Ukrainians are invited to freeze to death at home

[Toddsterpatriot]

Why do you constantly pretend the US hasn't been working with Nazis to destabilize Russia since 1945?

Poor Russia, never did nothin' to nobody, eh comrade?

 

[AlexanderPK]

Poor Russia, never did nothin' to nobody, eh comrade?

Are you the one who used to be with the clown face? What's the deep meaning hidden behind the new one?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Are you the one who used to be with the clown face? What's the deep meaning hidden behind the new one?

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[Nobody911]

There are thousands reasons to let a non Pro-Ukrainian thread suddenly disappear on USMB
Western peoples shall consume lies of MS whores, another opinions aren't welcome and gonna be blamed as 'trolling', 'Putin lies', 'idiocy' etc.
Below is information telling about the real situation in Ukraine now.
Hopefully the thread isn't going to be deleted as 'Putin's Propaganda'

It looks like the Ukrainian energy sector is living its last days and is in a terminal stage. It is separated from the final step into oblivion by a single massive strike of Russian missiles and Geraniums.

The head of Ukrenergo announced that missile strikes had damaged almost all large thermal power plants, hydroelectric power plants, and sub-stations in Ukraine, and that there were no thermal or hydroelectric power plants left undamaged. At that, there are no spare parts even for hypothetical repairs, and the West also reports its inability to provide energy equipment in a short time to restore the ruined power system, which had been built over decades even in Soviet times.

The situation is truly catastrophic, and there are no ways to solve it. The talk about modular reactors that can be hastily assembled by Americans reminds me a lot of Hitler's dream about a "wunderwaffle" that can instantly change the course of the war and turn an unstoppable defeat of Germany into a victory. And, most likely, the Ze-Office is well aware of this.

For example, the head of DTEK, Maxim Timchenko, in an interview with the BBC, urged Ukrainians abroad not to return, and for those who can leave the country to do so before the cold weather sets in.

He, however, almost immediately hastened to realize that he could be accused of alarmism and began explaining that he was suggesting that Ukrainians consider moving in order to reduce the strain on the energy system.

"This is not an emergency situation where you have to evacuate immediately, but we need to organize things so that consumption is as efficient as possible. If you consume less, hospitals with wounded soldiers will be guaranteed electricity," the head of the energy company hastened to soften his first statement.

However, no matter how softened, the UN warned of an impending humanitarian catastrophe in Ukraine as the winter cold approaches.

But besides the UN, the EU warned Kiev using closed channels that the emergence of millions of Ukrainian "heat" refugees in Europe will lead to an immediate curtailment of European aid to the Nazi regime. In addition, they realized that the mass exodus of Ukrainians, which they themselves previously called for, although on the one hand, it removes their concern (or its imitation) for a large part of the population, on the other hand - deprives them of mobilization potential for the AFU, a human shield and many workers, which are still needed even in a stagnant economy. Moreover, it will be much easier for the RF Armed Forces to take empty cities than cities with inhabitants.

In general, having realized everything in time, the Bankova Party demanded that the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) throw all its energy into the fight against the "alarmists," the organizers and participants of the "energy protests," which are particularly widespread in Odessa, where the situation is not the most desperate. The residents blame the authorities, believing that they deceive the population and do not do everything possible to solve the problem.

The Ukrainian "Gestapo" had no better idea than to grab the participants in the protests, force them to ask for forgiveness in front of the camera and repent almost for "collaborationism. In this way, the Nazis seek to stifle protest sentiments at their roots and prevent them from spreading to other cities. All official propaganda is focused on the following narrative: Ukrainians will manage to survive the winter (it does not say how), and in the spring they will attack and defeat the enemy. All those who present a different position are foul-mouthed and FSB agents.

Nevertheless, some Ukrainian TG channels call the Bandera authorities' attempts to prevent panic and protest "especially cynical," because by reassuring Ukrainians and assuring them that the situation is under control, Ze-commando is condemning millions to survival in the cold, in the dark, without normal water supplies, and many to death. All so that the "Western partners," who have put Ukraine into a fratricidal and suicidal war, can spend the winter in relative comfort and continue to supply the Zelensky regime with money and weapons.

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Украинцам предложено замерзать дома

По всей видимости, украинская энергетика доживает свои последние дни и находится в терминальной стадии. От последнего шага в небытие ее отделяет всего один массированный удар российских ракет и

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" Western policymakers have ignored Russian complaints about NATO expansion and NATO involvement in neighboring countries for decades, and that has helped to create the conditions for the crisis we are seeing today. The Western refusal to take Russian security concerns seriously has been a dangerous mistake. NATO is obviously an anti-Russian alliance, and it has arguably become more anti-Russian in the last 15 years, so it is reasonable that Russia views its continued expansion towards them as a security threat. Putting a stop to talk of further expansion is a cost-free way to reduce tensions and avert possible conflict. "

by Daniel Larison

My views : NATO expansion = to maintain unipolar domination

Yeah, Uncle Sam just wants the world to keep worshipping Americanism. Make America great great again! lol.

Reference:Neutrality for Ukraine Is the Right Answer - Antiwar.com Original – Neutrality for Ukraine Is the Right Answer - Antiwar.com Original

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

" Western policymakers have ignored Russian complaints about NATO expansion and NATO involvement in neighboring countries for decades

Of course we've ignored Russian whining.
Russia enslaved Eastern Europe after WWII, Eastern Europe wants protection from Russia.
Russia doesn't like it, too fucking bad.

 

[Litwin]

 

[toomuchtime_]

" Western policymakers have ignored Russian complaints about NATO expansion and NATO involvement in neighboring countries for decades, and that has helped to create the conditions for the crisis we are seeing today. The Western refusal to take Russian security concerns seriously has been a dangerous mistake. NATO is obviously an anti-Russian alliance, and it has arguably become more anti-Russian in the last 15 years, so it is reasonable that Russia views its continued expansion towards them as a security threat. Putting a stop to talk of further expansion is a cost-free way to reduce tensions and avert possible conflict. "

by Daniel Larison

My views : NATO expansion = to maintain unipolar domination

Yeah, Uncle Sam just wants the world to keep worshipping Americanism. Make America great great again! lol.

Reference:Neutrality for Ukraine Is the Right Answer - Antiwar.com Original – Neutrality for Ukraine Is the Right Answer - Antiwar.com Original

All bullshit conspiracy theories. The eastern European countries that joined NATO did so because they wanted to be free from Russian domination and realized they could not defend themselves alone. None of this indicated any aggressive moves against Russia, just defensive moves by the eastern European states to avoid being captured by Russia again.

The fact that Russia sees these purely defensive acts by eastern European countries as aggressive shows that their fears of Russia were well founded.

 

[Litwin]

All bullshit conspiracy theories. The eastern European countries that joined NATO did so because they wanted to be free from Russian domination and realized they could not defend themselves alone. None of this indicated any aggressive moves against Russia, just defensive moves by the eastern European states to avoid being captured by Russia again.

The fact that Russia sees these purely defensive acts by eastern European countries as aggressive shows that their fears of Russia were well founded.

The Ukrainian army has deployed some of its best brigades to eastern Ukraine, including the 92nd and 93rd Mechanized Brigades and the 1st Presidential Brigade. But these elite Ukrainian formations might not be the biggest killer of Russian troops in the east. Under-trained, under-supplied and ambivalently led, Russians in the region are freezing to death by the dozens. Shocking videos that have circulated online in recent weeks tell a tragic story. The videos, shot by the Ukrainian brigades’ hovering drones, depict Russians in the late stages of hypothermia, so cold and sick that they barely react when the drones drop lethal improvised bombs on them. Thomas Theiner, an ex-soldier who currently is a filmmaker in Kyiv, predicted winter “would kill more Russian soldiers than Ukraine ever could.” He may have been right. Winters in Ukraine start wet and cold then get colder and drier. Eastern Ukraine still is in the wet-cold phase—and it’s brutal. Deep mud mires armored vehicles. Daytime temperatures hover around freezing, while nighttime temperates dip closer to zero degrees Fahrenheit. With preparation, sound leadership and reliable logistics, the conditions are survivable. Soldiers bundle up, sleep in roofed, heated trenches with floors, frequently change their wet socks and eat twice as much as they would on warm days. When they get sick, they evacuate to the rear for rest.
The problem, for the Russian army, is that more and more of its troops are untrained draftees. Officers aren’t leading from the front. And Russian logistics are strained by nonstop Ukrainian bombardment. Starving draftees with no gloves or good boots are huddling in shallow, unheated trenches while their officers squat in abandoned houses potentially miles away, unaware or uncaring as their soldiers succumb to the elements. When you’re wet, hungry and exposed to the nighttime cold, it doesn’t take long for hypothermia to set in. One bad night is enough. Even moderate hypothermia can result in confusion, decreased reflexes and loss of motor skills. Which explains the drone massacre that’s been playing out lately over contested eastern towns such as Svatove, Pavlivka and Bakhmut. Hypothermic Russian troops aren’t even trying to flee when Ukraine’s bomb-armed quadcopter drones buzz overhead. The soldiers barely flinch when a bomb explodes in their fighting position. Wounded troops, lying exposed to the elements, are dying before anyone bothers to rescue them. Expect many, many more Russians to freeze to death as the weather gets worse. “Temperatures are forecasted to drop throughout Ukraine over the next week,” the Institute for the Study of War in Washington, D.C. noted on Saturday.

GREAT NEWS ! putin´s pig- dogs Are Freezing To Death In Eastern Ukraine

I highly, highly doubt that the Kremlin´s thugs have issued its invading soldiers any winter kit . The pig- dogs bastards can either flee Ukraine or freeze to death. Russian Soldiers Are Freezing To Death In Eastern Ukraine GREAT NEWS ...

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[georgephillip]

Poor Russia, never did nothin' to nobody, eh comrade?

Killed a lot of Nazis.
Does that make you mad, Kulak?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Killed a lot of Nazis.
Does that make you mad, Kulak?

But they were Hitler's ally........

 

[georgephillip]

" Western policymakers have ignored Russian complaints about NATO expansion and NATO involvement in neighboring countries for decades, and that has helped to create the conditions for the crisis we are seeing today. The Western refusal to take Russian security concerns seriously has been a dangerous mistake. NATO is obviously an anti-Russian alliance, and it has arguably become more anti-Russian in the last 15 years, so it is reasonable that Russia views its continued expansion towards them as a security threat. Putting a stop to talk of further expansion is a cost-free way to reduce tensions and avert possible conflict. "

by Daniel Larison

My views : NATO expansion = to maintain unipolar domination

Yeah, Uncle Sam just wants the world to keep worshipping Americanism. Make America great great again! lol.

Reference:Neutrality for Ukraine Is the Right Answer - Antiwar.com Original – Neutrality for Ukraine Is the Right Answer - Antiwar.com Original

Your link:

"The latest crisis over Ukraine reminds us that we are still dealing with the aftershocks of Bush’s arrogant 'freedom agenda' almost twenty years later.

"Trying to drag Ukraine into a Western orbit has contributed greatly to instability in Europe. It has been entirely unnecessary for US and allied security, and it has been a disaster for Ukraine."

The CIA has been using Nazis to destabilize Ukraine since Operation Red Sox in 1949. For 75 years the plan has been to fight for regime change in Moscow to the last drop of Ukrainian blood. This latest blood-bath happened in an election year, so naturally all the corporate war-whores have done their best to paint Russia as an aggressor instead of as a victim of the US "Investor Class."

 

[georgephillip]

" Western policymakers have ignored Russian complaints about NATO expansion and NATO involvement in neighboring countries for decades, and that has helped to create the conditions for the crisis we are seeing today. The Western refusal to take Russian security concerns seriously has been a dangerous mistake. NATO is obviously an anti-Russian alliance, and it has arguably become more anti-Russian in the last 15 years, so it is reasonable that Russia views its continued expansion towards them as a security threat. Putting a stop to talk of further expansion is a cost-free way to reduce tensions and avert possible conflict. "

by Daniel Larison

My views : NATO expansion = to maintain unipolar domination

Yeah, Uncle Sam just wants the world to keep worshipping Americanism. Make America great great again! lol.

Reference:Neutrality for Ukraine Is the Right Answer - Antiwar.com Original – Neutrality for Ukraine Is the Right Answer - Antiwar.com Original

Your link:

ll bullshit conspiracy theories. The eastern European countries that joined NATO did so because they wanted to be free from Russian domination and realized they could not defend themselves alone

They did so because their economic elites wanted to become US puppets and qualify for IMF "loans" designed to fatten the bottom line$ of oligarch$ while imposing austerity on the vast majority of their productive population.

 

[georgephillip]

But they were Hitler's ally........

They had to stand in line

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

They had to stand in line

Why was your hero, Uncle Joe, an ally of Hitler?

 

[gipper]

Of course we've ignored Russian whining.
Russia enslaved Eastern Europe after WWII, Eastern Europe wants protection from Russia.
Russia doesn't like it, too fucking bad.

Apparently you’re unaware the USSR dissolved peacefully long ago. Think better.

 

[gipper]

Why was your hero, Uncle Joe, an ally of Hitler?

Why was the US an ally of Uncle Joe?

Think better.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Apparently you’re unaware the USSR dissolved peacefully long ago. Think better.

Where do you feel I was discussing the USSR?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Why was the US an ally of Uncle Joe?

Think better.

George first!

 

[gipper]

Where do you feel I was discussing the USSR?

So you don’t know it was the USSR that enslaved Eastern Europe.

Why post in a thread you know nothing about?

 

[José]

Originally posted by toomuchtime
The fact that Russia sees these purely defensive acts by eastern European countries as aggressive shows that their fears of Russia were well founded.

No, the only thing it proves is that Russia is a normal country that doesn't like to have its borders surrounded by military bases that serve the geopolitical interests of foreign powers.

But your post definitely proves something about you, not about Russia.

The fact that America would be doing exactly the same thing, WITH YOUR BLESSING, to prevent any foreign military alliance from setting up bases in neighboring countries proves beyond any reasonable doubt that you are a card carrying super patriotic american clown.