Ukrainians are invited to freeze to death at home

[Litwin]

he runs a pizza joint Lit

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~S~

wrong

Urban Dictionary: zalupa

Russian word for a dick head

www.urbandictionary.com

 

[DGS49]

If I were in Mr. Z's shoes I would have to consider attacking key targets IN RUSSIA. They are vulnerable as fuck, but assume they will not be attacked. Bridges, RR lines, tunnels, power stations, water treatment facilities.

But that's just me.

 

[Baron]

Territory of Ukraine, not your business .

More as 80% of all territorials are former Russian ones

 

[Litwin]

More as 80% of all territorials are former Russian ones

according only your wet imperialist dreams , try with google maps .

 

[toomuchtime_]

There are thousands reasons to let a non Pro-Ukrainian thread suddenly disappear on USMB
Western peoples shall consume lies of MS whores, another opinions aren't welcome and gonna be blamed as 'trolling', 'Putin lies', 'idiocy' etc.
Below is information telling about the real situation in Ukraine now.
Hopefully the thread isn't going to be deleted as 'Putin's Propaganda'

It looks like the Ukrainian energy sector is living its last days and is in a terminal stage. It is separated from the final step into oblivion by a single massive strike of Russian missiles and Geraniums.

The head of Ukrenergo announced that missile strikes had damaged almost all large thermal power plants, hydroelectric power plants, and sub-stations in Ukraine, and that there were no thermal or hydroelectric power plants left undamaged. At that, there are no spare parts even for hypothetical repairs, and the West also reports its inability to provide energy equipment in a short time to restore the ruined power system, which had been built over decades even in Soviet times.

The situation is truly catastrophic, and there are no ways to solve it. The talk about modular reactors that can be hastily assembled by Americans reminds me a lot of Hitler's dream about a "wunderwaffle" that can instantly change the course of the war and turn an unstoppable defeat of Germany into a victory. And, most likely, the Ze-Office is well aware of this.

For example, the head of DTEK, Maxim Timchenko, in an interview with the BBC, urged Ukrainians abroad not to return, and for those who can leave the country to do so before the cold weather sets in.

He, however, almost immediately hastened to realize that he could be accused of alarmism and began explaining that he was suggesting that Ukrainians consider moving in order to reduce the strain on the energy system.

"This is not an emergency situation where you have to evacuate immediately, but we need to organize things so that consumption is as efficient as possible. If you consume less, hospitals with wounded soldiers will be guaranteed electricity," the head of the energy company hastened to soften his first statement.

However, no matter how softened, the UN warned of an impending humanitarian catastrophe in Ukraine as the winter cold approaches.

But besides the UN, the EU warned Kiev using closed channels that the emergence of millions of Ukrainian "heat" refugees in Europe will lead to an immediate curtailment of European aid to the Nazi regime. In addition, they realized that the mass exodus of Ukrainians, which they themselves previously called for, although on the one hand, it removes their concern (or its imitation) for a large part of the population, on the other hand - deprives them of mobilization potential for the AFU, a human shield and many workers, which are still needed even in a stagnant economy. Moreover, it will be much easier for the RF Armed Forces to take empty cities than cities with inhabitants.

In general, having realized everything in time, the Bankova Party demanded that the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) throw all its energy into the fight against the "alarmists," the organizers and participants of the "energy protests," which are particularly widespread in Odessa, where the situation is not the most desperate. The residents blame the authorities, believing that they deceive the population and do not do everything possible to solve the problem.

The Ukrainian "Gestapo" had no better idea than to grab the participants in the protests, force them to ask for forgiveness in front of the camera and repent almost for "collaborationism. In this way, the Nazis seek to stifle protest sentiments at their roots and prevent them from spreading to other cities. All official propaganda is focused on the following narrative: Ukrainians will manage to survive the winter (it does not say how), and in the spring they will attack and defeat the enemy. All those who present a different position are foul-mouthed and FSB agents.

Nevertheless, some Ukrainian TG channels call the Bandera authorities' attempts to prevent panic and protest "especially cynical," because by reassuring Ukrainians and assuring them that the situation is under control, Ze-commando is condemning millions to survival in the cold, in the dark, without normal water supplies, and many to death. All so that the "Western partners," who have put Ukraine into a fratricidal and suicidal war, can spend the winter in relative comfort and continue to supply the Zelensky regime with money and weapons.

Translated from:

Украинцам предложено замерзать дома

По всей видимости, украинская энергетика доживает свои последние дни и находится в терминальной стадии. От последнего шага в небытие ее отделяет всего один массированный удар российских ракет и

oko-planet.su

Here you are giddy with happiness that Russia is trying to commit a second genocide against the Ukrainian people. Proof positive the Russians are in no way morally superior to the Nazis.

 

[sparky]

NATO ....sorry Ukraine used the time to rebuild the army and to prepare it to the war

as did we installing who we'd like to go along with it all Baron

~S~

 

[sparky]

More as 80% of all territorials are former Russian ones

in other words, they've been in a civil war for 4 centuries....

~S~

 

[Litwin]

Here you are giddy with happiness that Russia is trying to commit a second genocide against the Ukrainian people. Proof positive the Russians are in no way morally superior to the Nazis.

+1

 

[georgephillip]

There are thousands reasons to let a non Pro-Ukrainian thread suddenly disappear on USMB
Western peoples shall consume lies of MS whores, another opinions aren't welcome and gonna be blamed as 'trolling', 'Putin lies', 'idiocy' etc.
Below is information telling about the real situation in Ukraine now.
Hopefully the thread isn't going to be deleted as 'Putin's Propaganda'

It looks like the Ukrainian energy sector is living its last days and is in a terminal stage. It is separated from the final step into oblivion by a single massive strike of Russian missiles and Geraniums.

The head of Ukrenergo announced that missile strikes had damaged almost all large thermal power plants, hydroelectric power plants, and sub-stations in Ukraine, and that there were no thermal or hydroelectric power plants left undamaged. At that, there are no spare parts even for hypothetical repairs, and the West also reports its inability to provide energy equipment in a short time to restore the ruined power system, which had been built over decades even in Soviet times.

The situation is truly catastrophic, and there are no ways to solve it. The talk about modular reactors that can be hastily assembled by Americans reminds me a lot of Hitler's dream about a "wunderwaffle" that can instantly change the course of the war and turn an unstoppable defeat of Germany into a victory. And, most likely, the Ze-Office is well aware of this.

For example, the head of DTEK, Maxim Timchenko, in an interview with the BBC, urged Ukrainians abroad not to return, and for those who can leave the country to do so before the cold weather sets in.

He, however, almost immediately hastened to realize that he could be accused of alarmism and began explaining that he was suggesting that Ukrainians consider moving in order to reduce the strain on the energy system.

"This is not an emergency situation where you have to evacuate immediately, but we need to organize things so that consumption is as efficient as possible. If you consume less, hospitals with wounded soldiers will be guaranteed electricity," the head of the energy company hastened to soften his first statement.

However, no matter how softened, the UN warned of an impending humanitarian catastrophe in Ukraine as the winter cold approaches.

But besides the UN, the EU warned Kiev using closed channels that the emergence of millions of Ukrainian "heat" refugees in Europe will lead to an immediate curtailment of European aid to the Nazi regime. In addition, they realized that the mass exodus of Ukrainians, which they themselves previously called for, although on the one hand, it removes their concern (or its imitation) for a large part of the population, on the other hand - deprives them of mobilization potential for the AFU, a human shield and many workers, which are still needed even in a stagnant economy. Moreover, it will be much easier for the RF Armed Forces to take empty cities than cities with inhabitants.

In general, having realized everything in time, the Bankova Party demanded that the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) throw all its energy into the fight against the "alarmists," the organizers and participants of the "energy protests," which are particularly widespread in Odessa, where the situation is not the most desperate. The residents blame the authorities, believing that they deceive the population and do not do everything possible to solve the problem.

The Ukrainian "Gestapo" had no better idea than to grab the participants in the protests, force them to ask for forgiveness in front of the camera and repent almost for "collaborationism. In this way, the Nazis seek to stifle protest sentiments at their roots and prevent them from spreading to other cities. All official propaganda is focused on the following narrative: Ukrainians will manage to survive the winter (it does not say how), and in the spring they will attack and defeat the enemy. All those who present a different position are foul-mouthed and FSB agents.

Nevertheless, some Ukrainian TG channels call the Bandera authorities' attempts to prevent panic and protest "especially cynical," because by reassuring Ukrainians and assuring them that the situation is under control, Ze-commando is condemning millions to survival in the cold, in the dark, without normal water supplies, and many to death. All so that the "Western partners," who have put Ukraine into a fratricidal and suicidal war, can spend the winter in relative comfort and continue to supply the Zelensky regime with money and weapons.

Translated from:

Украинцам предложено замерзать дома

По всей видимости, украинская энергетика доживает свои последние дни и находится в терминальной стадии. От последнего шага в небытие ее отделяет всего один массированный удар российских ракет и

oko-planet.su

What if 500 years of Western control is coming to an end in Ukraine?

French ambassador: U.S. ‘rules-based order’ means Western domination, violating international law | MR Online

"France’s former ambassador to the United States, Gérard Araud, has publicly criticized Washington, saying it frequently violates international law and that its so-called 'rules-based order' is actually an unfair “Western order.”

"The top French diplomat warned that the United States is engaged in “economic warfare” against China, and that Europe is concerned about Washington’s 'containment policy,' because many European countries do not want to be forced to 'choose a camp' in a new cold war.

Araud condemned U.S. diplomats for insisting that Washington must always be the 'leader' of the world, and stressed that the West should work with other countries in the Global South, 'on an equal basis,' in order 'to find a compromise with our own interests.'

"He cautioned against making 'maximalist' demands, 'of simply trying to keep the Western hegemony.'"

 

[alexa]

That does seem to be what is happening. While we are busy financing a war, the rest of the world is busy creating new alliances. What is worse is the effect this time is going to have on our future standard of living but right now almost everyone seems blind. In some ways, maybe in many ways, what we have been trying to do to Russia has backfired on us.
It will be interesting noticing if people are able to give up bullying and act in a Diplomatic way with others - something we used to be quite good at.

 

[Litwin]

we are busy financing a war,

you ivans have no cash anymore , so stop lying Natsaha !
and by the way, MOSCOW SUCKS BIG TIME !

 

[Litwin]

happening

natasha how it feels ? still moscowbadisstrong11111 ?

 

[alexa]

Look it isn't just me who is noticing that all you do here is bully and remove part of a person's post to do whatever you want to do for your ego at that particular time - frequently some sexual perversion. I notice you have spent your day dissing my posts so I know for sure I have got something right but as you know most of the time I ignore you.

 

[georgephillip]

That does seem to be what is happening. While we are busy financing a war, the rest of the world is busy creating new alliances. What is worse is the effect this time is going to have on our future standard of living but right now almost everyone seems blind. In some ways, maybe in many ways, what we have been trying to do to Russia has backfired on us.
It will be interesting noticing if people are able to give up bullying and act in a Diplomatic way with others - something we used to be quite good at.

Our future standard of living is likely to decline dramatically when the US dollar stops functioning as the principal global reserve currency.
Will Trump Destroy the Dollar?

"The end of America’s unchallenged global economic dominance has arrived sooner than expected, thanks to the very same Neocons who gave the world the Iraq, Syria and the dirty wars in Latin America.

"Just as the Vietnam War drove the United States off gold by 1971, its sponsorship and funding of violent regime change wars against Venezuela and Syria – and threatening other countries with sanctions if they do not join this crusade – is now driving European and other nations to create their alternative financial institutions.

"This break has been building for quite some time, and was bound to occur.

"But who would have thought that Donald Trump would become the catalytic agent?

Trump’s Brilliant Strategy to Dismember U.S. Dollar Hegemony | Michael Hudson

"No left-wing party, no socialist, anarchist or foreign nationalist leader anywhere in the world could have achieved what he is doing to break up the American Empire.

"The Deep State is reacting with shock at how this right-wing real estate grifter has been able to drive other countries to defend themselves by dismantling the U.S.-centered world order."

Michael Hudson posted the above in February 2019, and it seems the latest sanctions boomerang in Ukraine has only accelerated the process?

 

[Baron]

Here you are giddy with happiness that Russia is trying to commit a second genocide against the Ukrainian people.

Sorry, but I believe you shall look for a good psychiatrist
Obviously you're schizophrenic

 

[AlexanderPK]

3. More than 70% Ukrainians die

FIFY too. Why do you keep making the same mistake over and over again?

 

[alexa]

Our future standard of living is likely to decline dramatically when the US dollar stops functioning as the principal global reserve currency.
Will Trump Destroy the Dollar?

"The end of America’s unchallenged global economic dominance has arrived sooner than expected, thanks to the very same Neocons who gave the world the Iraq, Syria and the dirty wars in Latin America.

"Just as the Vietnam War drove the United States off gold by 1971, its sponsorship and funding of violent regime change wars against Venezuela and Syria – and threatening other countries with sanctions if they do not join this crusade – is now driving European and other nations to create their alternative financial institutions.

"This break has been building for quite some time, and was bound to occur.

"But who would have thought that Donald Trump would become the catalytic agent?

Trump’s Brilliant Strategy to Dismember U.S. Dollar Hegemony | Michael Hudson

"No left-wing party, no socialist, anarchist or foreign nationalist leader anywhere in the world could have achieved what he is doing to break up the American Empire.

"The Deep State is reacting with shock at how this right-wing real estate grifter has been able to drive other countries to defend themselves by dismantling the U.S.-centered world order."

Excellent article forecasting now.

China and Trump are now aligned with each other as predicted and with Bricks are intent on ending having the dollar as reserve currency.

Noting that the US is the greatest threat to world peace.

Oh wow this is interesting. I know we have spoken about how both the US and Uk 'left' parties moved to also adopt neo liberalism and with that ended genuine democracy but I did not know this

For the past half-century, U.S. strategists, the State Department and National Endowment for Democracy (NED) worried that opposition to U.S. financial imperialism would come from left-wing parties. It therefore spent enormous resources manipulating parties that called themselves socialist (Tony Blair’s British Labour Party, France’s Socialist Party, Germany’s Social Democrats, etc.) to adopt neoliberal policies that were the diametric opposite to what social democracy meant a century ago. But U.S. political planners and Great Wurlitzer organists neglected the right wing, imagining that it would instinctively support U.S. thuggishness.
The reality is that right-wing parties want to get elected, and populist nationalism is today’s road to election victory in Europe and other countries just as it was for Donald Trump in 2016.

Calling the U.S. coup being sponsored in Venezuela a defense of democracy reveals the Doublethink underlying U.S. foreign policy. It defines “democracy” to mean supporting U.S. foreign policy, pursuing neoliberal privatization of public infrastructure, dismantling government regulation and following the direction of U.S.-dominated global institutions, from the IMF and World Bank to NATO. For decades, the resulting foreign wars, domestic austerity programs and military interventions have brought more violence, not democracy.

In the Devil’s Dictionary that U.S. diplomats are taught to use as their “Elements of Style” guidelines for Doublethink, a “democratic” country is one that follows U.S. leadership and opens its economy to U.S. investment, and IMF- and World Bank-sponsored privatization. The Ukraine is deemed democratic, along with Saudi Arabia, Israel and other countries that act as U.S. financial and military protectorates and are willing to treat America’s enemies as theirs too.
For the past half-century, U.S. strategists, the State Department and National Endowment for Democracy (NED) worried that opposition to U.S. financial imperialism would come from left-wing parties. It therefore spent enormous resources manipulating parties that called themselves socialist (Tony Blair’s British Labour Party, France’s Socialist Party, Germany’s Social Democrats, etc.) to adopt neoliberal policies that were the diametric opposite to what social democracy meant a century ago. But U.S. political planners and Great Wurlitzer organists neglected the right wing, imagining that it would instinctively support U.S. thuggishness.

The reality is that right-wing parties want to get elected, and populist nationalism is today’s road to election victory in Europe and other countries just as it was for Donald Trump in 2016.

very true. They learned after the second world war that Fascism and Corporate Power went very well together.

in Venezuela it was against genuine democracy but Ukraine was told some years ago that it would need to accept neo liberalism to get support from the US. This they have done. Already they have sold half of their productive farmland to an outside source and I wonder how that goes with what your article says about the IMF getting countries to sell their produce to outside sources rather than use it for themselves.

Neo Liberalism and democracy.

Neo Liberalism is what destroys Democracy, apart from a vote every few years and that now for only some.

True enough I had read something about some pressure within the Labour Party and if I think of it again it was a lot. Indeed they got rid of about half of the Party calling them 'militant' in the same way as they did again after Corbyn.

People should be aware that the Hague discovered the US had committed war crimes in Afghanistan. Nothing can be done about it, I get that but people should acknowledge it. The US even threatened to sanction the International Criminal Court for daring to report its war crimes.

I never realised just how much the US used the freezing of other countries money to get its own way. It is beyond belief though I know the UK had refused to give Venezuela back its gold and even worse was offering to give it to Juan Guido. These things are really criminal.

Europe has obviously changed due to the war in Ukraine. Apparently, France and Germany's power and influence is waning, they are moving away from the US, I think that goes for what they call Old Europe basically Western Europe. However the East European countries are apparently growing in power and Influence and they very much like strong links with the US. Not sure how that will end.

The UK is looking finished right now. As with everywhere else any money found goes to the richest.

But back to the rest. All the corruption. It is beyond belief and there is no wonder that because of that other countries have been working on securing their assets safely away from US tampering something which is going to bit by bit see the destruction of the dollar as reserve currency and probably quite a big bit and soon from BRICKS and its growing friends.

 

[Litwin]

Excellent article forecasting

Fun fact: the horde has a SMALLER economy than South Korea!

…and with a population smaller than Bangladesh (despite being 100 x times bigger) & a war being fought, I can’t help but think the horde ’s economy getting even worse.

TLDR : putin's Economy is F***ed: Here's 3 Reasons Why

No economy can survive such a connected world with being closed to basicly most foreign markets TLDR : putin's Economy is F***ed: Here's 3 Reasons Why "We lost nothing." "Also, I declare mobilisation." —Vladolf Pootler

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[georgephillip]

n Venezuela it was against genuine democracy but Ukraine was told some years ago that it would need to accept neo liberalism to get support from the US. This they have done. Already they have sold half of their productive farmland to an outside source and I wonder how that goes with what your article says about the IMF getting countries to sell their produce to outside sources rather than use it for themselves.

Michael Hudson offers this explanation of how the IMF supports oligarchs who serve US interests in countries like Ukraine:

"The IMF’s job is to make sure that the economy is impoverished and that all the money that it gives is to support the currency – to enable the kleptocrats, Kolomoyskyi and others, to take the Ukrainian currency they have and transfer it into dollars and pound sterling at a high exchange rate.

"So they will lend Ukraine the dollars – essentially to support the hryvnia, however you pronounce its currency – and enable the kleptocrats to make money and then pull the rug out from under them if any alternatives to the Nazis take power.

"They want.to make sure that once the kleptocrats have emptied out the economy, they can let the economy collapse.

The Rentier Economy is a Free Lunch | Michael Hudson

"They’re of course backing the new labor law president Zelensky has pushed, abolishing labor unions, abolishing the rights of labor to negotiate, and making basically the most fascist labor law in any country’s history.

"So the role of the IMF is to support client oligarchy, to get their money out of a country before there is a possibility of a leftwing government coming in, and then to deny all credit and organize a currency raid on the leftwing government, to say, 'You see, socialism doesn’t work'"

 

[georgephillip]

Here you are giddy with happiness that Russia is trying to commit a second genocide against the Ukrainian people. Proof positive the Russians are in no way morally superior to the Nazis.

Why do you constantly pretend the US hasn't been working with Nazis to destabilize Russia since 1945?

The CIA and Nazi War Criminals

"Washington D.C., February 4, 2005 - Today the National Security Archive posted the CIA's secret documentary history of the U.S government's relationship with General Reinhard Gehlen, the German army's intelligence chief for the Eastern Front during World War II.

"At the end of the war, Gehlen established a close relationship with the U.S. and successfully maintained his intelligence network (it ultimately became the West German BND) even though he employed numerous former Nazis and known war criminals."