UN Vote on Palestinian State in September 2011

[docmauser1]

By an overwhelming majority the populations of all Muslim countries currently hate and fear Israel (and the US) primarily because of the Israeli occupation of Palestine which could not exist without US support.

There's no occupation of palistan, the ICJ and Abu Masen said so. Forget it.

 

[CMike]

True. UN General Assembly resolution 181 means nothing.

Israel is a state because of the IDF not because of the UN .

OK, but that creates a particular problem for Israel. Israel has never won a defensive war with Palestine. Israel has never won any Palestinian land.

There never was a Palestine.

 

[Jos]

There never was a Palestine.

You win a coin

 

[Shogun]

There never was a Palestine.

You win a coin

Shhhhh... reality is antisemitic.

 

[georgephillip]

By an overwhelming majority the populations of all Muslim countries currently hate and fear Israel (and the US) primarily because of the Israeli occupation of Palestine which could not exist without US support.

There's no occupation of palistan, the ICJ and Abu Masen said so. Forget it.

Soon there will be no occupation of Palestine.

Possibly the Zionists can work a deal with Mubarak?

Gaddafi maybe?

Samson?

 

[georgephillip]

Israel is a state because of the IDF not because of the UN .

OK, but that creates a particular problem for Israel. Israel has never won a defensive war with Palestine. Israel has never won any Palestinian land.

There never was a Palestine.

"The United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine was a resolution adopted on 29 November 1947 by the General Assembly of the United Nations. Its title was United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181 (II) Future Government of Palestine.

United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel is a state because of the IDF not because of the UN .

OK, but that creates a particular problem for Israel. Israel has never won a defensive war with Palestine. Israel has never won any Palestinian land.

There never was a Palestine.

The U.S. State Department Digest of International Law says that the terms of the Treaty of Lausanne provided for the application of the principles of state succession to the "A" Mandates. The Treaty of Versailles (1920) provisionally recognized the former Ottoman communities as independent nations. It also required Germany to recognize the disposition of the former Ottoman territories and to recognize the new states laid down within their boundaries. The Treaty of Lausanne required the newly created states that acquired the territory to pay annuities on the Ottoman public debt, and to assume responsibility for the administration of concessions that had been granted by the Ottomans. A dispute regarding the status of the territories was settled by an Arbitrator appointed by the Council of the League of Nations. It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties. In its Judgment No. 5, The Mavrommatis Palestine Concessions, the Permanent Court of International Justice also decided that Palestine was responsible as the successor state for concessions granted by Ottoman authorities. The Courts of Palestine and Great Britain decided that title to the properties shown on the Ottoman Civil list had been ceded to the government of Palestine as an allied successor state.[16]

State of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[docmauser1]

By an overwhelming majority the populations of all Muslim countries currently hate and fear Israel (and the US) primarily because of the Israeli occupation of Palestine which could not exist without US support.

There's no occupation of palistan, the ICJ and Abu Masen said so. Forget it.

Soon there will be no occupation of Palestine.

Are palistanians planning on changing their occupation?

 

[docmauser1]

"The United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine was a resolution adopted on 29 November 1947 by the General Assembly of the United Nations. Its title was United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181 (II) Future Government of Palestine.

• The resolution, which arabs happily dissed, of course. The UNSCOP reported to the Security Council on Feb.16, 1948:
  "Powerful Arab interests, both inside and outside Palestine, are defying the resolution of the General Assembly and are engaged in a deliberate effort to alter by force the settlement envisaged therein." No need to thump the resolution like a bible.
• There has never been an arab state of "palestine" in history, of course.

 

[docmauser1]

The U.S. State Department Digest of International Law says that the terms of the Treaty of Lausanne provided for the application of the principles of state succession to the "A" Mandates. ...

Did the "U.S. State Department" notice that, Palestine was not an "A" mandate, too?

 

[P F Tinmore]

The U.S. State Department Digest of International Law says that the terms of the Treaty of Lausanne provided for the application of the principles of state succession to the "A" Mandates. ...

Did the "U.S. State Department" notice that, Palestine was not an "A" mandate, too?

It doesn't matter what outsiders think. Palestine belongs to the Palestinians.
The opinions of outsiders is just that.

The opinions of outsiders.

 

[georgephillip]

"The United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine was a resolution adopted on 29 November 1947 by the General Assembly of the United Nations. Its title was United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181 (II) Future Government of Palestine.

• The resolution, which arabs happily dissed, of course. The UNSCOP reported to the Security Council on Feb.16, 1948:
  "Powerful Arab interests, both inside and outside Palestine, are defying the resolution of the General Assembly and are engaged in a deliberate effort to alter by force the settlement envisaged therein." No need to thump the resolution like a bible.
• There has never been an arab state of "palestine" in history, of course.

Apparently a few people at the UN in 1947 believed a place called Palestine existed. Two-thirds of the voters in that place did NOT want a Jewish state created.

That mistake is about to be repealed.

Get over it.

 

[docmauser1]

The U.S. State Department Digest of International Law says that the terms of the Treaty of Lausanne provided for the application of the principles of state succession to the "A" Mandates. ...

Did the "U.S. State Department" notice that, Palestine was not an "A" mandate, too?

It doesn't matter what outsiders think.

Indeed, we should stop bringing ignorant US State Department drivel up, shouldn't we?

Palestine belongs to the Palestinians.

Palistanians, being an Arafat's invention, should be grateful they're given something for nothing, of course.

The opinions of outsiders is just that.
The opinions of outsiders.

Yes, yes, we've established that the US State Department and palistanian agitprop are dumb.

 

[docmauser1]

"The United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine was a resolution adopted on 29 November 1947 by the General Assembly of the United Nations. Its title was United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181 (II) Future Government of Palestine.

• The resolution, which arabs happily dissed, of course. The UNSCOP reported to the Security Council on Feb.16, 1948:
  "Powerful Arab interests, both inside and outside Palestine, are defying the resolution of the General Assembly and are engaged in a deliberate effort to alter by force the settlement envisaged therein." No need to thump the resolution like a bible.
• There has never been an arab state of "palestine" in history, of course.

Apparently a few people at the UN in 1947 believed a place called Palestine existed. Two-thirds of the voters in that place did NOT want a Jewish state created.

Well, since "two-thirds of" whoever buried an arab state, which was to be created under the resolution 181 too, they don't really have to be bitter, bitching about their bitching, of course. Don't cry for me palaeeeeesteeenaaaaa ....

 

[georgephillip]

• The resolution, which arabs happily dissed, of course. The UNSCOP reported to the Security Council on Feb.16, 1948:
  "Powerful Arab interests, both inside and outside Palestine, are defying the resolution of the General Assembly and are engaged in a deliberate effort to alter by force the settlement envisaged therein." No need to thump the resolution like a bible.
• There has never been an arab state of "palestine" in history, of course.

Apparently a few people at the UN in 1947 believed a place called Palestine existed. Two-thirds of the voters in that place did NOT want a Jewish state created.

Well, since "two-thirds of" whoever buried an arab state, which was to be created under the resolution 181 too, they don't really have to be bitter, bitching about their bitching, of course. Don't cry for me palaeeeeesteeenaaaaa ....

By what moral authority was a Jewish state created in a land that was two-thirds non-Jewish?

Did Britain's desire for their own little loyal Jewish Ulster have anything to do with it.

Do those who get rich from war deserve your allegiance?

 

[docmauser1]

Apparently a few people at the UN in 1947 believed a place called Palestine existed. Two-thirds of the voters in that place did NOT want a Jewish state created.

Well, since "two-thirds of" whoever buried an arab state, which was to be created under the resolution 181 too, they don't really have to be bitter, bitching about their bitching, of course. Don't cry for me palaeeeeesteeenaaaaa ....

By what moral authority was a Jewish state created in a land that was two-thirds non-Jewish?

By moral authority of protecting jooz from arab thugs of the largely immigrant origin, criminally posessed by the idea of murdering jooz and plundering of the jovish property, of course. Is that enough?

Did Britain's desire for their own little loyal Jewish Ulster have anything to do with it. Do those who get rich from war deserve your allegiance?

Stupid babble in view of the fact that, the british didn't create Israel.

 

[georgephillip]

You're at risk of losing your hasbara charter.

Does the phrase "Orangemen of Palestine" sound familiar?

"Towards the end of the First World War, when it was clear Britain was going to take over Palestine, the leader of the Zionists at the time, Chaim Weitzmann, contacted the British foreign secretary, Arthur Balfour, getting from him, on 2 November 1917, a declaration promising the Jews a homeland in Palestine.

"Sir Ronald Storrs, the first British military governor of Jerusalem, explained that the Zionist 'enterprise was one that blessed him that gave as well as him that took, by forming for England "a little loyal Jewish Ulster" in a sea of potentially hostile Arabism.' The Zionists would be the Orangemen of Palestine.

"With the Second World War it became clear that the main power in the Middle East would cease to be Britain and would be the United States.

"Ben Gurion, the Zionist leader at the time, therefore rushed to Washington to cement deals with the United States. Israel is now the most reliable satellite of the United States.

"It is not for nothing that Israel gets more economic aid from the United States than any other country, even though it is so tiny. It also gets more military aid than any other country in the world."

Tony Cliff: The Jews, Israel and the Holocaust (1998)

Now whine about Marxists

 

[docmauser1]

Now whine about Marxists

Indeed, they forgot to attach a british government official declaration, announcing the creation of the state of Israel, to back their drivel up.

 

[georgephillip]

"Towards the end of the First World War, when it was clear Britain was going to take over Palestine, the leader of the Zionists at the time, Chaim Weitzmann, contacted the British foreign secretary, Arthur Balfour, getting from him, on 2 November 1917, a declaration promising the Jews a homeland in Palestine."

What moral authority did Arthur have to make that promise?

Tony Cliff: The Jews, Israel and the Holocaust (1998)

 

[P F Tinmore]

"Towards the end of the First World War, when it was clear Britain was going to take over Palestine, the leader of the Zionists at the time, Chaim Weitzmann, contacted the British foreign secretary, Arthur Balfour, getting from him, on 2 November 1917, a declaration promising the Jews a homeland in Palestine."

What moral authority did Arthur have to make that promise?

Tony Cliff: The Jews, Israel and the Holocaust (1998)

Israel is a project of the world's criminal class. It was a simple case of armed robbery.