France will all see huge increases in anti-EU sentiment and will hold referendums.

Globalism, multiculturalism, and political correctness are ideas that are coming to an ignominious end.

No more than anti-US sentiment in Texas, Alabama and other states filled with morons.

 

[boedicca]

The solution for Europe is to abolish the political union Big Government unelected bureaucrat nonsense and to have Free Trade, open borders for people with valid European passports. The details of a common currency would have to be worked out so that it just didn't turn into wealthier countries bailing out poorer ones.

The whole idea of a strong EU is to have, like in the U.S., a federal systems which fiscally benefits the poorer states. That's why the U.S. is the strongest union in the world.

Uh, the reason the U.S. formed was not to redistribute income from wealthier states to poorer ones, bub. And that reasoning isn't working out too well for the EU.

Besides seeking independence, that's exactly what the U.S. was formed for. What did the Tennessee Valley Authority do for New York state, you moron.

The Tennessee Valley Authority was part of the original debate when the Constitution was drafted? Can you point out what section of the Federalist Papers covers this?

 

[B. Kidd]

Spain, Greece, Italy, Austria, the Netherlands, the Czech Republic, and France will all see huge increases in anti-EU sentiment and will hold referendums.

Globalism, multiculturalism, and political correctness are ideas that are coming to an ignominious end.

According to this article, the following eight countries may seek referendums............


Civil Uprising Escalates As 8th EU Nation Threatens Referendum | Zero Hedge

 

[william the wie]

The international debt and commodity markets run on the USD and since the dollar and Yen are appreciating the real earthquake has not begun.

 

[montelatici]

The solution for Europe is to abolish the political union Big Government unelected bureaucrat nonsense and to have Free Trade, open borders for people with valid European passports. The details of a common currency would have to be worked out so that it just didn't turn into wealthier countries bailing out poorer ones.

The whole idea of a strong EU is to have, like in the U.S., a federal systems which fiscally benefits the poorer states. That's why the U.S. is the strongest union in the world.

Uh, the reason the U.S. formed was not to redistribute income from wealthier states to poorer ones, bub. And that reasoning isn't working out too well for the EU.

Besides seeking independence, that's exactly what the U.S. was formed for. What did the Tennessee Valley Authority do for New York state, you moron.

The Tennessee Valley Authority was part of the original debate when the Constitution was drafted? Can you point out what section of the Federalist Papers covers this?

The U.S. redistributes wealth from the wealthy states to the poorer states, and that is why the U.S. is successful. In its most basic form, early on, this redistribution of wealth early on could be seen with the military of a large state like New York which contributed far more than Delaware in the War of Independence. But you morons, just don't get it.

The Federalist Papers : No. 4

"One government can collect and avail itself of the talents and experience of the ablest men, in whatever part of the Union they may be found. It can move on uniform principles of policy. It can harmonize, assimilate, and protect the several parts and members, and extend the benefit of its foresight and precautions to each. In the formation of treaties, it will regard the interest of the whole, and the particular interests of the parts as connected with that of the whole. It can apply the resources and power of the whole to the defense of any particular part, and that more easily and expeditiously than State governments or separate confederacies can possibly do, for want of concert and unity of system. It can place the militia under one plan of discipline, and, by putting their officers in a proper line of subordination to the Chief Magistrate, will, as it were, consolidate them into one corps, and thereby render them more efficient than if divided into thirteen or into three or four distinct independent companies.

What would the militia of Britain be if the English militia obeyed the government of England, if the Scotch militia obeyed the government of Scotland, and if the Welsh militia obeyed the government of Wales? Suppose an invasion; would those three governments (if they agreed at all) be able, with all their respective forces, to operate against the enemy so effectually as the single government of Great Britain would?

We have heard much of the fleets of Britain, and the time may come, if we are wise, when the fleets of America may engage attention. But if one national government, had not so regulated the navigation of Britain as to make it a nursery for seamen--if one national government had not called forth all the national means and materials for forming fleets, their prowess and their thunder would never have been celebrated. Let England have its navigation and fleet--let Scotland have its navigation and fleet--let Wales have its navigation and fleet--let Ireland have its navigation and fleet--let those four of the constituent parts of the British empire be be under four independent governments, and it is easy to perceive how soon they would each dwindle into comparative insignificance."

Apply these facts to our own case. Leave America divided into thirteen or, if you please, into three or four independent governments--what armies could they raise and pay--what fleets could they ever hope to have? If one was attacked, would the others fly to its succor, and spend their blood and money in its defense? Would there be no danger of their being flattered into neutrality by its specious promises, or seduced by a too great fondness for peace to decline hazarding their tranquillity and present safety for the sake of neighbors, of whom perhaps they have been jealous, and whose importance they are content to see diminished? Although such conduct would not be wise, it would, nevertheless, be natural. The history of the states of Greece, and of other countries, abounds with such instances, and it is not improbable that what has so often happened would, under similar circumstances, happen again.

But admit that they might be willing to help the invaded State or confederacy. How, and when, and in what proportion shall aids of men and money be afforded? Who shall command the allied armies, and from which of them shall he receive his orders? Who shall settle the terms of peace, and in case of disputes what umpire shall decide between them and compel acquiescence? Various difficulties and inconveniences would be inseparable from such a situation; whereas one government, watching over the general and common interests, and combining and directing the powers and resources of the whole, would be free from all these embarrassments, and conduce far more to the safety of the people.

But whatever may be our situation, whether firmly united under one national government, or split into a number of confederacies, certain it is, that foreign nations will know and view it exactly as it is; and they will act toward us accordingly. If they see that our national government is efficient and well administered, our trade prudently regulated, our militia properly organized and disciplined, our resources and finances discreetly managed, our credit re-established, our people free, contented, and united, they will be much more disposed to cultivate our friendship than provoke our resentment. If, on the other hand, they find us either destitute of an effectual government (each State doing right or wrong, as to its rulers may seem convenient), or split into three or four independent and probably discordant republics or confederacies, one inclining to Britain, another to France, and a third to Spain, and perhaps played off against each other by the three, what a poor, pitiful figure will America make in their eyes! How liable would she become not only to their contempt but to their outrage, and how soon would dear-bought experience proclaim that when a people or family so divide, it never fails to be against themselves."

The Avalon Project : The Federalist Papers No. 4

 

[boedicca]

The solution for Europe is to abolish the political union Big Government unelected bureaucrat nonsense and to have Free Trade, open borders for people with valid European passports. The details of a common currency would have to be worked out so that it just didn't turn into wealthier countries bailing out poorer ones.

The whole idea of a strong EU is to have, like in the U.S., a federal systems which fiscally benefits the poorer states. That's why the U.S. is the strongest union in the world.

Uh, the reason the U.S. formed was not to redistribute income from wealthier states to poorer ones, bub. And that reasoning isn't working out too well for the EU.

Besides seeking independence, that's exactly what the U.S. was formed for. What did the Tennessee Valley Authority do for New York state, you moron.

The Tennessee Valley Authority was part of the original debate when the Constitution was drafted? Can you point out what section of the Federalist Papers covers this?

The U.S. redistributes wealth from the wealthy states to the poorer states, and that is why the U.S. is successful. In its most basic form, early on, this redistribution of wealth early on could be seen with the military of a large state like New York which contributed far more than Delaware in the War of Independence. But you morons, just don't get it.

The Federalist Papers : No. 4

"One government can collect and avail itself of the talents and experience of the ablest men, in whatever part of the Union they may be found. It can move on uniform principles of policy. It can harmonize, assimilate, and protect the several parts and members, and extend the benefit of its foresight and precautions to each. In the formation of treaties, it will regard the interest of the whole, and the particular interests of the parts as connected with that of the whole. It can apply the resources and power of the whole to the defense of any particular part, and that more easily and expeditiously than State governments or separate confederacies can possibly do, for want of concert and unity of system. It can place the militia under one plan of discipline, and, by putting their officers in a proper line of subordination to the Chief Magistrate, will, as it were, consolidate them into one corps, and thereby render them more efficient than if divided into thirteen or into three or four distinct independent companies.

What would the militia of Britain be if the English militia obeyed the government of England, if the Scotch militia obeyed the government of Scotland, and if the Welsh militia obeyed the government of Wales? Suppose an invasion; would those three governments (if they agreed at all) be able, with all their respective forces, to operate against the enemy so effectually as the single government of Great Britain would?

We have heard much of the fleets of Britain, and the time may come, if we are wise, when the fleets of America may engage attention. But if one national government, had not so regulated the navigation of Britain as to make it a nursery for seamen--if one national government had not called forth all the national means and materials for forming fleets, their prowess and their thunder would never have been celebrated. Let England have its navigation and fleet--let Scotland have its navigation and fleet--let Wales have its navigation and fleet--let Ireland have its navigation and fleet--let those four of the constituent parts of the British empire be be under four independent governments, and it is easy to perceive how soon they would each dwindle into comparative insignificance."

Apply these facts to our own case. Leave America divided into thirteen or, if you please, into three or four independent governments--what armies could they raise and pay--what fleets could they ever hope to have? If one was attacked, would the others fly to its succor, and spend their blood and money in its defense? Would there be no danger of their being flattered into neutrality by its specious promises, or seduced by a too great fondness for peace to decline hazarding their tranquillity and present safety for the sake of neighbors, of whom perhaps they have been jealous, and whose importance they are content to see diminished? Although such conduct would not be wise, it would, nevertheless, be natural. The history of the states of Greece, and of other countries, abounds with such instances, and it is not improbable that what has so often happened would, under similar circumstances, happen again.

But admit that they might be willing to help the invaded State or confederacy. How, and when, and in what proportion shall aids of men and money be afforded? Who shall command the allied armies, and from which of them shall he receive his orders? Who shall settle the terms of peace, and in case of disputes what umpire shall decide between them and compel acquiescence? Various difficulties and inconveniences would be inseparable from such a situation; whereas one government, watching over the general and common interests, and combining and directing the powers and resources of the whole, would be free from all these embarrassments, and conduce far more to the safety of the people.

But whatever may be our situation, whether firmly united under one national government, or split into a number of confederacies, certain it is, that foreign nations will know and view it exactly as it is; and they will act toward us accordingly. If they see that our national government is efficient and well administered, our trade prudently regulated, our militia properly organized and disciplined, our resources and finances discreetly managed, our credit re-established, our people free, contented, and united, they will be much more disposed to cultivate our friendship than provoke our resentment. If, on the other hand, they find us either destitute of an effectual government (each State doing right or wrong, as to its rulers may seem convenient), or split into three or four independent and probably discordant republics or confederacies, one inclining to Britain, another to France, and a third to Spain, and perhaps played off against each other by the three, what a poor, pitiful figure will America make in their eyes! How liable would she become not only to their contempt but to their outrage, and how soon would dear-bought experience proclaim that when a people or family so divide, it never fails to be against themselves."

The Avalon Project : The Federalist Papers No. 4

Uh, the part you put in bold involved helping another state that has been INVADED. It has to do with National Defense, not income redistribution.

Try again.

 

[montelatici]

Exactly, income distribution. You think Defense is free. LOL You moron.