Under siege, for-profit colleges cry foul over new federal rules

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IMPORTANT POINT: "Students at for-profit institutions represent only 11% of college students but make up 44% of students who default on their loans"
WASHINGTON


After trying for years to tighten the rules on for-profit colleges, the Department of Education finally enacted regulations on the industry this summer. But the fight’s not over.

A month after new rules went into effect, the department faces continuing push-back from the colleges, and Republican lawmakers as well.

0724%20local%20profitcollege1

ITT Technical Institute is a for-profit institute in Boise, Idaho. It is headquartered in Indiana. Chris Butler Idaho Statesman
The regulations require for-profit colleges, such as prominent names like the University of Phoenix and ITT Tech, to prove that students can find “gainful employment” after finishing school.

The intent is to separate credible programs from those that weigh students down with significant debt for degrees that end up being worth little. Colleges are now asked to show that the average student’s annual loan payment is not more than 20 percent of the student’s discretionary income after graduation.

If the schools don’t meet the standard, they risk losing their federal financial aid. Public and private nonprofit colleges are not required to prove that their students meet such a standard.

For the Education Department and others that have spent years fighting to implement the regulations, it’s an important step toward cracking down on an industry that has been criticized for taking advantage of students.

“It’s a big issue,” said Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn. “They wind up in serious economic difficulty. With high debt, they default. They don’t come out with a meaningful education or degree or certificate that allows them to be gainfully employed.”

The federal government has been cracking down on for-profit schools. In April, the Education Department fined the Corinthian College chain $30 million for overstating its job placement figures.Corinthian closed in May.

The University of Phoenix, meanwhile, is under investigation by the Federal Trade Commission, for possible deceptive practices related to marketing, costs, recruiting and other aspects of its business. Phoenix, popular among veterans, receives large amounts of tuition and costs through the GI Bill.

A 2012 report from the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee found that for-profit colleges are significant recipients of federal student aid.

“During the 2009-10 academic year, the for-profit sector collected $32 billion, out of the total $130 billion in loans and grants disbursed under Title IV of the Higher Education Act,”it stated.

Title IV is the major source of federal student aid.

THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE NEEDIEST ONES ARE OFTEN NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM. WE DON’T WANT PEOPLE’S FINANCIAL SITUATIONS TO BE WORSE AS A RESULT OF HAVING PURSUED HIGHER EDUCATION.

Michelle Cooper, president of the nonpartisan Institute for Higher Education Policy, speaking of for-profit college students

For-profit colleges say the new Department of Education rule is unfair and singles them out, while public and private nonprofit universities continue to increase tuition and leave students in significant debt, an average of $28,400 per student, according to The Institute for College Access and Success.

“It doesn’t apply to all programs and all students at all institutions. It applies to, essentially, us,” said Noah Black, vice president of public affairs for the Association of Private Sector Colleges and Universities, a trade group that represents for-profit schools.

Several Republicans have criticized the regulations as expensive and unauthorized. They also contend that regulating for-profit colleges should be the role of Congress, not the Obama administration. Appropriations bills drafted by the House of Representatives and the Senate include provisions to reverse the regulations.

“It’s better handled in the higher education reauthorization than it would be in some other way,” said Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., chairman of the Senate subcommittee responsible for education appropriations.

The Department of Education began pushing the “gainful employment” regulation in earnest in 2009. But the industry pushed back. When a version of the regulation was drafted in 2011, the for-profit colleges marketing association sued the department, claiming the new rules had been arbitrarily chosen.

A federal judge sided with the colleges, and the administration went back to the drawing board. New regulations came out last year and for-profit colleges sued again. This time the courts ruled for the department and the new regulations went into effect July 1. The for-profit colleges plan to appeal.

Black of the for-profit college marketing group claimed that if the “gainful employment” regulation was applied to all colleges and not just for-profits, some programs at well-known schools would not currently meet the standards, according to the group’s lawsuit against the Department of Education. It cites as examples a law degree from George Washington University or a bachelor’s degree in social work from the University of Texas.

THE WAY THE RULES AND REGULATIONS (ON FOR-PROFIT COLLEGES) HAVE BEEN FORMULATED IS EXTREMELY UNFAIR AND DOESN’T CREATE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

Richard Vedder, director of the Center for College Affordability and Productivity

But opponents say that for-profit colleges deserve special scrutiny because they saddle more vulnerable students with more debt and do less to improve their futures. According to the Department of Education, more than 80 percent of for-profit students need to take out federal loans to pay for college, while less than half of students at public colleges do.

The degree often costs more, with the average tuition at a for-profit school measuring four times the tuition at a community college and nearly double the in-state tuition at a public four-year university, federal education data shows.

And while costly, education officials say that it typically doesn’t yield strong results on the job market. Students with bachelor’s degrees from for-profit schools were 22 percent less likely to hear back from employers than job applicants with similar degrees from non-selective public colleges, a study from the National Bureau of Economic Research found.

Though students at for-profit institutions represent only 11 percent of college students, they make up 44 percent of students who default on their loans, according to the data.

For-profit schools are “saying it’s not fair, but I actually see this as a counterpoint: If you make your programs so good that students who enroll do well, then that’s the biggest selling point,” said Michelle Cooper, president of the nonpartisan Institute for Higher Education Policy.

Students who choose for-profit colleges are more likely to be older, work a full-time job or have a family they need to support. They’re usually attracted to the schools because of the flexible class schedule, easy registration and specific programs that don’t require general education requirements. Often, they’re the first in their families to attend college.

The colleges argue that serving these nontraditional students makes it more difficult to judge the schools by traditional measures of success – graduation rates and starting salaries, for example – since their students face different obstacles than the typical 18-year-old who enrolls at a two- or four-year institution.

Joshua Gaskins, 26, of Hanahan, S.C., grew up in a family where no one finished high school. He said his parents told him: “I don’t want you working a dead-end job. I want you to do something with your life.”

IT’S TRULY MIND-BOGGLING THAT HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE STILL FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL TO PROTECT SCHOOLS THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF STUDENTS AND LEAVE TAXPAYERS WITH THE BILL.

U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan
Under siege for-profit colleges cry foul over new federal rules McClatchy DC
 
IMPORTANT POINT: "Students at for-profit institutions represent only 11% of college students but make up 44% of students who default on their loans"
WASHINGTON


After trying for years to tighten the rules on for-profit colleges, the Department of Education finally enacted regulations on the industry this summer. But the fight’s not over.

A month after new rules went into effect, the department faces continuing push-back from the colleges, and Republican lawmakers as well.

0724%20local%20profitcollege1

ITT Technical Institute is a for-profit institute in Boise, Idaho. It is headquartered in Indiana. Chris Butler Idaho Statesman
The regulations require for-profit colleges, such as prominent names like the University of Phoenix and ITT Tech, to prove that students can find “gainful employment” after finishing school.

The intent is to separate credible programs from those that weigh students down with significant debt for degrees that end up being worth little. Colleges are now asked to show that the average student’s annual loan payment is not more than 20 percent of the student’s discretionary income after graduation.

If the schools don’t meet the standard, they risk losing their federal financial aid. Public and private nonprofit colleges are not required to prove that their students meet such a standard.

For the Education Department and others that have spent years fighting to implement the regulations, it’s an important step toward cracking down on an industry that has been criticized for taking advantage of students.

“It’s a big issue,” said Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn. “They wind up in serious economic difficulty. With high debt, they default. They don’t come out with a meaningful education or degree or certificate that allows them to be gainfully employed.”

The federal government has been cracking down on for-profit schools. In April, the Education Department fined the Corinthian College chain $30 million for overstating its job placement figures.Corinthian closed in May.

The University of Phoenix, meanwhile, is under investigation by the Federal Trade Commission, for possible deceptive practices related to marketing, costs, recruiting and other aspects of its business. Phoenix, popular among veterans, receives large amounts of tuition and costs through the GI Bill.

A 2012 report from the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee found that for-profit colleges are significant recipients of federal student aid.

“During the 2009-10 academic year, the for-profit sector collected $32 billion, out of the total $130 billion in loans and grants disbursed under Title IV of the Higher Education Act,”it stated.

Title IV is the major source of federal student aid.

THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE NEEDIEST ONES ARE OFTEN NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM. WE DON’T WANT PEOPLE’S FINANCIAL SITUATIONS TO BE WORSE AS A RESULT OF HAVING PURSUED HIGHER EDUCATION.

Michelle Cooper, president of the nonpartisan Institute for Higher Education Policy, speaking of for-profit college students

For-profit colleges say the new Department of Education rule is unfair and singles them out, while public and private nonprofit universities continue to increase tuition and leave students in significant debt, an average of $28,400 per student, according to The Institute for College Access and Success.

“It doesn’t apply to all programs and all students at all institutions. It applies to, essentially, us,” said Noah Black, vice president of public affairs for the Association of Private Sector Colleges and Universities, a trade group that represents for-profit schools.

Several Republicans have criticized the regulations as expensive and unauthorized. They also contend that regulating for-profit colleges should be the role of Congress, not the Obama administration. Appropriations bills drafted by the House of Representatives and the Senate include provisions to reverse the regulations.

“It’s better handled in the higher education reauthorization than it would be in some other way,” said Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., chairman of the Senate subcommittee responsible for education appropriations.

The Department of Education began pushing the “gainful employment” regulation in earnest in 2009. But the industry pushed back. When a version of the regulation was drafted in 2011, the for-profit colleges marketing association sued the department, claiming the new rules had been arbitrarily chosen.

A federal judge sided with the colleges, and the administration went back to the drawing board. New regulations came out last year and for-profit colleges sued again. This time the courts ruled for the department and the new regulations went into effect July 1. The for-profit colleges plan to appeal.

Black of the for-profit college marketing group claimed that if the “gainful employment” regulation was applied to all colleges and not just for-profits, some programs at well-known schools would not currently meet the standards, according to the group’s lawsuit against the Department of Education. It cites as examples a law degree from George Washington University or a bachelor’s degree in social work from the University of Texas.

THE WAY THE RULES AND REGULATIONS (ON FOR-PROFIT COLLEGES) HAVE BEEN FORMULATED IS EXTREMELY UNFAIR AND DOESN’T CREATE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

Richard Vedder, director of the Center for College Affordability and Productivity

But opponents say that for-profit colleges deserve special scrutiny because they saddle more vulnerable students with more debt and do less to improve their futures. According to the Department of Education, more than 80 percent of for-profit students need to take out federal loans to pay for college, while less than half of students at public colleges do.

The degree often costs more, with the average tuition at a for-profit school measuring four times the tuition at a community college and nearly double the in-state tuition at a public four-year university, federal education data shows.

And while costly, education officials say that it typically doesn’t yield strong results on the job market. Students with bachelor’s degrees from for-profit schools were 22 percent less likely to hear back from employers than job applicants with similar degrees from non-selective public colleges, a study from the National Bureau of Economic Research found.

Though students at for-profit institutions represent only 11 percent of college students, they make up 44 percent of students who default on their loans, according to the data.

For-profit schools are “saying it’s not fair, but I actually see this as a counterpoint: If you make your programs so good that students who enroll do well, then that’s the biggest selling point,” said Michelle Cooper, president of the nonpartisan Institute for Higher Education Policy.

Students who choose for-profit colleges are more likely to be older, work a full-time job or have a family they need to support. They’re usually attracted to the schools because of the flexible class schedule, easy registration and specific programs that don’t require general education requirements. Often, they’re the first in their families to attend college.

The colleges argue that serving these nontraditional students makes it more difficult to judge the schools by traditional measures of success – graduation rates and starting salaries, for example – since their students face different obstacles than the typical 18-year-old who enrolls at a two- or four-year institution.

Joshua Gaskins, 26, of Hanahan, S.C., grew up in a family where no one finished high school. He said his parents told him: “I don’t want you working a dead-end job. I want you to do something with your life.”

IT’S TRULY MIND-BOGGLING THAT HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE STILL FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL TO PROTECT SCHOOLS THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF STUDENTS AND LEAVE TAXPAYERS WITH THE BILL.

U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan
Under siege for-profit colleges cry foul over new federal rules McClatchy DC
My concern is that the federal government should be going after ALL colleges and universities for doing the same thing...That is saddling students with crushing debt after issuing nearly useless degrees.
For every grad that works in an industry for which they were majoring, there are probably several times that many who are floundering about trying to make ends meet working at some obscure occupation which has nothing to do what they learned( term used loosely) in college.
 
IMPORTANT POINT: "Students at for-profit institutions represent only 11% of college students but make up 44% of students who default on their loans"
WASHINGTON


After trying for years to tighten the rules on for-profit colleges, the Department of Education finally enacted regulations on the industry this summer. But the fight’s not over.

A month after new rules went into effect, the department faces continuing push-back from the colleges, and Republican lawmakers as well.

0724%20local%20profitcollege1

ITT Technical Institute is a for-profit institute in Boise, Idaho. It is headquartered in Indiana. Chris Butler Idaho Statesman
The regulations require for-profit colleges, such as prominent names like the University of Phoenix and ITT Tech, to prove that students can find “gainful employment” after finishing school.

The intent is to separate credible programs from those that weigh students down with significant debt for degrees that end up being worth little. Colleges are now asked to show that the average student’s annual loan payment is not more than 20 percent of the student’s discretionary income after graduation.

If the schools don’t meet the standard, they risk losing their federal financial aid. Public and private nonprofit colleges are not required to prove that their students meet such a standard.

For the Education Department and others that have spent years fighting to implement the regulations, it’s an important step toward cracking down on an industry that has been criticized for taking advantage of students.

“It’s a big issue,” said Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn. “They wind up in serious economic difficulty. With high debt, they default. They don’t come out with a meaningful education or degree or certificate that allows them to be gainfully employed.”

The federal government has been cracking down on for-profit schools. In April, the Education Department fined the Corinthian College chain $30 million for overstating its job placement figures.Corinthian closed in May.

The University of Phoenix, meanwhile, is under investigation by the Federal Trade Commission, for possible deceptive practices related to marketing, costs, recruiting and other aspects of its business. Phoenix, popular among veterans, receives large amounts of tuition and costs through the GI Bill.

A 2012 report from the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee found that for-profit colleges are significant recipients of federal student aid.

“During the 2009-10 academic year, the for-profit sector collected $32 billion, out of the total $130 billion in loans and grants disbursed under Title IV of the Higher Education Act,”it stated.

Title IV is the major source of federal student aid.

THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE NEEDIEST ONES ARE OFTEN NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM. WE DON’T WANT PEOPLE’S FINANCIAL SITUATIONS TO BE WORSE AS A RESULT OF HAVING PURSUED HIGHER EDUCATION.

Michelle Cooper, president of the nonpartisan Institute for Higher Education Policy, speaking of for-profit college students

For-profit colleges say the new Department of Education rule is unfair and singles them out, while public and private nonprofit universities continue to increase tuition and leave students in significant debt, an average of $28,400 per student, according to The Institute for College Access and Success.

“It doesn’t apply to all programs and all students at all institutions. It applies to, essentially, us,” said Noah Black, vice president of public affairs for the Association of Private Sector Colleges and Universities, a trade group that represents for-profit schools.

Several Republicans have criticized the regulations as expensive and unauthorized. They also contend that regulating for-profit colleges should be the role of Congress, not the Obama administration. Appropriations bills drafted by the House of Representatives and the Senate include provisions to reverse the regulations.

“It’s better handled in the higher education reauthorization than it would be in some other way,” said Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., chairman of the Senate subcommittee responsible for education appropriations.

The Department of Education began pushing the “gainful employment” regulation in earnest in 2009. But the industry pushed back. When a version of the regulation was drafted in 2011, the for-profit colleges marketing association sued the department, claiming the new rules had been arbitrarily chosen.

A federal judge sided with the colleges, and the administration went back to the drawing board. New regulations came out last year and for-profit colleges sued again. This time the courts ruled for the department and the new regulations went into effect July 1. The for-profit colleges plan to appeal.

Black of the for-profit college marketing group claimed that if the “gainful employment” regulation was applied to all colleges and not just for-profits, some programs at well-known schools would not currently meet the standards, according to the group’s lawsuit against the Department of Education. It cites as examples a law degree from George Washington University or a bachelor’s degree in social work from the University of Texas.

THE WAY THE RULES AND REGULATIONS (ON FOR-PROFIT COLLEGES) HAVE BEEN FORMULATED IS EXTREMELY UNFAIR AND DOESN’T CREATE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

Richard Vedder, director of the Center for College Affordability and Productivity

But opponents say that for-profit colleges deserve special scrutiny because they saddle more vulnerable students with more debt and do less to improve their futures. According to the Department of Education, more than 80 percent of for-profit students need to take out federal loans to pay for college, while less than half of students at public colleges do.

The degree often costs more, with the average tuition at a for-profit school measuring four times the tuition at a community college and nearly double the in-state tuition at a public four-year university, federal education data shows.

And while costly, education officials say that it typically doesn’t yield strong results on the job market. Students with bachelor’s degrees from for-profit schools were 22 percent less likely to hear back from employers than job applicants with similar degrees from non-selective public colleges, a study from the National Bureau of Economic Research found.

Though students at for-profit institutions represent only 11 percent of college students, they make up 44 percent of students who default on their loans, according to the data.

For-profit schools are “saying it’s not fair, but I actually see this as a counterpoint: If you make your programs so good that students who enroll do well, then that’s the biggest selling point,” said Michelle Cooper, president of the nonpartisan Institute for Higher Education Policy.

Students who choose for-profit colleges are more likely to be older, work a full-time job or have a family they need to support. They’re usually attracted to the schools because of the flexible class schedule, easy registration and specific programs that don’t require general education requirements. Often, they’re the first in their families to attend college.

The colleges argue that serving these nontraditional students makes it more difficult to judge the schools by traditional measures of success – graduation rates and starting salaries, for example – since their students face different obstacles than the typical 18-year-old who enrolls at a two- or four-year institution.

Joshua Gaskins, 26, of Hanahan, S.C., grew up in a family where no one finished high school. He said his parents told him: “I don’t want you working a dead-end job. I want you to do something with your life.”

IT’S TRULY MIND-BOGGLING THAT HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE STILL FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL TO PROTECT SCHOOLS THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF STUDENTS AND LEAVE TAXPAYERS WITH THE BILL.

U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan
Under siege for-profit colleges cry foul over new federal rules McClatchy DC
My concern is that the federal government should be going after ALL colleges and universities for doing the same thing...That is saddling students with crushing debt after issuing nearly useless degrees.
For every grad that works in an industry for which they were majoring, there are probably several times that many who are floundering about trying to make ends meet working at some obscure occupation which has nothing to do what they learned( term used loosely) in college.
Err, for profit ones are the ones that need to be gone after the most, 11% of students attend them, but they make up 44% of students who default on their loans..
 
IMPORTANT POINT: "Students at for-profit institutions represent only 11% of college students but make up 44% of students who default on their loans"
WASHINGTON


After trying for years to tighten the rules on for-profit colleges, the Department of Education finally enacted regulations on the industry this summer. But the fight’s not over.

A month after new rules went into effect, the department faces continuing push-back from the colleges, and Republican lawmakers as well.

0724%20local%20profitcollege1

ITT Technical Institute is a for-profit institute in Boise, Idaho. It is headquartered in Indiana. Chris Butler Idaho Statesman
The regulations require for-profit colleges, such as prominent names like the University of Phoenix and ITT Tech, to prove that students can find “gainful employment” after finishing school.

The intent is to separate credible programs from those that weigh students down with significant debt for degrees that end up being worth little. Colleges are now asked to show that the average student’s annual loan payment is not more than 20 percent of the student’s discretionary income after graduation.

If the schools don’t meet the standard, they risk losing their federal financial aid. Public and private nonprofit colleges are not required to prove that their students meet such a standard.

For the Education Department and others that have spent years fighting to implement the regulations, it’s an important step toward cracking down on an industry that has been criticized for taking advantage of students.

“It’s a big issue,” said Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn. “They wind up in serious economic difficulty. With high debt, they default. They don’t come out with a meaningful education or degree or certificate that allows them to be gainfully employed.”

The federal government has been cracking down on for-profit schools. In April, the Education Department fined the Corinthian College chain $30 million for overstating its job placement figures.Corinthian closed in May.

The University of Phoenix, meanwhile, is under investigation by the Federal Trade Commission, for possible deceptive practices related to marketing, costs, recruiting and other aspects of its business. Phoenix, popular among veterans, receives large amounts of tuition and costs through the GI Bill.

A 2012 report from the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee found that for-profit colleges are significant recipients of federal student aid.

“During the 2009-10 academic year, the for-profit sector collected $32 billion, out of the total $130 billion in loans and grants disbursed under Title IV of the Higher Education Act,”it stated.

Title IV is the major source of federal student aid.

THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE NEEDIEST ONES ARE OFTEN NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM. WE DON’T WANT PEOPLE’S FINANCIAL SITUATIONS TO BE WORSE AS A RESULT OF HAVING PURSUED HIGHER EDUCATION.

Michelle Cooper, president of the nonpartisan Institute for Higher Education Policy, speaking of for-profit college students

For-profit colleges say the new Department of Education rule is unfair and singles them out, while public and private nonprofit universities continue to increase tuition and leave students in significant debt, an average of $28,400 per student, according to The Institute for College Access and Success.

“It doesn’t apply to all programs and all students at all institutions. It applies to, essentially, us,” said Noah Black, vice president of public affairs for the Association of Private Sector Colleges and Universities, a trade group that represents for-profit schools.

Several Republicans have criticized the regulations as expensive and unauthorized. They also contend that regulating for-profit colleges should be the role of Congress, not the Obama administration. Appropriations bills drafted by the House of Representatives and the Senate include provisions to reverse the regulations.

“It’s better handled in the higher education reauthorization than it would be in some other way,” said Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., chairman of the Senate subcommittee responsible for education appropriations.

The Department of Education began pushing the “gainful employment” regulation in earnest in 2009. But the industry pushed back. When a version of the regulation was drafted in 2011, the for-profit colleges marketing association sued the department, claiming the new rules had been arbitrarily chosen.

A federal judge sided with the colleges, and the administration went back to the drawing board. New regulations came out last year and for-profit colleges sued again. This time the courts ruled for the department and the new regulations went into effect July 1. The for-profit colleges plan to appeal.

Black of the for-profit college marketing group claimed that if the “gainful employment” regulation was applied to all colleges and not just for-profits, some programs at well-known schools would not currently meet the standards, according to the group’s lawsuit against the Department of Education. It cites as examples a law degree from George Washington University or a bachelor’s degree in social work from the University of Texas.

THE WAY THE RULES AND REGULATIONS (ON FOR-PROFIT COLLEGES) HAVE BEEN FORMULATED IS EXTREMELY UNFAIR AND DOESN’T CREATE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

Richard Vedder, director of the Center for College Affordability and Productivity

But opponents say that for-profit colleges deserve special scrutiny because they saddle more vulnerable students with more debt and do less to improve their futures. According to the Department of Education, more than 80 percent of for-profit students need to take out federal loans to pay for college, while less than half of students at public colleges do.

The degree often costs more, with the average tuition at a for-profit school measuring four times the tuition at a community college and nearly double the in-state tuition at a public four-year university, federal education data shows.

And while costly, education officials say that it typically doesn’t yield strong results on the job market. Students with bachelor’s degrees from for-profit schools were 22 percent less likely to hear back from employers than job applicants with similar degrees from non-selective public colleges, a study from the National Bureau of Economic Research found.

Though students at for-profit institutions represent only 11 percent of college students, they make up 44 percent of students who default on their loans, according to the data.

For-profit schools are “saying it’s not fair, but I actually see this as a counterpoint: If you make your programs so good that students who enroll do well, then that’s the biggest selling point,” said Michelle Cooper, president of the nonpartisan Institute for Higher Education Policy.

Students who choose for-profit colleges are more likely to be older, work a full-time job or have a family they need to support. They’re usually attracted to the schools because of the flexible class schedule, easy registration and specific programs that don’t require general education requirements. Often, they’re the first in their families to attend college.

The colleges argue that serving these nontraditional students makes it more difficult to judge the schools by traditional measures of success – graduation rates and starting salaries, for example – since their students face different obstacles than the typical 18-year-old who enrolls at a two- or four-year institution.

Joshua Gaskins, 26, of Hanahan, S.C., grew up in a family where no one finished high school. He said his parents told him: “I don’t want you working a dead-end job. I want you to do something with your life.”

IT’S TRULY MIND-BOGGLING THAT HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE STILL FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL TO PROTECT SCHOOLS THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF STUDENTS AND LEAVE TAXPAYERS WITH THE BILL.

U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan
Under siege for-profit colleges cry foul over new federal rules McClatchy DC
My concern is that the federal government should be going after ALL colleges and universities for doing the same thing...That is saddling students with crushing debt after issuing nearly useless degrees.
For every grad that works in an industry for which they were majoring, there are probably several times that many who are floundering about trying to make ends meet working at some obscure occupation which has nothing to do what they learned( term used loosely) in college.
Err, for profit ones are the ones that need to be gone after the most, 11% of students attend them, but they make up 44% of students who default on their loans..
There is no "most"....The law should be applied equally.....Is there a problem with that?
 
IMPORTANT POINT: "Students at for-profit institutions represent only 11% of college students but make up 44% of students who default on their loans"
WASHINGTON


After trying for years to tighten the rules on for-profit colleges, the Department of Education finally enacted regulations on the industry this summer. But the fight’s not over.

A month after new rules went into effect, the department faces continuing push-back from the colleges, and Republican lawmakers as well.

0724%20local%20profitcollege1

ITT Technical Institute is a for-profit institute in Boise, Idaho. It is headquartered in Indiana. Chris Butler Idaho Statesman
The regulations require for-profit colleges, such as prominent names like the University of Phoenix and ITT Tech, to prove that students can find “gainful employment” after finishing school.

The intent is to separate credible programs from those that weigh students down with significant debt for degrees that end up being worth little. Colleges are now asked to show that the average student’s annual loan payment is not more than 20 percent of the student’s discretionary income after graduation.

If the schools don’t meet the standard, they risk losing their federal financial aid. Public and private nonprofit colleges are not required to prove that their students meet such a standard.

For the Education Department and others that have spent years fighting to implement the regulations, it’s an important step toward cracking down on an industry that has been criticized for taking advantage of students.

“It’s a big issue,” said Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn. “They wind up in serious economic difficulty. With high debt, they default. They don’t come out with a meaningful education or degree or certificate that allows them to be gainfully employed.”

The federal government has been cracking down on for-profit schools. In April, the Education Department fined the Corinthian College chain $30 million for overstating its job placement figures.Corinthian closed in May.

The University of Phoenix, meanwhile, is under investigation by the Federal Trade Commission, for possible deceptive practices related to marketing, costs, recruiting and other aspects of its business. Phoenix, popular among veterans, receives large amounts of tuition and costs through the GI Bill.

A 2012 report from the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee found that for-profit colleges are significant recipients of federal student aid.

“During the 2009-10 academic year, the for-profit sector collected $32 billion, out of the total $130 billion in loans and grants disbursed under Title IV of the Higher Education Act,”it stated.

Title IV is the major source of federal student aid.

THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE NEEDIEST ONES ARE OFTEN NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM. WE DON’T WANT PEOPLE’S FINANCIAL SITUATIONS TO BE WORSE AS A RESULT OF HAVING PURSUED HIGHER EDUCATION.

Michelle Cooper, president of the nonpartisan Institute for Higher Education Policy, speaking of for-profit college students

For-profit colleges say the new Department of Education rule is unfair and singles them out, while public and private nonprofit universities continue to increase tuition and leave students in significant debt, an average of $28,400 per student, according to The Institute for College Access and Success.

“It doesn’t apply to all programs and all students at all institutions. It applies to, essentially, us,” said Noah Black, vice president of public affairs for the Association of Private Sector Colleges and Universities, a trade group that represents for-profit schools.

Several Republicans have criticized the regulations as expensive and unauthorized. They also contend that regulating for-profit colleges should be the role of Congress, not the Obama administration. Appropriations bills drafted by the House of Representatives and the Senate include provisions to reverse the regulations.

“It’s better handled in the higher education reauthorization than it would be in some other way,” said Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., chairman of the Senate subcommittee responsible for education appropriations.

The Department of Education began pushing the “gainful employment” regulation in earnest in 2009. But the industry pushed back. When a version of the regulation was drafted in 2011, the for-profit colleges marketing association sued the department, claiming the new rules had been arbitrarily chosen.

A federal judge sided with the colleges, and the administration went back to the drawing board. New regulations came out last year and for-profit colleges sued again. This time the courts ruled for the department and the new regulations went into effect July 1. The for-profit colleges plan to appeal.

Black of the for-profit college marketing group claimed that if the “gainful employment” regulation was applied to all colleges and not just for-profits, some programs at well-known schools would not currently meet the standards, according to the group’s lawsuit against the Department of Education. It cites as examples a law degree from George Washington University or a bachelor’s degree in social work from the University of Texas.

THE WAY THE RULES AND REGULATIONS (ON FOR-PROFIT COLLEGES) HAVE BEEN FORMULATED IS EXTREMELY UNFAIR AND DOESN’T CREATE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

Richard Vedder, director of the Center for College Affordability and Productivity

But opponents say that for-profit colleges deserve special scrutiny because they saddle more vulnerable students with more debt and do less to improve their futures. According to the Department of Education, more than 80 percent of for-profit students need to take out federal loans to pay for college, while less than half of students at public colleges do.

The degree often costs more, with the average tuition at a for-profit school measuring four times the tuition at a community college and nearly double the in-state tuition at a public four-year university, federal education data shows.

And while costly, education officials say that it typically doesn’t yield strong results on the job market. Students with bachelor’s degrees from for-profit schools were 22 percent less likely to hear back from employers than job applicants with similar degrees from non-selective public colleges, a study from the National Bureau of Economic Research found.

Though students at for-profit institutions represent only 11 percent of college students, they make up 44 percent of students who default on their loans, according to the data.

For-profit schools are “saying it’s not fair, but I actually see this as a counterpoint: If you make your programs so good that students who enroll do well, then that’s the biggest selling point,” said Michelle Cooper, president of the nonpartisan Institute for Higher Education Policy.

Students who choose for-profit colleges are more likely to be older, work a full-time job or have a family they need to support. They’re usually attracted to the schools because of the flexible class schedule, easy registration and specific programs that don’t require general education requirements. Often, they’re the first in their families to attend college.

The colleges argue that serving these nontraditional students makes it more difficult to judge the schools by traditional measures of success – graduation rates and starting salaries, for example – since their students face different obstacles than the typical 18-year-old who enrolls at a two- or four-year institution.

Joshua Gaskins, 26, of Hanahan, S.C., grew up in a family where no one finished high school. He said his parents told him: “I don’t want you working a dead-end job. I want you to do something with your life.”

IT’S TRULY MIND-BOGGLING THAT HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE STILL FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL TO PROTECT SCHOOLS THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF STUDENTS AND LEAVE TAXPAYERS WITH THE BILL.

U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan
Under siege for-profit colleges cry foul over new federal rules McClatchy DC
My concern is that the federal government should be going after ALL colleges and universities for doing the same thing...That is saddling students with crushing debt after issuing nearly useless degrees.
For every grad that works in an industry for which they were majoring, there are probably several times that many who are floundering about trying to make ends meet working at some obscure occupation which has nothing to do what they learned( term used loosely) in college.
Err, for profit ones are the ones that need to be gone after the most, 11% of students attend them, but they make up 44% of students who default on their loans..
There is no "most"....The law should be applied equally.....Is there a problem with that?
Public colleges are already regulated, for profit colleges have been getting away with shit for to long.
 
IMPORTANT POINT: "Students at for-profit institutions represent only 11% of college students but make up 44% of students who default on their loans"
WASHINGTON


After trying for years to tighten the rules on for-profit colleges, the Department of Education finally enacted regulations on the industry this summer. But the fight’s not over.

A month after new rules went into effect, the department faces continuing push-back from the colleges, and Republican lawmakers as well.

0724%20local%20profitcollege1

ITT Technical Institute is a for-profit institute in Boise, Idaho. It is headquartered in Indiana. Chris Butler Idaho Statesman
The regulations require for-profit colleges, such as prominent names like the University of Phoenix and ITT Tech, to prove that students can find “gainful employment” after finishing school.

The intent is to separate credible programs from those that weigh students down with significant debt for degrees that end up being worth little. Colleges are now asked to show that the average student’s annual loan payment is not more than 20 percent of the student’s discretionary income after graduation.

If the schools don’t meet the standard, they risk losing their federal financial aid. Public and private nonprofit colleges are not required to prove that their students meet such a standard.

For the Education Department and others that have spent years fighting to implement the regulations, it’s an important step toward cracking down on an industry that has been criticized for taking advantage of students.

“It’s a big issue,” said Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn. “They wind up in serious economic difficulty. With high debt, they default. They don’t come out with a meaningful education or degree or certificate that allows them to be gainfully employed.”

The federal government has been cracking down on for-profit schools. In April, the Education Department fined the Corinthian College chain $30 million for overstating its job placement figures.Corinthian closed in May.

The University of Phoenix, meanwhile, is under investigation by the Federal Trade Commission, for possible deceptive practices related to marketing, costs, recruiting and other aspects of its business. Phoenix, popular among veterans, receives large amounts of tuition and costs through the GI Bill.

A 2012 report from the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee found that for-profit colleges are significant recipients of federal student aid.

“During the 2009-10 academic year, the for-profit sector collected $32 billion, out of the total $130 billion in loans and grants disbursed under Title IV of the Higher Education Act,”it stated.

Title IV is the major source of federal student aid.

THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE NEEDIEST ONES ARE OFTEN NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM. WE DON’T WANT PEOPLE’S FINANCIAL SITUATIONS TO BE WORSE AS A RESULT OF HAVING PURSUED HIGHER EDUCATION.

Michelle Cooper, president of the nonpartisan Institute for Higher Education Policy, speaking of for-profit college students

For-profit colleges say the new Department of Education rule is unfair and singles them out, while public and private nonprofit universities continue to increase tuition and leave students in significant debt, an average of $28,400 per student, according to The Institute for College Access and Success.

“It doesn’t apply to all programs and all students at all institutions. It applies to, essentially, us,” said Noah Black, vice president of public affairs for the Association of Private Sector Colleges and Universities, a trade group that represents for-profit schools.

Several Republicans have criticized the regulations as expensive and unauthorized. They also contend that regulating for-profit colleges should be the role of Congress, not the Obama administration. Appropriations bills drafted by the House of Representatives and the Senate include provisions to reverse the regulations.

“It’s better handled in the higher education reauthorization than it would be in some other way,” said Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., chairman of the Senate subcommittee responsible for education appropriations.

The Department of Education began pushing the “gainful employment” regulation in earnest in 2009. But the industry pushed back. When a version of the regulation was drafted in 2011, the for-profit colleges marketing association sued the department, claiming the new rules had been arbitrarily chosen.

A federal judge sided with the colleges, and the administration went back to the drawing board. New regulations came out last year and for-profit colleges sued again. This time the courts ruled for the department and the new regulations went into effect July 1. The for-profit colleges plan to appeal.

Black of the for-profit college marketing group claimed that if the “gainful employment” regulation was applied to all colleges and not just for-profits, some programs at well-known schools would not currently meet the standards, according to the group’s lawsuit against the Department of Education. It cites as examples a law degree from George Washington University or a bachelor’s degree in social work from the University of Texas.

THE WAY THE RULES AND REGULATIONS (ON FOR-PROFIT COLLEGES) HAVE BEEN FORMULATED IS EXTREMELY UNFAIR AND DOESN’T CREATE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

Richard Vedder, director of the Center for College Affordability and Productivity

But opponents say that for-profit colleges deserve special scrutiny because they saddle more vulnerable students with more debt and do less to improve their futures. According to the Department of Education, more than 80 percent of for-profit students need to take out federal loans to pay for college, while less than half of students at public colleges do.

The degree often costs more, with the average tuition at a for-profit school measuring four times the tuition at a community college and nearly double the in-state tuition at a public four-year university, federal education data shows.

And while costly, education officials say that it typically doesn’t yield strong results on the job market. Students with bachelor’s degrees from for-profit schools were 22 percent less likely to hear back from employers than job applicants with similar degrees from non-selective public colleges, a study from the National Bureau of Economic Research found.

Though students at for-profit institutions represent only 11 percent of college students, they make up 44 percent of students who default on their loans, according to the data.

For-profit schools are “saying it’s not fair, but I actually see this as a counterpoint: If you make your programs so good that students who enroll do well, then that’s the biggest selling point,” said Michelle Cooper, president of the nonpartisan Institute for Higher Education Policy.

Students who choose for-profit colleges are more likely to be older, work a full-time job or have a family they need to support. They’re usually attracted to the schools because of the flexible class schedule, easy registration and specific programs that don’t require general education requirements. Often, they’re the first in their families to attend college.

The colleges argue that serving these nontraditional students makes it more difficult to judge the schools by traditional measures of success – graduation rates and starting salaries, for example – since their students face different obstacles than the typical 18-year-old who enrolls at a two- or four-year institution.

Joshua Gaskins, 26, of Hanahan, S.C., grew up in a family where no one finished high school. He said his parents told him: “I don’t want you working a dead-end job. I want you to do something with your life.”

IT’S TRULY MIND-BOGGLING THAT HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE STILL FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL TO PROTECT SCHOOLS THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF STUDENTS AND LEAVE TAXPAYERS WITH THE BILL.

U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan
Under siege for-profit colleges cry foul over new federal rules McClatchy DC

More commie support for the leftist halls of indoctrination, why shouldn't this apply to all schools who receive student aid?
 
IMPORTANT POINT: "Students at for-profit institutions represent only 11% of college students but make up 44% of students who default on their loans"
WASHINGTON


After trying for years to tighten the rules on for-profit colleges, the Department of Education finally enacted regulations on the industry this summer. But the fight’s not over.

A month after new rules went into effect, the department faces continuing push-back from the colleges, and Republican lawmakers as well.

0724%20local%20profitcollege1

ITT Technical Institute is a for-profit institute in Boise, Idaho. It is headquartered in Indiana. Chris Butler Idaho Statesman
The regulations require for-profit colleges, such as prominent names like the University of Phoenix and ITT Tech, to prove that students can find “gainful employment” after finishing school.

The intent is to separate credible programs from those that weigh students down with significant debt for degrees that end up being worth little. Colleges are now asked to show that the average student’s annual loan payment is not more than 20 percent of the student’s discretionary income after graduation.

If the schools don’t meet the standard, they risk losing their federal financial aid. Public and private nonprofit colleges are not required to prove that their students meet such a standard.

For the Education Department and others that have spent years fighting to implement the regulations, it’s an important step toward cracking down on an industry that has been criticized for taking advantage of students.

“It’s a big issue,” said Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn. “They wind up in serious economic difficulty. With high debt, they default. They don’t come out with a meaningful education or degree or certificate that allows them to be gainfully employed.”

The federal government has been cracking down on for-profit schools. In April, the Education Department fined the Corinthian College chain $30 million for overstating its job placement figures.Corinthian closed in May.

The University of Phoenix, meanwhile, is under investigation by the Federal Trade Commission, for possible deceptive practices related to marketing, costs, recruiting and other aspects of its business. Phoenix, popular among veterans, receives large amounts of tuition and costs through the GI Bill.

A 2012 report from the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee found that for-profit colleges are significant recipients of federal student aid.

“During the 2009-10 academic year, the for-profit sector collected $32 billion, out of the total $130 billion in loans and grants disbursed under Title IV of the Higher Education Act,”it stated.

Title IV is the major source of federal student aid.

THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE NEEDIEST ONES ARE OFTEN NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM. WE DON’T WANT PEOPLE’S FINANCIAL SITUATIONS TO BE WORSE AS A RESULT OF HAVING PURSUED HIGHER EDUCATION.

Michelle Cooper, president of the nonpartisan Institute for Higher Education Policy, speaking of for-profit college students

For-profit colleges say the new Department of Education rule is unfair and singles them out, while public and private nonprofit universities continue to increase tuition and leave students in significant debt, an average of $28,400 per student, according to The Institute for College Access and Success.

“It doesn’t apply to all programs and all students at all institutions. It applies to, essentially, us,” said Noah Black, vice president of public affairs for the Association of Private Sector Colleges and Universities, a trade group that represents for-profit schools.

Several Republicans have criticized the regulations as expensive and unauthorized. They also contend that regulating for-profit colleges should be the role of Congress, not the Obama administration. Appropriations bills drafted by the House of Representatives and the Senate include provisions to reverse the regulations.

“It’s better handled in the higher education reauthorization than it would be in some other way,” said Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., chairman of the Senate subcommittee responsible for education appropriations.

The Department of Education began pushing the “gainful employment” regulation in earnest in 2009. But the industry pushed back. When a version of the regulation was drafted in 2011, the for-profit colleges marketing association sued the department, claiming the new rules had been arbitrarily chosen.

A federal judge sided with the colleges, and the administration went back to the drawing board. New regulations came out last year and for-profit colleges sued again. This time the courts ruled for the department and the new regulations went into effect July 1. The for-profit colleges plan to appeal.

Black of the for-profit college marketing group claimed that if the “gainful employment” regulation was applied to all colleges and not just for-profits, some programs at well-known schools would not currently meet the standards, according to the group’s lawsuit against the Department of Education. It cites as examples a law degree from George Washington University or a bachelor’s degree in social work from the University of Texas.

THE WAY THE RULES AND REGULATIONS (ON FOR-PROFIT COLLEGES) HAVE BEEN FORMULATED IS EXTREMELY UNFAIR AND DOESN’T CREATE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

Richard Vedder, director of the Center for College Affordability and Productivity

But opponents say that for-profit colleges deserve special scrutiny because they saddle more vulnerable students with more debt and do less to improve their futures. According to the Department of Education, more than 80 percent of for-profit students need to take out federal loans to pay for college, while less than half of students at public colleges do.

The degree often costs more, with the average tuition at a for-profit school measuring four times the tuition at a community college and nearly double the in-state tuition at a public four-year university, federal education data shows.

And while costly, education officials say that it typically doesn’t yield strong results on the job market. Students with bachelor’s degrees from for-profit schools were 22 percent less likely to hear back from employers than job applicants with similar degrees from non-selective public colleges, a study from the National Bureau of Economic Research found.

Though students at for-profit institutions represent only 11 percent of college students, they make up 44 percent of students who default on their loans, according to the data.

For-profit schools are “saying it’s not fair, but I actually see this as a counterpoint: If you make your programs so good that students who enroll do well, then that’s the biggest selling point,” said Michelle Cooper, president of the nonpartisan Institute for Higher Education Policy.

Students who choose for-profit colleges are more likely to be older, work a full-time job or have a family they need to support. They’re usually attracted to the schools because of the flexible class schedule, easy registration and specific programs that don’t require general education requirements. Often, they’re the first in their families to attend college.

The colleges argue that serving these nontraditional students makes it more difficult to judge the schools by traditional measures of success – graduation rates and starting salaries, for example – since their students face different obstacles than the typical 18-year-old who enrolls at a two- or four-year institution.

Joshua Gaskins, 26, of Hanahan, S.C., grew up in a family where no one finished high school. He said his parents told him: “I don’t want you working a dead-end job. I want you to do something with your life.”

IT’S TRULY MIND-BOGGLING THAT HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE STILL FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL TO PROTECT SCHOOLS THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF STUDENTS AND LEAVE TAXPAYERS WITH THE BILL.

U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan
Under siege for-profit colleges cry foul over new federal rules McClatchy DC

More commie support for the leftist halls of indoctrination, why shouldn't this apply to all schools who receive student aid?
For profit schools are responsible for 44% of loan defaults.
 
IMPORTANT POINT: "Students at for-profit institutions represent only 11% of college students but make up 44% of students who default on their loans"
WASHINGTON


After trying for years to tighten the rules on for-profit colleges, the Department of Education finally enacted regulations on the industry this summer. But the fight’s not over.

A month after new rules went into effect, the department faces continuing push-back from the colleges, and Republican lawmakers as well.

0724%20local%20profitcollege1

ITT Technical Institute is a for-profit institute in Boise, Idaho. It is headquartered in Indiana. Chris Butler Idaho Statesman
The regulations require for-profit colleges, such as prominent names like the University of Phoenix and ITT Tech, to prove that students can find “gainful employment” after finishing school.

The intent is to separate credible programs from those that weigh students down with significant debt for degrees that end up being worth little. Colleges are now asked to show that the average student’s annual loan payment is not more than 20 percent of the student’s discretionary income after graduation.

If the schools don’t meet the standard, they risk losing their federal financial aid. Public and private nonprofit colleges are not required to prove that their students meet such a standard.

For the Education Department and others that have spent years fighting to implement the regulations, it’s an important step toward cracking down on an industry that has been criticized for taking advantage of students.

“It’s a big issue,” said Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn. “They wind up in serious economic difficulty. With high debt, they default. They don’t come out with a meaningful education or degree or certificate that allows them to be gainfully employed.”

The federal government has been cracking down on for-profit schools. In April, the Education Department fined the Corinthian College chain $30 million for overstating its job placement figures.Corinthian closed in May.

The University of Phoenix, meanwhile, is under investigation by the Federal Trade Commission, for possible deceptive practices related to marketing, costs, recruiting and other aspects of its business. Phoenix, popular among veterans, receives large amounts of tuition and costs through the GI Bill.

A 2012 report from the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee found that for-profit colleges are significant recipients of federal student aid.

“During the 2009-10 academic year, the for-profit sector collected $32 billion, out of the total $130 billion in loans and grants disbursed under Title IV of the Higher Education Act,”it stated.

Title IV is the major source of federal student aid.

THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE NEEDIEST ONES ARE OFTEN NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM. WE DON’T WANT PEOPLE’S FINANCIAL SITUATIONS TO BE WORSE AS A RESULT OF HAVING PURSUED HIGHER EDUCATION.

Michelle Cooper, president of the nonpartisan Institute for Higher Education Policy, speaking of for-profit college students

For-profit colleges say the new Department of Education rule is unfair and singles them out, while public and private nonprofit universities continue to increase tuition and leave students in significant debt, an average of $28,400 per student, according to The Institute for College Access and Success.

“It doesn’t apply to all programs and all students at all institutions. It applies to, essentially, us,” said Noah Black, vice president of public affairs for the Association of Private Sector Colleges and Universities, a trade group that represents for-profit schools.

Several Republicans have criticized the regulations as expensive and unauthorized. They also contend that regulating for-profit colleges should be the role of Congress, not the Obama administration. Appropriations bills drafted by the House of Representatives and the Senate include provisions to reverse the regulations.

“It’s better handled in the higher education reauthorization than it would be in some other way,” said Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., chairman of the Senate subcommittee responsible for education appropriations.

The Department of Education began pushing the “gainful employment” regulation in earnest in 2009. But the industry pushed back. When a version of the regulation was drafted in 2011, the for-profit colleges marketing association sued the department, claiming the new rules had been arbitrarily chosen.

A federal judge sided with the colleges, and the administration went back to the drawing board. New regulations came out last year and for-profit colleges sued again. This time the courts ruled for the department and the new regulations went into effect July 1. The for-profit colleges plan to appeal.

Black of the for-profit college marketing group claimed that if the “gainful employment” regulation was applied to all colleges and not just for-profits, some programs at well-known schools would not currently meet the standards, according to the group’s lawsuit against the Department of Education. It cites as examples a law degree from George Washington University or a bachelor’s degree in social work from the University of Texas.

THE WAY THE RULES AND REGULATIONS (ON FOR-PROFIT COLLEGES) HAVE BEEN FORMULATED IS EXTREMELY UNFAIR AND DOESN’T CREATE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

Richard Vedder, director of the Center for College Affordability and Productivity

But opponents say that for-profit colleges deserve special scrutiny because they saddle more vulnerable students with more debt and do less to improve their futures. According to the Department of Education, more than 80 percent of for-profit students need to take out federal loans to pay for college, while less than half of students at public colleges do.

The degree often costs more, with the average tuition at a for-profit school measuring four times the tuition at a community college and nearly double the in-state tuition at a public four-year university, federal education data shows.

And while costly, education officials say that it typically doesn’t yield strong results on the job market. Students with bachelor’s degrees from for-profit schools were 22 percent less likely to hear back from employers than job applicants with similar degrees from non-selective public colleges, a study from the National Bureau of Economic Research found.

Though students at for-profit institutions represent only 11 percent of college students, they make up 44 percent of students who default on their loans, according to the data.

For-profit schools are “saying it’s not fair, but I actually see this as a counterpoint: If you make your programs so good that students who enroll do well, then that’s the biggest selling point,” said Michelle Cooper, president of the nonpartisan Institute for Higher Education Policy.

Students who choose for-profit colleges are more likely to be older, work a full-time job or have a family they need to support. They’re usually attracted to the schools because of the flexible class schedule, easy registration and specific programs that don’t require general education requirements. Often, they’re the first in their families to attend college.

The colleges argue that serving these nontraditional students makes it more difficult to judge the schools by traditional measures of success – graduation rates and starting salaries, for example – since their students face different obstacles than the typical 18-year-old who enrolls at a two- or four-year institution.

Joshua Gaskins, 26, of Hanahan, S.C., grew up in a family where no one finished high school. He said his parents told him: “I don’t want you working a dead-end job. I want you to do something with your life.”

IT’S TRULY MIND-BOGGLING THAT HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE STILL FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL TO PROTECT SCHOOLS THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF STUDENTS AND LEAVE TAXPAYERS WITH THE BILL.

U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan
Under siege for-profit colleges cry foul over new federal rules McClatchy DC

More commie support for the leftist halls of indoctrination, why shouldn't this apply to all schools who receive student aid?
For profit schools are responsible for 44% of loan defaults.

And the others are responsible for the majority 56%, so tell me again why this shouldn't apply to them?
 
IMPORTANT POINT: "Students at for-profit institutions represent only 11% of college students but make up 44% of students who default on their loans"
WASHINGTON


After trying for years to tighten the rules on for-profit colleges, the Department of Education finally enacted regulations on the industry this summer. But the fight’s not over.

A month after new rules went into effect, the department faces continuing push-back from the colleges, and Republican lawmakers as well.

0724%20local%20profitcollege1

ITT Technical Institute is a for-profit institute in Boise, Idaho. It is headquartered in Indiana. Chris Butler Idaho Statesman
The regulations require for-profit colleges, such as prominent names like the University of Phoenix and ITT Tech, to prove that students can find “gainful employment” after finishing school.

The intent is to separate credible programs from those that weigh students down with significant debt for degrees that end up being worth little. Colleges are now asked to show that the average student’s annual loan payment is not more than 20 percent of the student’s discretionary income after graduation.

If the schools don’t meet the standard, they risk losing their federal financial aid. Public and private nonprofit colleges are not required to prove that their students meet such a standard.

For the Education Department and others that have spent years fighting to implement the regulations, it’s an important step toward cracking down on an industry that has been criticized for taking advantage of students.

“It’s a big issue,” said Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn. “They wind up in serious economic difficulty. With high debt, they default. They don’t come out with a meaningful education or degree or certificate that allows them to be gainfully employed.”

The federal government has been cracking down on for-profit schools. In April, the Education Department fined the Corinthian College chain $30 million for overstating its job placement figures.Corinthian closed in May.

The University of Phoenix, meanwhile, is under investigation by the Federal Trade Commission, for possible deceptive practices related to marketing, costs, recruiting and other aspects of its business. Phoenix, popular among veterans, receives large amounts of tuition and costs through the GI Bill.

A 2012 report from the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee found that for-profit colleges are significant recipients of federal student aid.

“During the 2009-10 academic year, the for-profit sector collected $32 billion, out of the total $130 billion in loans and grants disbursed under Title IV of the Higher Education Act,”it stated.

Title IV is the major source of federal student aid.

THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE NEEDIEST ONES ARE OFTEN NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM. WE DON’T WANT PEOPLE’S FINANCIAL SITUATIONS TO BE WORSE AS A RESULT OF HAVING PURSUED HIGHER EDUCATION.

Michelle Cooper, president of the nonpartisan Institute for Higher Education Policy, speaking of for-profit college students

For-profit colleges say the new Department of Education rule is unfair and singles them out, while public and private nonprofit universities continue to increase tuition and leave students in significant debt, an average of $28,400 per student, according to The Institute for College Access and Success.

“It doesn’t apply to all programs and all students at all institutions. It applies to, essentially, us,” said Noah Black, vice president of public affairs for the Association of Private Sector Colleges and Universities, a trade group that represents for-profit schools.

Several Republicans have criticized the regulations as expensive and unauthorized. They also contend that regulating for-profit colleges should be the role of Congress, not the Obama administration. Appropriations bills drafted by the House of Representatives and the Senate include provisions to reverse the regulations.

“It’s better handled in the higher education reauthorization than it would be in some other way,” said Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., chairman of the Senate subcommittee responsible for education appropriations.

The Department of Education began pushing the “gainful employment” regulation in earnest in 2009. But the industry pushed back. When a version of the regulation was drafted in 2011, the for-profit colleges marketing association sued the department, claiming the new rules had been arbitrarily chosen.

A federal judge sided with the colleges, and the administration went back to the drawing board. New regulations came out last year and for-profit colleges sued again. This time the courts ruled for the department and the new regulations went into effect July 1. The for-profit colleges plan to appeal.

Black of the for-profit college marketing group claimed that if the “gainful employment” regulation was applied to all colleges and not just for-profits, some programs at well-known schools would not currently meet the standards, according to the group’s lawsuit against the Department of Education. It cites as examples a law degree from George Washington University or a bachelor’s degree in social work from the University of Texas.

THE WAY THE RULES AND REGULATIONS (ON FOR-PROFIT COLLEGES) HAVE BEEN FORMULATED IS EXTREMELY UNFAIR AND DOESN’T CREATE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

Richard Vedder, director of the Center for College Affordability and Productivity

But opponents say that for-profit colleges deserve special scrutiny because they saddle more vulnerable students with more debt and do less to improve their futures. According to the Department of Education, more than 80 percent of for-profit students need to take out federal loans to pay for college, while less than half of students at public colleges do.

The degree often costs more, with the average tuition at a for-profit school measuring four times the tuition at a community college and nearly double the in-state tuition at a public four-year university, federal education data shows.

And while costly, education officials say that it typically doesn’t yield strong results on the job market. Students with bachelor’s degrees from for-profit schools were 22 percent less likely to hear back from employers than job applicants with similar degrees from non-selective public colleges, a study from the National Bureau of Economic Research found.

Though students at for-profit institutions represent only 11 percent of college students, they make up 44 percent of students who default on their loans, according to the data.

For-profit schools are “saying it’s not fair, but I actually see this as a counterpoint: If you make your programs so good that students who enroll do well, then that’s the biggest selling point,” said Michelle Cooper, president of the nonpartisan Institute for Higher Education Policy.

Students who choose for-profit colleges are more likely to be older, work a full-time job or have a family they need to support. They’re usually attracted to the schools because of the flexible class schedule, easy registration and specific programs that don’t require general education requirements. Often, they’re the first in their families to attend college.

The colleges argue that serving these nontraditional students makes it more difficult to judge the schools by traditional measures of success – graduation rates and starting salaries, for example – since their students face different obstacles than the typical 18-year-old who enrolls at a two- or four-year institution.

Joshua Gaskins, 26, of Hanahan, S.C., grew up in a family where no one finished high school. He said his parents told him: “I don’t want you working a dead-end job. I want you to do something with your life.”

IT’S TRULY MIND-BOGGLING THAT HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE STILL FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL TO PROTECT SCHOOLS THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF STUDENTS AND LEAVE TAXPAYERS WITH THE BILL.

U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan
Under siege for-profit colleges cry foul over new federal rules McClatchy DC

More commie support for the leftist halls of indoctrination, why shouldn't this apply to all schools who receive student aid?
For profit schools are responsible for 44% of loan defaults.

And the others are responsible for the majority 56%, so tell me again why this shouldn't apply to them?
11% of students attend for profit schools, they're responsible for 44% of defaults. Basic math idiot.
 
IMPORTANT POINT: "Students at for-profit institutions represent only 11% of college students but make up 44% of students who default on their loans"
WASHINGTON


After trying for years to tighten the rules on for-profit colleges, the Department of Education finally enacted regulations on the industry this summer. But the fight’s not over.

A month after new rules went into effect, the department faces continuing push-back from the colleges, and Republican lawmakers as well.

0724%20local%20profitcollege1

ITT Technical Institute is a for-profit institute in Boise, Idaho. It is headquartered in Indiana. Chris Butler Idaho Statesman
The regulations require for-profit colleges, such as prominent names like the University of Phoenix and ITT Tech, to prove that students can find “gainful employment” after finishing school.

The intent is to separate credible programs from those that weigh students down with significant debt for degrees that end up being worth little. Colleges are now asked to show that the average student’s annual loan payment is not more than 20 percent of the student’s discretionary income after graduation.

If the schools don’t meet the standard, they risk losing their federal financial aid. Public and private nonprofit colleges are not required to prove that their students meet such a standard.

For the Education Department and others that have spent years fighting to implement the regulations, it’s an important step toward cracking down on an industry that has been criticized for taking advantage of students.

“It’s a big issue,” said Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn. “They wind up in serious economic difficulty. With high debt, they default. They don’t come out with a meaningful education or degree or certificate that allows them to be gainfully employed.”

The federal government has been cracking down on for-profit schools. In April, the Education Department fined the Corinthian College chain $30 million for overstating its job placement figures.Corinthian closed in May.

The University of Phoenix, meanwhile, is under investigation by the Federal Trade Commission, for possible deceptive practices related to marketing, costs, recruiting and other aspects of its business. Phoenix, popular among veterans, receives large amounts of tuition and costs through the GI Bill.

A 2012 report from the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee found that for-profit colleges are significant recipients of federal student aid.

“During the 2009-10 academic year, the for-profit sector collected $32 billion, out of the total $130 billion in loans and grants disbursed under Title IV of the Higher Education Act,”it stated.

Title IV is the major source of federal student aid.

THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE NEEDIEST ONES ARE OFTEN NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM. WE DON’T WANT PEOPLE’S FINANCIAL SITUATIONS TO BE WORSE AS A RESULT OF HAVING PURSUED HIGHER EDUCATION.

Michelle Cooper, president of the nonpartisan Institute for Higher Education Policy, speaking of for-profit college students

For-profit colleges say the new Department of Education rule is unfair and singles them out, while public and private nonprofit universities continue to increase tuition and leave students in significant debt, an average of $28,400 per student, according to The Institute for College Access and Success.

“It doesn’t apply to all programs and all students at all institutions. It applies to, essentially, us,” said Noah Black, vice president of public affairs for the Association of Private Sector Colleges and Universities, a trade group that represents for-profit schools.

Several Republicans have criticized the regulations as expensive and unauthorized. They also contend that regulating for-profit colleges should be the role of Congress, not the Obama administration. Appropriations bills drafted by the House of Representatives and the Senate include provisions to reverse the regulations.

“It’s better handled in the higher education reauthorization than it would be in some other way,” said Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., chairman of the Senate subcommittee responsible for education appropriations.

The Department of Education began pushing the “gainful employment” regulation in earnest in 2009. But the industry pushed back. When a version of the regulation was drafted in 2011, the for-profit colleges marketing association sued the department, claiming the new rules had been arbitrarily chosen.

A federal judge sided with the colleges, and the administration went back to the drawing board. New regulations came out last year and for-profit colleges sued again. This time the courts ruled for the department and the new regulations went into effect July 1. The for-profit colleges plan to appeal.

Black of the for-profit college marketing group claimed that if the “gainful employment” regulation was applied to all colleges and not just for-profits, some programs at well-known schools would not currently meet the standards, according to the group’s lawsuit against the Department of Education. It cites as examples a law degree from George Washington University or a bachelor’s degree in social work from the University of Texas.

THE WAY THE RULES AND REGULATIONS (ON FOR-PROFIT COLLEGES) HAVE BEEN FORMULATED IS EXTREMELY UNFAIR AND DOESN’T CREATE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

Richard Vedder, director of the Center for College Affordability and Productivity

But opponents say that for-profit colleges deserve special scrutiny because they saddle more vulnerable students with more debt and do less to improve their futures. According to the Department of Education, more than 80 percent of for-profit students need to take out federal loans to pay for college, while less than half of students at public colleges do.

The degree often costs more, with the average tuition at a for-profit school measuring four times the tuition at a community college and nearly double the in-state tuition at a public four-year university, federal education data shows.

And while costly, education officials say that it typically doesn’t yield strong results on the job market. Students with bachelor’s degrees from for-profit schools were 22 percent less likely to hear back from employers than job applicants with similar degrees from non-selective public colleges, a study from the National Bureau of Economic Research found.

Though students at for-profit institutions represent only 11 percent of college students, they make up 44 percent of students who default on their loans, according to the data.

For-profit schools are “saying it’s not fair, but I actually see this as a counterpoint: If you make your programs so good that students who enroll do well, then that’s the biggest selling point,” said Michelle Cooper, president of the nonpartisan Institute for Higher Education Policy.

Students who choose for-profit colleges are more likely to be older, work a full-time job or have a family they need to support. They’re usually attracted to the schools because of the flexible class schedule, easy registration and specific programs that don’t require general education requirements. Often, they’re the first in their families to attend college.

The colleges argue that serving these nontraditional students makes it more difficult to judge the schools by traditional measures of success – graduation rates and starting salaries, for example – since their students face different obstacles than the typical 18-year-old who enrolls at a two- or four-year institution.

Joshua Gaskins, 26, of Hanahan, S.C., grew up in a family where no one finished high school. He said his parents told him: “I don’t want you working a dead-end job. I want you to do something with your life.”

IT’S TRULY MIND-BOGGLING THAT HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE STILL FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL TO PROTECT SCHOOLS THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF STUDENTS AND LEAVE TAXPAYERS WITH THE BILL.

U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan
Under siege for-profit colleges cry foul over new federal rules McClatchy DC
My concern is that the federal government should be going after ALL colleges and universities for doing the same thing...That is saddling students with crushing debt after issuing nearly useless degrees.
For every grad that works in an industry for which they were majoring, there are probably several times that many who are floundering about trying to make ends meet working at some obscure occupation which has nothing to do what they learned( term used loosely) in college.
Err, for profit ones are the ones that need to be gone after the most, 11% of students attend them, but they make up 44% of students who default on their loans..
There is no "most"....The law should be applied equally.....Is there a problem with that?
Public colleges are already regulated, for profit colleges have been getting away with shit for to long.
Regulated? Please don't tell stand up lounge act jokes.
US Institutes of higher learning churn out over one million degrees per year. with a very small percentage of grads working in an industry related to the major core study, it is time for the government to grab the flashlight and tell the school admins to bend over and relax.
I can give you so many examples of people I know who are in jobs that are totally unrelated to their degrees.
1. Humanities degree.. Masters....she is a paralegal....
2. BS In human resources management. Warehouse supervisor. Was a certified real estate appraiser.
3. BA in finance. he's a Police officer.
4. BS in hospitality( hotel motel)....He is in the auto auction business. Was in sales for a former steamship cruise line.
5. BS in physical education...he owns a bar. Bartended his way through college and then some 20 years after getting his degree....
That's just a few....
Don't tell me the non profit( cough cough) colleges are pure as the driven snow.....Are we clear?
 
My concern is that the federal government should be going after ALL colleges and universities for doing the same thing...That is saddling students with crushing debt after issuing nearly useless degrees.
For every grad that works in an industry for which they were majoring, there are probably several times that many who are floundering about trying to make ends meet working at some obscure occupation which has nothing to do what they learned( term used loosely) in college.
Err, for profit ones are the ones that need to be gone after the most, 11% of students attend them, but they make up 44% of students who default on their loans..
There is no "most"....The law should be applied equally.....Is there a problem with that?
Public colleges are already regulated, for profit colleges have been getting away with shit for to long.
Regulated? Please don't tell stand up lounge act jokes.
US Institutes of higher learning churn out over one million degrees per year. with a very small percentage of grads working in an industry related to the major core study, it is time for the government to grab the flashlight and tell the school admins to bend over and relax.
I can give you so many examples of people I know who are in jobs that are totally unrelated to their degrees.
1. Humanities degree.. Masters....she is a paralegal....
2. BS In human resources management. Warehouse supervisor. Was a certified real estate appraiser.
3. BA in finance. he's a Police officer.
4. BS in hospitality( hotel motel)....He is in the auto auction business. Was in sales for a former steamship cruise line.
5. BS in physical education...he owns a bar. Bartended his way through college and then some 20 years after getting his degree....
That's just a few....
Don't tell me the non profit( cough cough) colleges are pure as the driven snow.....Are we clear?
You can't blame a lack of jobs on colleges. Don't you support freedom to choose?
 
IMPORTANT POINT: "Students at for-profit institutions represent only 11% of college students but make up 44% of students who default on their loans"
WASHINGTON


After trying for years to tighten the rules on for-profit colleges, the Department of Education finally enacted regulations on the industry this summer. But the fight’s not over.

A month after new rules went into effect, the department faces continuing push-back from the colleges, and Republican lawmakers as well.

0724%20local%20profitcollege1

ITT Technical Institute is a for-profit institute in Boise, Idaho. It is headquartered in Indiana. Chris Butler Idaho Statesman
The regulations require for-profit colleges, such as prominent names like the University of Phoenix and ITT Tech, to prove that students can find “gainful employment” after finishing school.

The intent is to separate credible programs from those that weigh students down with significant debt for degrees that end up being worth little. Colleges are now asked to show that the average student’s annual loan payment is not more than 20 percent of the student’s discretionary income after graduation.

If the schools don’t meet the standard, they risk losing their federal financial aid. Public and private nonprofit colleges are not required to prove that their students meet such a standard.

For the Education Department and others that have spent years fighting to implement the regulations, it’s an important step toward cracking down on an industry that has been criticized for taking advantage of students.

“It’s a big issue,” said Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn. “They wind up in serious economic difficulty. With high debt, they default. They don’t come out with a meaningful education or degree or certificate that allows them to be gainfully employed.”

The federal government has been cracking down on for-profit schools. In April, the Education Department fined the Corinthian College chain $30 million for overstating its job placement figures.Corinthian closed in May.

The University of Phoenix, meanwhile, is under investigation by the Federal Trade Commission, for possible deceptive practices related to marketing, costs, recruiting and other aspects of its business. Phoenix, popular among veterans, receives large amounts of tuition and costs through the GI Bill.

A 2012 report from the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee found that for-profit colleges are significant recipients of federal student aid.

“During the 2009-10 academic year, the for-profit sector collected $32 billion, out of the total $130 billion in loans and grants disbursed under Title IV of the Higher Education Act,”it stated.

Title IV is the major source of federal student aid.

THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE NEEDIEST ONES ARE OFTEN NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM. WE DON’T WANT PEOPLE’S FINANCIAL SITUATIONS TO BE WORSE AS A RESULT OF HAVING PURSUED HIGHER EDUCATION.

Michelle Cooper, president of the nonpartisan Institute for Higher Education Policy, speaking of for-profit college students

For-profit colleges say the new Department of Education rule is unfair and singles them out, while public and private nonprofit universities continue to increase tuition and leave students in significant debt, an average of $28,400 per student, according to The Institute for College Access and Success.

“It doesn’t apply to all programs and all students at all institutions. It applies to, essentially, us,” said Noah Black, vice president of public affairs for the Association of Private Sector Colleges and Universities, a trade group that represents for-profit schools.

Several Republicans have criticized the regulations as expensive and unauthorized. They also contend that regulating for-profit colleges should be the role of Congress, not the Obama administration. Appropriations bills drafted by the House of Representatives and the Senate include provisions to reverse the regulations.

“It’s better handled in the higher education reauthorization than it would be in some other way,” said Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., chairman of the Senate subcommittee responsible for education appropriations.

The Department of Education began pushing the “gainful employment” regulation in earnest in 2009. But the industry pushed back. When a version of the regulation was drafted in 2011, the for-profit colleges marketing association sued the department, claiming the new rules had been arbitrarily chosen.

A federal judge sided with the colleges, and the administration went back to the drawing board. New regulations came out last year and for-profit colleges sued again. This time the courts ruled for the department and the new regulations went into effect July 1. The for-profit colleges plan to appeal.

Black of the for-profit college marketing group claimed that if the “gainful employment” regulation was applied to all colleges and not just for-profits, some programs at well-known schools would not currently meet the standards, according to the group’s lawsuit against the Department of Education. It cites as examples a law degree from George Washington University or a bachelor’s degree in social work from the University of Texas.

THE WAY THE RULES AND REGULATIONS (ON FOR-PROFIT COLLEGES) HAVE BEEN FORMULATED IS EXTREMELY UNFAIR AND DOESN’T CREATE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

Richard Vedder, director of the Center for College Affordability and Productivity

But opponents say that for-profit colleges deserve special scrutiny because they saddle more vulnerable students with more debt and do less to improve their futures. According to the Department of Education, more than 80 percent of for-profit students need to take out federal loans to pay for college, while less than half of students at public colleges do.

The degree often costs more, with the average tuition at a for-profit school measuring four times the tuition at a community college and nearly double the in-state tuition at a public four-year university, federal education data shows.

And while costly, education officials say that it typically doesn’t yield strong results on the job market. Students with bachelor’s degrees from for-profit schools were 22 percent less likely to hear back from employers than job applicants with similar degrees from non-selective public colleges, a study from the National Bureau of Economic Research found.

Though students at for-profit institutions represent only 11 percent of college students, they make up 44 percent of students who default on their loans, according to the data.

For-profit schools are “saying it’s not fair, but I actually see this as a counterpoint: If you make your programs so good that students who enroll do well, then that’s the biggest selling point,” said Michelle Cooper, president of the nonpartisan Institute for Higher Education Policy.

Students who choose for-profit colleges are more likely to be older, work a full-time job or have a family they need to support. They’re usually attracted to the schools because of the flexible class schedule, easy registration and specific programs that don’t require general education requirements. Often, they’re the first in their families to attend college.

The colleges argue that serving these nontraditional students makes it more difficult to judge the schools by traditional measures of success – graduation rates and starting salaries, for example – since their students face different obstacles than the typical 18-year-old who enrolls at a two- or four-year institution.

Joshua Gaskins, 26, of Hanahan, S.C., grew up in a family where no one finished high school. He said his parents told him: “I don’t want you working a dead-end job. I want you to do something with your life.”

IT’S TRULY MIND-BOGGLING THAT HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE STILL FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL TO PROTECT SCHOOLS THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF STUDENTS AND LEAVE TAXPAYERS WITH THE BILL.

U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan
Under siege for-profit colleges cry foul over new federal rules McClatchy DC

More commie support for the leftist halls of indoctrination, why shouldn't this apply to all schools who receive student aid?
For profit schools are responsible for 44% of loan defaults.

And the others are responsible for the majority 56%, so tell me again why this shouldn't apply to them?
11% of students attend for profit schools, they're responsible for 44% of defaults. Basic math idiot.

And this mitigates the 56%, how?
 
If it's a private entity, that means that the government has them in the cross hairs.
 
For profit schools are responsible for 44% of loan defaults.

And the others are responsible for the majority 56%, so tell me again why this shouldn't apply to them?
11% of students attend for profit schools, they're responsible for 44% of defaults. Basic math idiot.

And this mitigates the 56%, how?
11% of students attending for profit schools make up 44% of defaults. Don't you see the massive inconsistency?
 
IMPORTANT POINT: "Students at for-profit institutions represent only 11% of college students but make up 44% of students who default on their loans"
WASHINGTON


After trying for years to tighten the rules on for-profit colleges, the Department of Education finally enacted regulations on the industry this summer. But the fight’s not over.

A month after new rules went into effect, the department faces continuing push-back from the colleges, and Republican lawmakers as well.

0724%20local%20profitcollege1

ITT Technical Institute is a for-profit institute in Boise, Idaho. It is headquartered in Indiana. Chris Butler Idaho Statesman
The regulations require for-profit colleges, such as prominent names like the University of Phoenix and ITT Tech, to prove that students can find “gainful employment” after finishing school.

The intent is to separate credible programs from those that weigh students down with significant debt for degrees that end up being worth little. Colleges are now asked to show that the average student’s annual loan payment is not more than 20 percent of the student’s discretionary income after graduation.

If the schools don’t meet the standard, they risk losing their federal financial aid. Public and private nonprofit colleges are not required to prove that their students meet such a standard.

For the Education Department and others that have spent years fighting to implement the regulations, it’s an important step toward cracking down on an industry that has been criticized for taking advantage of students.

“It’s a big issue,” said Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn. “They wind up in serious economic difficulty. With high debt, they default. They don’t come out with a meaningful education or degree or certificate that allows them to be gainfully employed.”

The federal government has been cracking down on for-profit schools. In April, the Education Department fined the Corinthian College chain $30 million for overstating its job placement figures.Corinthian closed in May.

The University of Phoenix, meanwhile, is under investigation by the Federal Trade Commission, for possible deceptive practices related to marketing, costs, recruiting and other aspects of its business. Phoenix, popular among veterans, receives large amounts of tuition and costs through the GI Bill.

A 2012 report from the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee found that for-profit colleges are significant recipients of federal student aid.

“During the 2009-10 academic year, the for-profit sector collected $32 billion, out of the total $130 billion in loans and grants disbursed under Title IV of the Higher Education Act,”it stated.

Title IV is the major source of federal student aid.

THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE NEEDIEST ONES ARE OFTEN NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM. WE DON’T WANT PEOPLE’S FINANCIAL SITUATIONS TO BE WORSE AS A RESULT OF HAVING PURSUED HIGHER EDUCATION.

Michelle Cooper, president of the nonpartisan Institute for Higher Education Policy, speaking of for-profit college students

For-profit colleges say the new Department of Education rule is unfair and singles them out, while public and private nonprofit universities continue to increase tuition and leave students in significant debt, an average of $28,400 per student, according to The Institute for College Access and Success.

“It doesn’t apply to all programs and all students at all institutions. It applies to, essentially, us,” said Noah Black, vice president of public affairs for the Association of Private Sector Colleges and Universities, a trade group that represents for-profit schools.

Several Republicans have criticized the regulations as expensive and unauthorized. They also contend that regulating for-profit colleges should be the role of Congress, not the Obama administration. Appropriations bills drafted by the House of Representatives and the Senate include provisions to reverse the regulations.

“It’s better handled in the higher education reauthorization than it would be in some other way,” said Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., chairman of the Senate subcommittee responsible for education appropriations.

The Department of Education began pushing the “gainful employment” regulation in earnest in 2009. But the industry pushed back. When a version of the regulation was drafted in 2011, the for-profit colleges marketing association sued the department, claiming the new rules had been arbitrarily chosen.

A federal judge sided with the colleges, and the administration went back to the drawing board. New regulations came out last year and for-profit colleges sued again. This time the courts ruled for the department and the new regulations went into effect July 1. The for-profit colleges plan to appeal.

Black of the for-profit college marketing group claimed that if the “gainful employment” regulation was applied to all colleges and not just for-profits, some programs at well-known schools would not currently meet the standards, according to the group’s lawsuit against the Department of Education. It cites as examples a law degree from George Washington University or a bachelor’s degree in social work from the University of Texas.

THE WAY THE RULES AND REGULATIONS (ON FOR-PROFIT COLLEGES) HAVE BEEN FORMULATED IS EXTREMELY UNFAIR AND DOESN’T CREATE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

Richard Vedder, director of the Center for College Affordability and Productivity

But opponents say that for-profit colleges deserve special scrutiny because they saddle more vulnerable students with more debt and do less to improve their futures. According to the Department of Education, more than 80 percent of for-profit students need to take out federal loans to pay for college, while less than half of students at public colleges do.

The degree often costs more, with the average tuition at a for-profit school measuring four times the tuition at a community college and nearly double the in-state tuition at a public four-year university, federal education data shows.

And while costly, education officials say that it typically doesn’t yield strong results on the job market. Students with bachelor’s degrees from for-profit schools were 22 percent less likely to hear back from employers than job applicants with similar degrees from non-selective public colleges, a study from the National Bureau of Economic Research found.

Though students at for-profit institutions represent only 11 percent of college students, they make up 44 percent of students who default on their loans, according to the data.

For-profit schools are “saying it’s not fair, but I actually see this as a counterpoint: If you make your programs so good that students who enroll do well, then that’s the biggest selling point,” said Michelle Cooper, president of the nonpartisan Institute for Higher Education Policy.

Students who choose for-profit colleges are more likely to be older, work a full-time job or have a family they need to support. They’re usually attracted to the schools because of the flexible class schedule, easy registration and specific programs that don’t require general education requirements. Often, they’re the first in their families to attend college.

The colleges argue that serving these nontraditional students makes it more difficult to judge the schools by traditional measures of success – graduation rates and starting salaries, for example – since their students face different obstacles than the typical 18-year-old who enrolls at a two- or four-year institution.

Joshua Gaskins, 26, of Hanahan, S.C., grew up in a family where no one finished high school. He said his parents told him: “I don’t want you working a dead-end job. I want you to do something with your life.”

IT’S TRULY MIND-BOGGLING THAT HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE STILL FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL TO PROTECT SCHOOLS THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF STUDENTS AND LEAVE TAXPAYERS WITH THE BILL.

U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan
Under siege for-profit colleges cry foul over new federal rules McClatchy DC

More commie support for the leftist halls of indoctrination, why shouldn't this apply to all schools who receive student aid?
For profit schools are responsible for 44% of loan defaults.

And the others are responsible for the majority 56%, so tell me again why this shouldn't apply to them?
11% of students attend for profit schools, they're responsible for 44% of defaults. Basic math idiot.
Name calling already?....You lose...
 

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