Ukraine Is Not Fighting Russia, America Is With A Mercenary Army

Ukraine Is Not Fighting Russia, America Is With A Mercenary Army​


The Ukraine war is now essentially a stalemate. Yes, Ukrainian forces have had some recent success near Kharkiv, but at a high price. The brutal reality is that Russia has approximately 150M people, Ukraine has 40M. Ukraine is a border region of the Russian Federation, and very important to the Kremlin. Now that he has committed forces, Putin cannot let control of the Donbass region go, no matter the casualties. If he allowed that to happen, he would lose power. So, he will follow the old Russian tactic of throwing bodies at the conflict in a long war of attrition. After all, worked well against Napoleon, Hitler, etc.

Ukraine is not fighting this war against Russia. In reality, it is the United States with a mercenary army. America is supplying the weapons, the logistics, the tactics.

I have personally spoken to dozens of former U.S. special operators who have been involved in recent months in Ukraine. America is fighting this war alright, just not with uniformed troops.

The globalists in control of The White House want nothing less than a continuation of the conflict, so they can sell lots of weapons. The globalists desperately do not want to lose control of the Ukrainian playground, where they can launder money and run ‘bio research facilities’.

So, they are throwing the kitchen sink against Russia, and having some recent success.

However, this strategy will lead to continued escalation. The Ukrainian military leadership recently said the quiet part out loud – this could lead to the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons by Russian forces. Putin will have nothing to lose. Perhaps this is what the globalists want.

TheReaper says: We should have never gone there and it was none off out business. We are only there because of the Corrupt Biden Crime family dealings with corrupt Ukraine, and so that Senile Biden can try and make himself look like an actual man.
So you are saying Biden dragged America into another war, a potential nuclear war...after his disastrous Afghanistan retreat...

And let's not forget how he reversed Trump's pulling American troops out of Somalia by sending troops back in...


Asshole politicians who start wars / send their nation's citizens off to war should have to be the 1st ones in harm's way. If so, we would not have any anymore.
 
It's not Moscow's decision whether the Ukraine joins NATO or not.

Russia is in no position to issue ultimatums to the Ukraine or any other nation.

Russia is in no position to dictate to another nation what it can and cannot do.

Why are you defending Russia? What they did was unconscionable.
OK, who are you, and what have you done with that moron Dragonlady?
 
Damn it. This is such crap. Very mildly annoying. Akin to a gnat.

But just to correct some misconceptions. I am a conservative. I am generally speaking pro MAGA. I absolutely and without qualification detest Putin.

Is Ukraine entirely blameless? Probably not. But then again, Ukraine didn’t invade Russia. Putin had the Russian military invade Ukraine, a neighboring sovereign nation. And Putin had his military wage war against Ukraine in a savage manner.

I have literally prayed for the quick death (assassination is fine by me) of Putin.

There are many astute individuals in this USMB bastion of fairly free speech. Many of my fellow conservatives disagree with my views. I understand their concerns. We don’t need our brain scrambled old hair sniffing racist scumbag to get us into war. And yet….

I still end up thinking that we shouldn’t stand by while mad men invade other nations. I believe it would have been easier to snuff out Nazi Germany if we hadn’t taken so long to fight back against what that monster was up to. And now? Maybe it’s the same principle.
 
Again, Russia has never been the enemy, the colonial imperialist, the one invading other countries, etc.
With China, Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Nicaragua, etc., the US has been the bad guy trying to install dictators.
Russia gained nothing by defending these countries, but did it anyway.
Russia is an imperial state. Do you think everyone living there is Russian? Whole nations were subjugated by the Russian Empire and they haven’t been set free. Putin is as much a dictator as the czars and the soviets.
 
Wrong.
Moscow negotiated that the Ukraine would never try to join NATO in the 1992 treaties.
Moscow against warned the Ukraine in 2006 that trying to join NATO would require an invasion.
Moscow warned the Ukraine just months before the 2022 invasion that trying to join NATO would mean an invasion.
It was the Ukraine that cut off negotiations and deliberately caused the invasion.
It was a way for the US to test weapons on Russian forces.
It was illegal for Biden to give all those missile to Zelenski.
Moscow has no status to tell another country what to do, making their invasion illegal.
NATO giving Ukraine weapons is fantastic, and shows how shit the Russian army is. Russia's borders are being overwhelmed by people trying to get out. Wait until those conscripts start dying in huge numbers... Putin's finished.
 
Again, Russia has never been the enemy, the colonial imperialist, the one invading other countries, etc.
With China, Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Nicaragua, etc., the US has been the bad guy trying to install dictators.
Russia gained nothing by defending these countries, but did it anyway.
It was the Communist government of the USSR which installed the dictators the US was the good guy defending those nations'
 
Real liberals support Russia as not being a colonial imperialist like the US obviously is.
The Ukraine obviously is the bad guy, the remaining Polish aristocracy, selling out to the US, who wants to put NATO nukes on Russia's border, so we can launch a successful first strike attack on Russia.
You are a lair we do not want to put nukes there. We have not wanted or tried to put nukes anywhere in eastern europe since the sixties, We have not wanted or tried to put any nukes in europe at all since the eighties.
 
Wrong.
Moscow negotiated that the Ukraine would never try to join NATO in the 1992 treaties.
Moscow against warned the Ukraine in 2006 that trying to join NATO would require an invasion.
Moscow warned the Ukraine just months before the 2022 invasion that trying to join NATO would mean an invasion.
It was the Ukraine that cut off negotiations and deliberately caused the invasion.
It was a way for the US to test weapons on Russian forces.
It was illegal for Biden to give all those missile to Zelenski.
Wrong liar.

There was no such agreement for Ukraine not to join NATO.

There was nothing at all illegal about giving Ukraine weapons to defend themselves with
 
Again, Russia has never been the enemy, the colonial imperialist, the one invading other countries, etc.
With China, Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Nicaragua, etc., the US has been the bad guy trying to install dictators.
Russia gained nothing by defending these countries, but did it anyway.
Tell that to Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Poland, Hungary, Germany, Yugoslavia, Armenia, Croatia and Czechoslovakia. All were invaded and conquered by the USSR.
 
Tell that to Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Poland, Hungary, Germany, Yugoslavia, Armenia, Croatia and Czechoslovakia. All were invaded and conquered by the USSR.
It’s time to put a stop to this stupid war and round up all those responsible for instigating it in the West.


Washington’s Pointless War on Behalf of a Fake Nation

By David Stockman
David Stockman's Contra Corner
September 28,
The messages are coming in loud and clear today—from the crashing pound, to repudiation of establishment governments in Italy, Sweden and more to come, to Hungarian Prime Minister Orban’s call to end the Sanctions War and do so pronto.

So let’s be clear: Washington’s dunderheaded intervention in the intramural spat between Russia and Ukraine and the accompanying global Sanctions War is the surely the stupidest, most destructive project to arise from the banks of the Potomac in modern times. And the architects of this perfidious folly—Biden, Blinkin, Sullivan, Nuland et. al.—cannot be condemned harshly enough.


After all, this madness is being pursued in the name of abstract policy norms—the rule of law and sanctity of borders—that make Washington a laughing stock. More than any other nation on planet earth (and by a long-shot), it has serially and blatantly violated these standards scores of times in recent decades.

Among other actions, Washington’s interventions in Serbia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Syria, Somalia etc were not only pointless; they were also a self-evident violation of the very rule of law and sanctity of borders upon which Washington now beats its breasts ever more stridently.

Moreover, by wallowing in this unhinged hypocrisy Washington has abandoned every semblance of commonsense as to why this conflict happened in the first place and why it is wholly irrelevant to the national security of the American homeland, or, for that matter, Europe, as well.

The fundamental fact is, aside from the historically short interval of iron-fisted communist rule during the Soviet era, Ukraine had never been a nation-state within its post-1991 happenstance borders. In fact, for upwards of 275 years before 1918 much of its territories were borderlands, vassals and outright provinces of Czarist Russia; and before that constituents of the Polish-Lithuanian Empire and others.
 
Lol. Every damn time. Wrong 100% of time. How is that possible?
I was not wrong I am correct.

You cannot demonstrate otherwise with evidence.

every damn time you prove your self wrong and dishonest by spouting off without evidence.

Like rigby you just dream shit up as you go
 

Ukraine Is Not Fighting Russia, America Is With A Mercenary Army​


The Ukraine war is now essentially a stalemate. Yes, Ukrainian forces have had some recent success near Kharkiv, but at a high price. The brutal reality is that Russia has approximately 150M people, Ukraine has 40M. Ukraine is a border region of the Russian Federation, and very important to the Kremlin. Now that he has committed forces, Putin cannot let control of the Donbass region go, no matter the casualties. If he allowed that to happen, he would lose power. So, he will follow the old Russian tactic of throwing bodies at the conflict in a long war of attrition. After all, worked well against Napoleon, Hitler, etc.

Ukraine is not fighting this war against Russia. In reality, it is the United States with a mercenary army. America is supplying the weapons, the logistics, the tactics.

I have personally spoken to dozens of former U.S. special operators who have been involved in recent months in Ukraine. America is fighting this war alright, just not with uniformed troops.

The globalists in control of The White House want nothing less than a continuation of the conflict, so they can sell lots of weapons. The globalists desperately do not want to lose control of the Ukrainian playground, where they can launder money and run ‘bio research facilities’.

So, they are throwing the kitchen sink against Russia, and having some recent success.

However, this strategy will lead to continued escalation. The Ukrainian military leadership recently said the quiet part out loud – this could lead to the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons by Russian forces. Putin will have nothing to lose. Perhaps this is what the globalists want.

TheReaper says: We should have never gone there and it was none off out business. We are only there because of the Corrupt Biden Crime family dealings with corrupt Ukraine, and so that Senile Biden can try and make himself look like an actual man.
And just like the US threw the kitchen sink at No Vietnam, we still lost the war and withdrew. This is Russia’s Vietnam.
 
this could lead to the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons by Russian forces. Putin will have nothing to lose.
Russian politicians have repeatedly said, including Putin, that the use of nuclear weapons by Russia could be a response to such use by the West. Everything else is the fabrications of western propagandists. Which, by the way, almost convinced the western lemmings of the need for this step... The population of the West has become very stupid.
 

Ukraine Is Not Fighting Russia, America Is With A Mercenary Army​


The Ukraine war is now essentially a stalemate. Yes, Ukrainian forces have had some recent success near Kharkiv, but at a high price. The brutal reality is that Russia has approximately 150M people, Ukraine has 40M. Ukraine is a border region of the Russian Federation, and very important to the Kremlin. Now that he has committed forces, Putin cannot let control of the Donbass region go, no matter the casualties. If he allowed that to happen, he would lose power. So, he will follow the old Russian tactic of throwing bodies at the conflict in a long war of attrition. After all, worked well against Napoleon, Hitler, etc.

Ukraine is not fighting this war against Russia. In reality, it is the United States with a mercenary army. America is supplying the weapons, the logistics, the tactics.

I have personally spoken to dozens of former U.S. special operators who have been involved in recent months in Ukraine. America is fighting this war alright, just not with uniformed troops.

The globalists in control of The White House want nothing less than a continuation of the conflict, so they can sell lots of weapons. The globalists desperately do not want to lose control of the Ukrainian playground, where they can launder money and run ‘bio research facilities’.

So, they are throwing the kitchen sink against Russia, and having some recent success.

However, this strategy will lead to continued escalation. The Ukrainian military leadership recently said the quiet part out loud – this could lead to the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons by Russian forces. Putin will have nothing to lose. Perhaps this is what the globalists want.

TheReaper says: We should have never gone there and it was none off out business. We are only there because of the Corrupt Biden Crime family dealings with corrupt Ukraine, and so that Senile Biden can try and make himself look like an actual man.
Of course there is still that little detail of putin invading a foreign country
 
The Ukraine war is now essentially a stalemate.
LOL, really ?



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Black Sea to the south which is not our playground
you are wrong, its our playground
 
you are wrong, its our playground
This must make you so happy Adolf.
 

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