UN Vote on Palestinian State in September 2011

[docmauser1]

"Towards the end of the First World War, when it was clear Britain was going to take over Palestine, the leader of the Zionists at the time, Chaim Weitzmann, contacted the British foreign secretary, Arthur Balfour, getting from him, on 2 November 1917, a declaration promising the Jews a homeland in Palestine." What moral authority did Arthur have to make that promise?

All this is nice, babbly and irrelevant. Where is a british government official declaration, announcing the creation of the state of Israel, to back the drivel up?

 

[docmauser1]

Israel is a project of the world's criminal class. It was a simple case of armed robbery.

Drivel.

 

[P F Tinmore]

"Towards the end of the First World War, when it was clear Britain was going to take over Palestine, the leader of the Zionists at the time, Chaim Weitzmann, contacted the British foreign secretary, Arthur Balfour, getting from him, on 2 November 1917, a declaration promising the Jews a homeland in Palestine." What moral authority did Arthur have to make that promise?

All this is nice, babbly and irrelevant. Where is a british government official declaration, announcing the creation of the state of Israel, to back the drivel up?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm7dMhE80dw]YouTube - Alnakba English P1[/ame]

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Everyone here should watch the movie "Exodus" with Paul Newman and Eva Marie Saint. It shows how the British tried to prevent the Jews from entering Palestine.

 

[georgephillip]

When the events depicted in "Exodus" occurred two out of every three inhabitants of Palestine were not Jews. Any semblance of a free election at that time would not have resulted in a Jewish state.

In 1960 when "Exodus" premiered Israel had yet to conquer the West Bank and Gaza. When most Americans of that time thought about Israel it was always in reference to the Holocaust. No one I knew had ever heard about Al Nakba, the ethnic cleansing of hundreds of thousands of Arabs from lands they had lived on for generations. Maybe Paul and Eva and Otto knew but if they did, they didn't spread the word.

 

[docmauser1]

In 1960 when "Exodus" premiered Israel had yet to conquer the West Bank and Gaza. When most Americans of that time thought about Israel it was always in reference to the Holocaust. No one I knew had ever heard about Al Nakba, the ethnic cleansing of hundreds of thousands of Arabs from lands they had lived on for generations.

Droovel.

 

[georgephillip]

Your middle name?

 

[Trajan]

Germany, France and Britain want negotiations based on June '67 boundaries while Israel argues against that suggestion because it "predetermines the outcome."

Apparently, at the moment only the Obama administration among members of the quartet (UN, EU and Russia) has not formally committed to the June '67 lines as a starting point for negotiations.

"Israel, which has settled hundreds of thousands of Jews inside the West Bank and East Jerusalem, acknowledges that it will have to withdraw from much of the land it now occupies there.

"But it hopes to hold onto the largest settlement blocs and much of East Jerusalem as well as the border to the east with Jordan and does not want to enter into talks with the other side’s position as the starting point."

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/03/world/middleeast/03mideast.html?_r=1

considering their history Germany, France and Britain can go have sex with themselves.

 

[georgephillip]

"The American people seem to be getting it.

"According to a poll released Monday by the right-wing Israel Project, only 51% of Americans oppose a unilateral Palestinian declaration of independence. 54% favor a Palestinian state achieved through negotiations.

"For those familiar with polling on matters relating to Israelis and Palestinians, the results are startling.

"The percentage of support for the Israeli position is usually in the high 70s, while support for the Palestinians is in the teens.

"Suddenly there is a major shift, and this in a poll sponsored by an organization that clearly did not want to see findings like these."

MJ Rosenberg: Poll Shows U.S. Public Evenly Divided on Unilateral Palestinian State

 

[docmauser1]

Your middle name?

That's a stupidly funny predictable bullshit reponse, of course. By the way, did the "marxists" attach a british government official declaration, announcing the creation of the state of Israel, to back their drivel up, yet?

 

[docmauser1]

"The American people seem to be getting it.

No, they don't. Their wet dream of seeing the state of palistan in their time will end in the palistanian santa, furnishing them with yet $5 billion bill for it.

 

[pKaiser]

At last the Palestinians have come up with a strategy that will help them reach their goals. Gandhi, Mandela, and King got it to work for them against even more powerful oppressors. In September we will see a great moral defeat for the US-Israel axis, on the way to either a one or two state solution.

 

[docmauser1]

At last the Palestinians have come up with a strategy that will help them reach their goals. Gandhi, Mandela, and King got it to work for them against even more powerful oppressors. In September we will see a great moral defeat for the US-Israel axis, on the way to either a one or two state solution.

Funny drivel.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

At last the Palestinians have come up with a strategy that will help them reach their goals. Gandhi, Mandela, and King got it to work for them against even more powerful oppressors. In September we will see a great moral defeat for the US-Israel axis, on the way to either a one or two state solution.

Mr. Tinmore, are you against the U.N. vote? If you are, then why are you sabatoging your own cause?

 

[P F Tinmore]

At last the Palestinians have come up with a strategy that will help them reach their goals. Gandhi, Mandela, and King got it to work for them against even more powerful oppressors. In September we will see a great moral defeat for the US-Israel axis, on the way to either a one or two state solution.

Mr. Tinmore, are you against the U.N. vote? If you are, then why are you sabatoging your own cause?

Yes I am. I think it is a bad move.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

At last the Palestinians have come up with a strategy that will help them reach their goals. Gandhi, Mandela, and King got it to work for them against even more powerful oppressors. In September we will see a great moral defeat for the US-Israel axis, on the way to either a one or two state solution.

Mr. Tinmore, are you against the U.N. vote? If you are, then why are you sabatoging your own cause?

Yes I am. I think it is a bad move.

And what is a "good move" to you? Shooting crude rockets into kindergartens?