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[AzogtheDefiler]

Tell them to F off and go about your business. I hear Antisemitic remarks frequently. It doesn’t bother me.

But you notice, right? And you do nothing? Keep your head down and move on?

Unless you want to fight everybody, yes.

Bingo. Racist remarks are par for the course when you are in a melting pot.

 

[Unkotare]

Tell them to F off and go about your business. I hear Antisemitic remarks frequently. It doesn’t bother me.

But you notice, right? And you do nothing? Keep your head down and move on?

Unless you want to fight everybody, yes.

The only two choices are starting a fight or skulking away and pretending not to notice? Really?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Tell them to F off and go about your business. I hear Antisemitic remarks frequently. It doesn’t bother me.

But you notice, right? And you do nothing? Keep your head down and move on?

Unless you want to fight everybody, yes.

The only two choices are starting a fight or skulking away and pretending not to notice? Really?

Not starting a fight but being ready for one. It is their right to mock you. If not for race maybe for weight, hair, Idk. People can be assholes. Just look at this board. Should I punch Right Winger and JoeB for being antisemites? Come on man.

 

[Unkotare]

Tell them to F off and go about your business. I hear Antisemitic remarks frequently. It doesn’t bother me.

But you notice, right? And you do nothing? Keep your head down and move on?

Unless you want to fight everybody, yes.

Bingo. Racist remarks are par for the course when you are in a melting pot.

Not they are not. What a weak, passive attitude.

 

[Unkotare]

.....Should I punch Right Winger and JoeB for being antisemites? Come on man.

Again, your only two choices are punching them or encouraging them to be antisemites? Nothing else?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Tell them to F off and go about your business. I hear Antisemitic remarks frequently. It doesn’t bother me.

But you notice, right? And you do nothing? Keep your head down and move on?

Unless you want to fight everybody, yes.

Bingo. Racist remarks are par for the course when you are in a melting pot.

Not they are not. What a weak, passive attitude.

Really? LoL you re the one who is a sensitive little doll.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

.....Should I punch Right Winger and JoeB for being antisemites? Come on man.

Again, your only two choices are punching them or encouraging them to be antisemites? Nothing else?

Encouraging? How am I encouraging? You think if I yell at them it will make them less antisemitic?

 

[harmonica]

I don't believe it --only whites/WASPs can be evil/wrong/etc
WHITE cops defend themselves - EVIL
black MURDERS white--not that bad

 

[Unkotare]

Tell them to F off and go about your business. I hear Antisemitic remarks frequently. It doesn’t bother me.

But you notice, right? And you do nothing? Keep your head down and move on?

I notice but I believe in free speech so I just shrug it off. I also notice hate speech vs Asians frequently to your point. I nod my head in disapproval but I dont make a stink. If you made a stink and they got in your face I would get your back through.

It doesn't matter who is the speaker and who is the target. This group or that group, this kind of racist or that kind of racist. Wrong is wrong. Why would you "get your back" but do nothing on your own? You don't have to leap over the broccoli bringing down a flying elbow to let some idiot know that decent society notices.

 

[Unkotare]

.....Should I punch Right Winger and JoeB for being antisemites? Come on man.

Again, your only two choices are punching them or encouraging them to be antisemites? Nothing else?

Encouraging? How am I encouraging? You think if I yell at them it will make them less antisemitic?

I know if you keep your head down and shuffle away they will be encouraged to carry on the same way and be even more brazen if 3 or 4 such idiots gather and feel secure that everyone will be afraid to disapprove in any way. So next week when the same idiot feels empowered to make some hateful comment to a frail old Jewish woman it will be at least partly your fault.

 

[Nosmo King]

So I’m in my local grocery store this morning picking up some fresh produce to make a nice lunch for my son after football practice and I notice a couple of workers restocking one section of the produce area. They are chatting with each other in Spanish, which is fine when a few customers walk past them who happened to be Asian. The two of them start talking, apparently without concern, making all manner of very inappropriate comments about Asian people ( they were referring to them as Chinese, of course, which is something that a lot of ignorant people do as a blanket term for anyone from anywhere in Asia). They were not whispering to each other either. Obviously they assumed no Asian customers would understand what they were saying so they were standing 4 or 5 feet away making openly racist, insulting comments. When they noticed that I was looking at them clearly understanding what they said and walking towards their area they quickly found someplace else to be. And that was it. Not the end of the world, not a civil rights crisis, but something that made me feel pretty uncomfortable about where some people still are with their whole attitude about these things.

I’m not making excuses for any kind of racist or offensive talk but to expand the conversation... what do you think of the fact that many people in the world just have an inherent tendency to talk shit and make fun of others? Whether it be a source of their own insecurities or to fulfill a need for drama or to feel superior, I notice if you open the door to criticize others, many people light up and love to keep that ball rolling. So whether it be somebodies nationality, sex, religion, outfit, weight, the way their voice sounds, height, intelligence etc.... it seems like our human need for drama and gossip hones in.... probably a reason why white trash reality TV is so popular. so my question to you is, Do you agree with my analysis and do you think this is the same thing as racism/bigotry?

I think what the kids in this situation were doing is more like the internet. They felt anonymous enough to talk racist shit because they assumed the target of their slurs couldn't understand what they were saying. They were right, but realized what they were doing was not cool, if the look on their faces is any indication.

I've seen several a-holes on this forum complain about the consequences when they post racist or other offensive shit on facebook or wherever and get spotted by their boss. Seems sort of like the same thing.

We accept the position that bigotry is a universal human trait, but cultures serve as guardrails to make public behavior more or less acceptable.

There are repressive cultures with dogma and superstition calling the shots. Public behavior is stifled and incidents of blatant bigotry are not tolerated.

In more open cultures, public behavior is dealt with in varying degrees of repression. Is the American culture coarser thanmost and wide open to accepting out of bounds behavior?

 

[Unkotare]

Tell them to F off and go about your business. I hear Antisemitic remarks frequently. It doesn’t bother me.

But you notice, right? And you do nothing? Keep your head down and move on?

Unless you want to fight everybody, yes.

Bingo. Racist remarks are par for the course when you are in a melting pot.

Not they are not. What a weak, passive attitude.

Really? LoL you re the one who is a sensitive little doll.

Why? Because I noticed? Because I wasn't just going to hide behind the cantaloupe and skulk away?

 

[Unkotare]

... Is the American culture coarser thanmost and wide open to accepting out of bounds behavior?

American culture is much better than most in this regard.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

But you notice, right? And you do nothing? Keep your head down and move on?

Unless you want to fight everybody, yes.

Bingo. Racist remarks are par for the course when you are in a melting pot.

Not they are not. What a weak, passive attitude.

Really? LoL you re the one who is a sensitive little doll.

Why? Because I noticed? Because I wasn't just going to hide behind the cantaloupe and skulk away?

And you accomplished what?

 

[miketx]

I went to sleep. That's ok with you, libby?

Sure, get all the rest you need. Got an answer to my question yet?

Sure, it was the post where you were libspeaking. I know I know, which one right? Well, look at most of them.

That’s a total cop out. What specifically about my statement was libspeak?

I'm taking my ball and going home now because I refuse to debate you libs. I'm running away. I got nothing. I am a coward. I am 12 years old. I'm a misogynist. I'm a nazi, There, you can relax.

I promise I won’t debate you. I just want to know what you think was libspeak from my statement that you responded to. I’m curious if you can even point to something you disagree with... My guess is you didn’t even read it but I’d love for you to prove me wrong.

You guys don't do proof.

 

[Slade3200]

Sure, get all the rest you need. Got an answer to my question yet?

Sure, it was the post where you were libspeaking. I know I know, which one right? Well, look at most of them.

That’s a total cop out. What specifically about my statement was libspeak?

I'm taking my ball and going home now because I refuse to debate you libs. I'm running away. I got nothing. I am a coward. I am 12 years old. I'm a misogynist. I'm a nazi, There, you can relax.

I promise I won’t debate you. I just want to know what you think was libspeak from my statement that you responded to. I’m curious if you can even point to something you disagree with... My guess is you didn’t even read it but I’d love for you to prove me wrong.

You guys don't do proof.

I didn’t say a word about proof. I simply asked what I said that you consider libspeak or what did I say that you disagree with. Come on, stop squirming and just answer the question. You obviously took issue with something so what exactly is it? Grow up and have a real conversation for a change

 

[miketx]

Sure, it was the post where you were libspeaking. I know I know, which one right? Well, look at most of them.

That’s a total cop out. What specifically about my statement was libspeak?

I'm taking my ball and going home now because I refuse to debate you libs. I'm running away. I got nothing. I am a coward. I am 12 years old. I'm a misogynist. I'm a nazi, There, you can relax.

I promise I won’t debate you. I just want to know what you think was libspeak from my statement that you responded to. I’m curious if you can even point to something you disagree with... My guess is you didn’t even read it but I’d love for you to prove me wrong.

You guys don't do proof.

I didn’t say a word about proof. I simply asked what I said that you consider libspeak or what did I say that you disagree with. Come on, stop squirming and just answer the question. You obviously took issue with something so what exactly is it? Grow up and have a real conversation for a change

Classic libspeak, ignores what he said and denies he said it when everyone can see he said it.

didn’t even read it but I’d love for you to prove me wrong.

 

[Unkotare]

Unless you want to fight everybody, yes.

Bingo. Racist remarks are par for the course when you are in a melting pot.

Not they are not. What a weak, passive attitude.

Really? LoL you re the one who is a sensitive little doll.

Why? Because I noticed? Because I wasn't just going to hide behind the cantaloupe and skulk away?

And you accomplished what?

What is required to make it worthwhile to do the right thing? Are you on the clock whenever you are simply a decent human being?

 

[Marion Morrison]

So I’m in my local grocery store this morning picking up some fresh produce to make a nice lunch for my son after football practice and I notice a couple of workers restocking one section of the produce area. They are chatting with each other in Spanish, which is fine, when a few customers walk past them who happened to be Asian. The two of them start talking, apparently without concern, making all manner of very inappropriate comments about Asian people ( they were referring to them as Chinese, of course, which is something that a lot of ignorant people do as a blanket term for anyone from anywhere in Asia). They were not whispering to each other either. Obviously they assumed no Asian customers would understand what they were saying so they were standing 4 or 5 feet away making openly racist, insulting comments. When they noticed that I was looking at them clearly understanding what they said and walking towards their area they quickly found someplace else to be. And that was it. Not the end of the world, not a civil rights crisis, but something that made me feel pretty uncomfortable about where some people still are with their whole attitude about these things.

I think it's the time in our culture that we need to have thought police to monitor what we think.
All in favor say, "I".

Who really cares? Expressing how a person feels is not on, or ever will be on my radar.

Is making jackass racist comments "expressing how a person feels"? Are they bearing their souls and plumbing the depths of their feeeeeelings, or just being assholes? And if some punks are out in a public space with you looking at some 'X' (race, gender, religion, etc) people making jackass comments because they know they won't be heard or understood, you wouldn't even notice? Not talking about smiting them with your swift sword of justice, just asking if it wouldn't so much as catch your attention?

What dialect were they using?

 

[Slade3200]

That’s a total cop out. What specifically about my statement was libspeak?

I'm taking my ball and going home now because I refuse to debate you libs. I'm running away. I got nothing. I am a coward. I am 12 years old. I'm a misogynist. I'm a nazi, There, you can relax.

I promise I won’t debate you. I just want to know what you think was libspeak from my statement that you responded to. I’m curious if you can even point to something you disagree with... My guess is you didn’t even read it but I’d love for you to prove me wrong.

You guys don't do proof.

I didn’t say a word about proof. I simply asked what I said that you consider libspeak or what did I say that you disagree with. Come on, stop squirming and just answer the question. You obviously took issue with something so what exactly is it? Grow up and have a real conversation for a change

Classic libspeak, ignores what he said and denies he said it when everyone can see he said it.

didn’t even read it but I’d love for you to prove me wrong.

Oh, you’re right, you totally got me, I did say prove. You win. So back to my original question and statement. What did I say that was libspeak or that you disagree with?