UN Small Arms Treaty Dead in the Water

[hortysir]

UN states fail to reach global arms trade treaty
(huffy-puff....did I do it right?!)

U.N. member states have failed to reach agreement on a new treaty to regulate the multibillion dollar global arms trade. Some diplomats and treaty supporters blamed the United States for triggering the unraveling of the month-long negotiating conference.

 

[g5000]

Whaaaaaaaaat!?!?! You mean OBAMA KILLED THE TREATY?!?!

That is SO different than what the loons were saying he was going to do.

 

[hortysir]

Whaaaaaaaaat!?!?! You mean OBAMA KILLED THE TREATY?!?!

That is SO different than what the loons were saying he was going to do.

**** In Washington, a bipartisan group of 51 senators on Thursday threatened to oppose the treaty if it falls short in protecting Americans' constitutional right to bear arms. In a letter to President Barack Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, the senators expressed serious concerns with the draft treaty that has circulated at the United Nations, saying that it signals an expansion of gun control that would be unacceptable. ****

 

[g5000]

Doe s...no t...com pute.

Obama was supposed to be coming for our guns today. It is July 27. G-Day.

Zero hour. The end of the 2nd Amendment. I saw the treaty. I read it. It said "Obama must take all guns from America." It was right there in black and white. Everybody saw it. They went on and on and on about it. They all had an advance copy.

 

[g5000]

Whaaaaaaaaat!?!?! You mean OBAMA KILLED THE TREATY?!?!

That is SO different than what the loons were saying he was going to do.

**** In Washington, a bipartisan group of 51 senators on Thursday threatened to oppose the treaty if it falls short in protecting Americans' constitutional right to bear arms. In a letter to President Barack Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, the senators expressed serious concerns with the draft treaty that has circulated at the United Nations, saying that it signals an expansion of gun control that would be unacceptable. ****

That is not what killed the treaty.

Keep reading.

 

[Charles_Main]

UN states fail to reach global arms trade treaty
(huffy-puff....did I do it right?!)

U.N. member states have failed to reach agreement on a new treaty to regulate the multibillion dollar global arms trade. Some diplomats and treaty supporters blamed the United States for triggering the unraveling of the month-long negotiating conference.

Good, I have a real Issue with the UN having any kind of authority what so ever over this country. Thank you very much.

 

[g5000]

It would require all countries to establish national regulations to control the transfer of conventional arms and to regulate arms brokers, and would prohibit states that ratify the treaty from transferring conventional weapons that violate arms embargoes or facilitate acts of genocide, crimes against humanity or war crimes.

In considering whether to authorize the export of arms, the draft says a country must evaluate whether the weapon would be used to violate international human rights or humanitarian laws or be used by terrorists or organized crime – and if there is "a substantial risk" the treaty would prohibit the transfer.

What? This is about keeping guns away from TERRORISTS? Well NO WONDER Republicans are against it!

But...but...but...the gun makers told me this was an "Obama comes for your guns" treaty! They wouldn't lie just because this treaty affects their bottom line, would they?

Naaaaaaah!

The United States objected to any requirement to report on exports of ammunition and that remains out of the latest draft.

So the gun makers can ship all the bullets they want to terrorists without reporting it, just no small arms.

That makes sense!

 

[buckeye45_73]

It would require all countries to establish national regulations to control the transfer of conventional arms and to regulate arms brokers, and would prohibit states that ratify the treaty from transferring conventional weapons that violate arms embargoes or facilitate acts of genocide, crimes against humanity or war crimes.

In considering whether to authorize the export of arms, the draft says a country must evaluate whether the weapon would be used to violate international human rights or humanitarian laws or be used by terrorists or organized crime – and if there is "a substantial risk" the treaty would prohibit the transfer.

What? This is about keeping guns away from TERRORISTS? Well NO WONDER Republicans are against it!

But...but...but...the gun makers told me this was an "Obama comes for your guns" treaty! They wouldn't lie just because this treaty affects their bottom line, would they?

Naaaaaaah!

The United States objected to any requirement to report on exports of ammunition and that remains out of the latest draft.

So the gun makers can ship all the bullets they want to terrorists without reporting it, just no small arms.

That makes sense!

'

yeah you're right terrorists and criminals follow the law, so of course this was a great idea! WOW!

 

[hortysir]

Whaaaaaaaaat!?!?! You mean OBAMA KILLED THE TREATY?!?!

That is SO different than what the loons were saying he was going to do.

**** In Washington, a bipartisan group of 51 senators on Thursday threatened to oppose the treaty if it falls short in protecting Americans' constitutional right to bear arms. In a letter to President Barack Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, the senators expressed serious concerns with the draft treaty that has circulated at the United Nations, saying that it signals an expansion of gun control that would be unacceptable. ****

That is not what killed the treaty.

Keep reading.

I know we weren't alone in our dissent.

I'm just glad that our representative actually spoke up and represented.

 

[B. Kidd]

Too much money to be made in arms dealings. Some even goes to politicians. Geez, what a surprise.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Too much money to be made in arms dealings. Some even goes to politicians. Geez, what a surprise.

It has something to do with the constitution too. Guns don't kill people, but people that use them to kill people are the ones killing people. Think of drugs or booze(1910's) did that stop someone that wanted to break the law from getting those items? No, but it does stop good people from being able to defend themselves.

Chicago has gun bans, but you hear nearly daily of 3, 4, 10 people being gunned down. None of these laws are effective.

 

[ScienceRocks]

UN states fail to reach global arms trade treaty
(huffy-puff....did I do it right?!)

U.N. member states have failed to reach agreement on a new treaty to regulate the multibillion dollar global arms trade. Some diplomats and treaty supporters blamed the United States for triggering the unraveling of the month-long negotiating conference.

Good, I have a real Issue with the UN having any kind of authority what so ever over this country. Thank you very much.

The UN was made to be a debate society, but has turned into something much uglier.

 

[Moonglow]

I am just amazed how nice the Obama haters are right now.

 

[B. Kidd]

Too much money to be made in arms dealings. Some even goes to politicians. Geez, what a surprise.

It has something to do with the constitution too. Guns don't kill people, but people that use them to kill people are the ones killing people. Think of drugs or booze(1910's) did that stop someone that wanted to break the law from getting those items? No, but it does stop good people from being able to defend themselves.

Chicago has gun bans, but you hear nearly daily of 3, 4, 10 people being gunned down. None of these laws are effective.

Not talking about the small stuff. Talking about military grade international stuff. More lucrative for politicians from all countries then the drug trade.
Sheesh, broaden your horizons, son.

Trade Shows Worldwide - Defense - Europe

Where enemies mingle over champagne and act kindly towards each other.

 

[hjmick]

Whaaaaaaaaat!?!?! You mean OBAMA KILLED THE TREATY?!?!

That is SO different than what the loons were saying he was going to do.

Not exactly, but whatever.

 

[Moonglow]

The US is the leader in arms sales.

here are the anti-guns people

Christian Leaders Urge Control Over Arms and Ammunitions in UN Treaty
Read more at Christian Leaders Urge Control Over Arms and Ammunitions in UN Treaty

 

[B. Kidd]

The US is the leader in arms sales.

here are the anti-guns people

Christian Leaders Urge Control Over Arms and Ammunitions in UN Treaty
Read more at Christian Leaders Urge Control Over Arms and Ammunitions in UN Treaty

Dig it!
The five permanent members of the U.N. Security council are the largest arms dealers.
Thought it was common knowledge.....

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38vd_j7e2HY]Lord of War - Nicolas Cage's Speech Intro and Outro - YouTube[/ame]

 

[buckeye45_73]

The US is the leader in arms sales.

here are the anti-guns people

Christian Leaders Urge Control Over Arms and Ammunitions in UN Treaty
Read more at Christian Leaders Urge Control Over Arms and Ammunitions in UN Treaty

yeah those are the liberal churches....the US branch has this statement

Social and political advocacy
The member churches have engaged on issues of public policy and moral values, including by adopting the "Social Creed of the Churches" in 1908, a document which was updated by the NCC General Assembly in 2007.[5]
The Council has supported minimum wage laws,[6] environmentalist policies, and affirmative action,[7] and played a significant role in the civil rights movement in the 1960s.[8]
NCC partners with other faith-based groups, such as Bread for the World, Habitat for Humanity, and Children's Defense Fund, to press for broad policy initiatives that address poverty issues.[9] The Council helped launch the Let Justice Roll grassroots anti-poverty campaign that has been successful in raising the minimum wage in more than 20 states since 2005.[10]
In July 2005, the Antiochian Orthodox Church suspended its participation in the NCC because, according to an assistant to the denomination's senior cleric, "the NCC...seems to have taken a turn toward political positioning .
They are nutty, social gospel types,

Here is the epitomny of them :
John Shelby Spong - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He states that he is a Christian because he believes that Jesus Christ fully expressed the presence of a God of compassion and selfless love and that this is the meaning of the early Christian proclamation,

In other words he's not a Christian, he think Jesus is a good ideal but didnt exist....

 

[hortysir]

I am just amazed how nice the Obama haters are right now.

Obama *policy* haters

fixed it for ya


When his policies align, there's nothing to "hate"

 

[buckeye45_73]

I am just amazed how nice the Obama haters are right now.

Obama *policy* haters

fixed it for ya


When his policies align, there's nothing to "hate"

no kidding, I'd have voted for Cain, but he didnt make it.