Ukraine: What's the big deal?

[JoeB131]

I had high hopes Trump was going to bring a change, but like Putin said, they never change, it's all the same controlled US politicians put in place by the globalists. Sad.

The only guy who can bring a change is Pooty-Poot.

Trump gave him an exit ramp. He gets to keep some territory in exchange for peace

 

[BothWings]

The "ukrainian fascists" did not invade Russia. No matter what you say about Ukraine's internal politics or corruption, they were well within their sovereign rights to do whatever they wanted within their own borders. In fact, they were considered the world's breadbasket, supplying basic food staples to some of the most impoverished regions of the world.

On the other hand, Putin's Russia has demonstrated over and over and over during the past 30 years that it has no moral constraint about using death and destruction against its neighbors.

Western imperial corporatists and Obama tweaked Ukraine to start arming and intimidating Russia with the goal of pushing Russia off the world stage and eventually controlling The Ukraine's resources for Western gain. Naturally Russia didn't like that idea much and invaded to stave off the inevitable. Since then it has been a massive media war to prove who is really the aggressor. If Western corporatists didn't think they had the right to exploit resources in every corner of the world then most likely this wouldn't be happening, at least not the way that it has.

 

[Ringo]

“We have already lost Georgia in Europe” - ukrainian narcofuhrer.

He spoke at the UN General Assembly, where he expressed his dissatisfaction with the fact that georgians turned out to be three times smarter than ukrainians.
“Russia is trying to do to Moldova what Iran once did to Lebanon. The global response is insufficient. We have already lost Georgia in Europe.”
Incidentally, the latter are, apparently, the last in human history to have staked everything they had, including their own asses, on the “civilized world.”

BTW, comparison of pro-European Moldova and pro-Georgian Georgia.
Georgia on the left, Moldova on the right

GDP - $33.8 billion // $18 billion
WTO - $24 billion // $12 billion
Exports - $6.5 billion // $3.5 billion
Tourism - $4.4 billion // $0.2 billion
GDP growth - 9.4% // 0.1%
Inflation - 1.9% // 7%

Population of Moldova - 4 million
Population of Georgia - 3.7 million

 

[Ringo]

 

[Deadstick]

Insane McCain was in Kiev every week instigating the violent rabble.

 

[Samofvt]

Insane McCain was in Kiev every week instigating the violent rabble.

There was no violence in Ukraine until Russia invaded.

I'm sorry, but you have been brainwashed by Russian propaganda.

 

[Robert W]

The only guy who can bring a change is Pooty-Poot.

Trump gave him an exit ramp. He gets to keep some territory in exchange for peace

That is just the same way it worked for Adolph Hitler, and it led to ww 2.

 

[JoeB131]

That is just the same way it worked for Adolph Hitler, and it led to ww 2.

Um, no, not even close.

For one thing, no one offered Hitler an off-ramp after the fighting had been raging for three years.

 

[Ringo]

 

[Ringo]

 

[JWBooth]

There was no violence in Ukraine until Russia invaded.

I'm sorry, but you have been brainwashed by Russian propaganda.

 

[Ringo]

 

[Zavulon]

The only guy who can bring a change is Pooty-Poot.

Trump gave him an exit ramp. He gets to keep some territory in exchange for peace

It is not about territory and never have been. And Russians are not a horde of bloodthristy goons lead by an irrational dictator. They do what they do because they have pretty good reasons to do so, and their most important motivation is self-preservation. There is one way to achieve peace in Ukraine - it's denazification, demilitarisation and neutral status.

 

[Zavulon]

There was no violence in Ukraine until Russia invaded.

I'm sorry, but you have been brainwashed by Russian propaganda.

Actually, Russia "invaded" on the territory of the modern Ukraine more than one thousand year ago, and then there were a lot of violence there.

 

[Zavulon]

That is just the same way it worked for Adolph Hitler, and it led to ww 2.

And lack of "appeasement" led directly to ww1.

 

[Robert W]

And lack of "appeasement" led directly to ww1.

The same people who approve the invasion by Putin probably also admire how Hitler invaded countries.

 

[Zavulon]

The same people who approve the invasion by Putin probably also admire how Hitler invaded countries.

As if other guys, including Clinton and Obama invaded countries somehow differently.

 

[Robert W]

As if other guys, including Clinton and Obama invaded countries somehow differently.

May as well include Stalin.

 

[eagle1462010]

It is not about territory and never have been. And Russians are not a horde of bloodthristy goons lead by an irrational dictator. They do what they do because they have pretty good reasons to do so, and their most important motivation is self-preservation. There is one way to achieve peace in Ukraine - it's denazification, demilitarisation and neutral status.

BS Ivan. Its been about ocean front property since day 1

 

[Zavulon]

May as well include Stalin.

Russia never fought aggressive wars. Only self-defense. But yes, technically, and oversimplificating, all invasions looks like more or less similar - big groups of armed men are moving and killing other groups of armed men and force unarmed men do what is necessary for them.