U.S getting spyed on by ally AGAIN?!!!

[Beelzebub]

You know, I hear a lot of calls for mourning, sympathy and solidarity with Jewish dead.
That seems very strange to me.

The Holocaust for instance. We are constantly reminded that 6 million or so Jews died at the hands of organised murderers of Nazi Germany. Well, I can see that is a blow to the tradition, diversity and continuity of Judaism, but so what? It is just another slightly unhinged sky-pixie worshipping cult, like Christianity and Islam. Well, ok, I happen to think there is a deal of wisdom in such spiritual traditions too, but the point is its an institution, with good and bad, but is and institution.

The thing to mourn, to show solidarity with are 6 million human beings who were murdered. Not 6 million Jews. It would be like mourning 3 million females, and rarely mentioning the males. Or vice versa. Or counting how many plumbers there were, and just mourning them.

Its an odd custom we have here.

 

[marsnow]

Trying to remember when it was that all those damn Dirty Jews in Israel cowardly attacked us and killed thousands??????

Your point is valid. They have not done that. This is a completely different argument.

 

[Lipush]

You know, I hear a lot of calls for mourning, sympathy and solidarity with Jewish dead.
That seems very strange to me.

The Holocaust for instance. We are constantly reminded that 6 million or so Jews died at the hands of organised murderers of Nazi Germany. Well, I can see that is a blow to the tradition, diversity and continuity of Judaism, but so what? It is just another slightly unhinged sky-pixie worshipping cult, like Christianity and Islam. Well, ok, I happen to think there is a deal of wisdom in such spiritual traditions too, but the point is its an institution, with good and bad, but is and institution.

The thing to mourn, to show solidarity with are 6 million human beings who were murdered. Not 6 million Jews. It would be like mourning 3 million females, and rarely mentioning the males. Or vice versa. Or counting how many plumbers there were, and just mourning them.

Its an odd custom we have here.

Hitler wanted the Jews dead, very specifically, more than any other ethnic group, so that may be the reason.

But you're correct. Them being Jews sholdn't matter to the world. It matters to us, though.

 

[Beelzebub]

...
He refused to be released because it meant terrorists being released and risking Israelis. The people here applauded his courage. ...

I think there was less to it than that. Kerry was beaten badly for putting Pollard on the table, as the US was supposed to be an "honest broker" not a third negotiating party.

In any case the talks were done. Over by that point. Pollard never had the chance to turn down release, other than in a hypothetical manner.

 

[Dot Com]

You know, I hear a lot of calls for mourning, sympathy and solidarity with Jewish dead.
That seems very strange to me.

The Holocaust for instance. We are constantly reminded that 6 million or so Jews died at the hands of organised murderers of Nazi Germany. Well, I can see that is a blow to the tradition, diversity and continuity of Judaism, but so what? It is just another slightly unhinged sky-pixie worshipping cult, like Christianity and Islam. Well, ok, I happen to think there is a deal of wisdom in such spiritual traditions too, but the point is its an institution, with good and bad, but is and institution.

The thing to mourn, to show solidarity with are 6 million human beings who were murdered. Not 6 million Jews. It would be like mourning 3 million females, and rarely mentioning the males. Or vice versa. Or counting how many plumbers there were, and just mourning them.

Its an odd custom we have here.

^ that.

Monotheism is a racket. All three religions in it are quite barbaric and narcissistic.

 

[Beelzebub]

Many in USA saw Va'anunu as a hero, while we hated him...

I really really don't get Israel on this one.

A nuclear weapon can be two things. A highly effective deterrent, or a method to destroy very many people and a significant amount of land, with non-combatants impacted for decades.

To have the nukes and keep them secret meant their only used could be for a surprise attack.

Wow! Is it really the case that Israel wanted to engineer a situation where it could carry out a nuclear surprise attack on its enemies? Talk about an immoral nation!

 

[thanatos144]

Really, on my side, I just want my jewish human brothers and sisters to be able to live a normal life. Am proud of their contribution to American society. Their role in European society is no longer required, they can be whoever they want to be.


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It is kind of hard to live a normal life when they are surrounded by people who want to kill ever man woman and child Jew on the planet.....i am sure you wouldn't shed a tear.

Buddy, I shed a tear for all humans everywhere on this miserable planet who undergo hardship. We have all suffered, and maybe they suffered uniquely. I want Jewish humans to be able to be the human beings that they are, not trapped in the horror show you just outlined.

Yet your posts say otherwise.... You can try to hide your hate but it is easily seen through.

 

[thanatos144]

Trying to remember when it was that all those damn Dirty Jews in Israel cowardly attacked us and killed thousands??????

Your point is valid. They have not done that. This is a completely different argument.

No it isnt. They have been a true ally ....We have not. And it is because of hateful people like you.

 

[Lipush]

Many in USA saw Va'anunu as a hero, while we hated him...

I really really don't get Israel on this one.

A nuclear weapon can be two things. A highly effective deterrent, or a method to destroy very many people and a significant amount of land, with non-combatants impacted for decades.

To have the nukes and keep them secret meant their only used could be for a surprise attack.

Wow! Is it really the case that Israel wanted to engineer a situation where it could carry out a nuclear surprise attack on its enemies? Talk about an immoral nation!

When you want to change things you do them from the inside.

Just like you don't appreciate people telling your secrets from inside in America, we don't appreciate them telling things which are not always based on truths, from Israel

Israel if wished could launch whatever, it could by now, it didn't because it knows things don't work this way. Trying to pain it like we're to launch a bomb on countries of populations is stupid and not true.

 

[Lipush]

...
He refused to be released because it meant terrorists being released and risking Israelis. The people here applauded his courage. ...

I think there was less to it than that. Kerry was beaten badly for putting Pollard on the table, as the US was supposed to be an "honest broker" not a third negotiating party.

In any case the talks were done. Over by that point. Pollard never had the chance to turn down release, other than in a hypothetical manner.

He refuded to stand to the release committee, which is by itself, brave.

Anyway, it doesn't matter now, anyway.

Thankfully, this freak-show of talks is a thing of yesterday.

 

[Dot Com]

Trying to remember when it was that all those damn Dirty Jews in Israel cowardly attacked us and killed thousands??????

Your point is valid. They have not done that. This is a completely different argument.

No it isnt. They have been a true ally ....We have not. And it is because of hateful people like you.

Take a look at my spying thread from the other day. OH WAIT!!! We're on it right now They were also caught selling U.S. military weaponry secrets to China, if I'm not mistaken YET they still get the kid glove treatment.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Many in USA saw Va'anunu as a hero, while we hated him...

I really really don't get Israel on this one.

A nuclear weapon can be two things. A highly effective deterrent, or a method to destroy very many people and a significant amount of land, with non-combatants impacted for decades.

To have the nukes and keep them secret meant their only used could be for a surprise attack.

Wow! Is it really the case that Israel wanted to engineer a situation where it could carry out a nuclear surprise attack on its enemies? Talk about an immoral nation!

Does Israel have nuclear weapons? If she does she is only going to use them if someone tries to over run her borders in order to decimate the population and take Israel. What is the problem? Leave Israel alone and no one gets hurt.

It's like a big bully complaining his victim has a gun to protect himself with and it just isn't fair!!

 

[thanatos144]

Your point is valid. They have not done that. This is a completely different argument.

No it isnt. They have been a true ally ....We have not. And it is because of hateful people like you.

Take a look at my spying thread from the other day. they were also caught selling U.S. military weaponry secrets to China, if I'm not mistaken YET they still get the kid glove treatment.

Are you upset that this might have happened or that it wasn't your Messiah Obama doing it? You and him both just hate them Dirty Jews.

 

[Dot Com]

Many in USA saw Va'anunu as a hero, while we hated him...

I really really don't get Israel on this one.

A nuclear weapon can be two things. A highly effective deterrent, or a method to destroy very many people and a significant amount of land, with non-combatants impacted for decades.

To have the nukes and keep them secret meant their only used could be for a surprise attack.

Wow! Is it really the case that Israel wanted to engineer a situation where it could carry out a nuclear surprise attack on its enemies? Talk about an immoral nation!

Does Israel have nuclear weapons? If she does she is only going to use them if someone tries to over run her borders in order to decimate the population and take Israel. What is the problem? Leave Israel alone and no one gets hurt.

It's like a big bully complaining his victim has a gun to protect himself with and it just isn't fair!!

link?

You're a christian thumper anyway so EVERYONE knows why people like you & Reagan supported Israel to hasten their destruction to bring about the rapture. You people & your sky pixies

 

[marsnow]

Trying to remember when it was that all those damn Dirty Jews in Israel cowardly attacked us and killed thousands??????

Your point is valid. They have not done that. This is a completely different argument.

No it isnt. They have been a true ally ....We have not. And it is because of hateful people like you.

Can I compliment you into submission? Ascribe qualities to me as you like.

Maybe its in our nature as a country.

"It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliance with any portion of the foreign world": it was George Washington's Farewell Address to us. The inaugural pledge of Thomas Jefferson was no less clear: "Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations-entangling alliances with none."

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Many in USA saw Va'anunu as a hero, while we hated him...

I really really don't get Israel on this one.

A nuclear weapon can be two things. A highly effective deterrent, or a method to destroy very many people and a significant amount of land, with non-combatants impacted for decades.

To have the nukes and keep them secret meant their only used could be for a surprise attack.

Wow! Is it really the case that Israel wanted to engineer a situation where it could carry out a nuclear surprise attack on its enemies? Talk about an immoral nation!

When you want to change things you do them from the inside.

Just like you don't appreciate people telling your secrets from inside in America, we don't appreciate them telling things which are not always based on truths, from Israel

Israel if wished could launch whatever, it could by now, it didn't because it knows things don't work this way. Trying to pain it like we're to launch a bomb on countries of populations is stupid and not true.

That's precisely how it gets done. What a bright young lady you are! As for Israeli spies. G-d bless them, keep them and make them prosper in everything they put their hand to. I do mean EVERYTHING.

 

[Dot Com]

No it isnt. They have been a true ally ....We have not. And it is because of hateful people like you.

Take a look at my spying thread from the other day. they were also caught selling U.S. military weaponry secrets to China, if I'm not mistaken YET they still get the kid glove treatment.

Are you upset that this might have happened or that it wasn't your Messiah Obama doing it? You and him both just hate them Dirty Jews.

good non-response. Thjey were caught spying on this great nation AFTER they said they would stop after 9-11. They were also caught selling U.S. military hardware secrets to China. Care to address those two issues? If not, GTFO of the thread & stop wasting my time w/ your weak deflections son

 

[Dot Com]

No it isnt. They have been a true ally ....We have not. And it is because of hateful people like you.

Take a look at my spying thread from the other day. they were also caught selling U.S. military weaponry secrets to China, if I'm not mistaken YET they still get the kid glove treatment.

Are you upset that this might have happened or that it wasn't your Messiah Obama doing it? You and him both just hate them Dirty Jews.

good non-response. They were caught spying on this great nation AFTER they said they would stop after 9-11. They were also caught selling sensitive/classified U.S. military hardware secrets to China.

Care to address those two issues? If not, GTFO of the thread & stop wasting my time w/ your weak deflections son

 

[thanatos144]

Take a look at my spying thread from the other day. they were also caught selling U.S. military weaponry secrets to China, if I'm not mistaken YET they still get the kid glove treatment.

Are you upset that this might have happened or that it wasn't your Messiah Obama doing it? You and him both just hate them Dirty Jews.

good non-response. Thjey were caught spying on this great nation AFTER they said they would stop after 9-11. They were also caught selling U.S. military hardware secrets to China. Care to address those two issues? If not, GTFO of the thread & stop wasting my time w/ your weak deflections son

You will of course have to forgive me if I dont believe a source that hates Jews as valid.

 

[Dot Com]

facts are facts. Their spying record is well documented as well as the military tech transferrence to China but you knew that right

http://defensetech.org/2013/12/24/report-israel-passes-u-s-military-technology-to-china/

Go post your blatherings on someone else's thread who will buy it.