Tyre Nichols body cam footage

[Jarlaxle]

I've been arrested at least twenty times.

Never resisted.

No issues.

Ever.

Cops were respectful.

You are so full of shit your breath stinks.

True enough.

I don't really have a dog in this fight.

But I do believe if this man hadn't resisted, he'd be alive.

And I figure if my wife hadn't worn tights, she wouldn't have been raped, right?

 

[Lesh]

Then where is your posted criticism of Superbadbrutha ?

I don't critique every post nor do I take responsibility for them

Do you take responsibility for every fucked up right wing post?

 

[Missourian]

So, we both have a line we think the police should not cross, all we differ on is where that line is

My line is... the law.

Your line is...like a liberal... whatever you FEEL like the line should be.

Police can preemptively put you in cuffs under two well defined circumstances.

One is...they have a reasonable suspicion that you are a flight risk.

And two...they have a reasonable suspicion that there is a risk of violence.

These are Constitutionally affirmed, court defined rules for preemptive restrain.

In Mr. Nichols case...Mr. Nichols failed to pull over immediately. From the police point of view...this reasonable constituted a risk of flight based on this same tactic being used in their experience by those attempting to flee.

It was Mr Nichols actions, not those of the police that facilitated Mr Nichols being deemed a flight risk.

This is exactly what I mean when I extol to virtues of compliance.

If the end goal is to save lives...these precedents in law need to be understood. Actions have consequences.

I'm not saying police aren't corrupt.

I'm not saying that these officers or other officers aren't poorly trained, of unsuitable temperament, or are just downright assholes.

What I'm saying is, understanding what the police are legally empowered to do for their own safety in an extremely dangerous profession will save lives.

Do you agree?

 

[Jarlaxle]

we all have a dog in this fight,,
not sure how much you watched but the last thing the world needs is cops that abuse authority to the level these guys did,,

Missourian is a copsucker. There is NOTHING a cop can do that he will not excuse. A cop could grab a teenage girl, rape her on camera, shoot her in the back, drop a throwdown, claim it was justified...and he would excuse it. He will excuse literally ANY ACTION by a cop.

Knowing fuckface Leftists like you, that means ALL cops, asshole.

Not all cops. Only 98-99% are bad.

I don’t understand the wrath of the police

They pepper sprayed him in the eyes and then beat him for trying to use his hands to wipe his eyes

Give me your fucking hands!

It's the same reason that guards at Auschwitz would torture random prisoners for entertainment...they're just sick, twisted sadists.

 

[pknopp]

My line is... the law.

Your line is...like a liberal... whatever you FEEL like the line should be.

Police can preemptively put you in cuffs under two well defined circumstances.

One is...they have a reasonable suspicion that you are a flight risk.

And two...they have a reasonable suspicion that there is a risk of violence.

These are Constitutionally affirmed, court defined rules for preemptive restrain.

No they aren't. Are yo arguing the police can just go up to someone and put them in hand cuffs?

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Missourian is a copsucker. There is NOTHING a cop can do that he will not excuse. A cop could grab a teenage girl, rape her on camera, shoot her in the back, drop a throwdown, claim it was justified...and he would excuse it. He will excuse literally ANY ACTION by a cop.

Only if it is a black or brown person.

 

[Missourian]

You are so full of shit your breath stinks.

That I've been arrested twenty times or that I've had no issues.

Not that I'm going to be willing to proving either...just curious.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Here is a video that includes the traffic stop. A felony stop for whatever reason.

Memphis authorities release video of officers beating Tyre Nichols during arrest

Authorities in Memphis, Tennessee, released Friday the police bodycam footage of police officers’ confrontation with Tyre Nichols.

news.yahoo.com

it doesn't show anything more than the other videos. The officer was already trying to pull him out of the car when the cop with the body cam came up behind him. What we really need to see is what took place after the officer left his car to approach the vehicle.

 

[Missourian]

No they aren't. Are yo arguing the police can just go up to someone and put them in hand cuffs?

They can...if they can justify it under those two standards.

"The Sixth Circuit Appellate Court addressed these factors with negative language in 2015 “If there is no specific reason for the officers to believe that the detainee poses a risk of flight or violence, “a bare inference” or speculation that the detainee may somehow be violent is not sufficient to justify the use of handcuffs. Brown v. Lewis, 14 – 392 (6th Cir. February 26, 2015). Consequently, the two factors that WILL permit law enforcement to handcuff during an investigative detention is risk of flight or risk of violence."

Can a Law Enforcement Officer Handcuff a Suspect During Investigative Detention? - Objectively Reasonable #Law #Legal #Police #LawEnforcement #CaseLaw #HardestJobInAmerica #ObjectivelyReasonable

“[T]he use of handcuffs [does not] exceed the bounds of a Terry stop, so long as the circumstances warrant that precaution.

www.objectivelyreasonable.com

 

[Mac-7]

Memphis authorities release video of officers beating Tyre Nichols during arrest

Authorities in Memphis, Tennessee, released Friday the police bodycam footage of police officers’ confrontation with Tyre Nichols.

news.yahoo.com

I take back my thank you and give you a Nice Try instead

The headline does claim to be video of the entire incident but its highly edited and of no use to me

I want to know what was said at the beginning before nichols was pulled from his car

 

[Jarlaxle]

The officers who pulled him over deserve to be fired too

The entire department needs to be purged. Shit-can EVERYONE and start over.

These cops are done. That’s murder. No question about it.

Sadly, none of them will get what they deserve for it.

Hey arent you the guy that thinks police should kill people if they run from them? Yeah, you're intelligent lol.

Missourian is just a copsucker. He'd cheer the Gestapo herding Jews into boxcars.

Completely not the point. But no matter 5 cops are gonna be convicted of murder.

Maybe. Though I hope they will do the right thing and spare anyone the hassle of a trial. If they need help...I'm fine with that.

Not a DP case. Only charged with Murder 2.

Just give them each a year in general population.

 

[Mac-7]

it doesn't show anything more than the other videos. The officer was already trying to pull him out of the car when the cop with the body cam came up behind him. What we really need to see is what took place after the officer left his car to approach the vehicle.

I imagine the first officer to interact with nichols had s body cam also

 

[Missourian]

The entire department needs to be purged. Shit-can EVERYONE and start over.



Sadly, none of them will get what they deserve for it.



Missourian is just a copsucker. He'd cheer the Gestapo herding Jews into boxcars.



Maybe. Though I hope they will do the right thing and spare anyone the hassle of a trial. If they need help...I'm fine with that.



Just give them each a year in general population.

Not exactly what I would call reasoned or logical debate. Just you being you.

 

[pknopp]

They can...if they can justify it under those two standards.

"The Sixth Circuit Appellate Court addressed these factors with negative language in 2015 “If there is no specific reason for the officers to believe that the detainee poses a risk of flight or violence, “a bare inference” or speculation that the detainee may somehow be violent is not sufficient to justify the use of handcuffs. Brown v. Lewis, 14 – 392 (6th Cir. February 26, 2015). Consequently, the two factors that WILL permit law enforcement to handcuff during an investigative detention is risk of flight or risk of violence."

Can a Law Enforcement Officer Handcuff a Suspect During Investigative Detention? - Objectively Reasonable #Law #Legal #Police #LawEnforcement #CaseLaw #HardestJobInAmerica #ObjectivelyReasonable

“[T]he use of handcuffs [does not] exceed the bounds of a Terry stop, so long as the circumstances warrant that precaution.

www.objectivelyreasonable.com

Police officers have no expectation that I can not simply go home. They have to be able to state a real reason I must stay.

Officer: Come here.

Citizen: Why?

Officer: Because I said so.

Citizen: Bugger off.

You seem to be willing to miss the big picture here. Everyone can now be armed. If an officer comes up and grabs and detains you with no justification that is assault and you have a right to defend yourself.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Only if it is a black or brown person.

Naah, he'll excuse ANYTHING a cop does. I recall he excused the guy that murdered Daniel Shaver.

That I've been arrested twenty times or that I've had no issues.

Not that I'm going to be willing to proving either...just curious.

Yeah, SUUUUUUUUUUUUURE you were! And Joe Biden was a coal miner.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Why was Tyre Nichols arrested? Memphis police admit they have no evidence

Chief C.J. Davis said police have found no evidence backing up claims Nichols was involved in reckless driving at the time of his arrest.

www.newsweek.com

Memphis Police Department said there's no evidence to substantiate claims that Tyre Nichols—the 29-year-old Black man who died in hospital three days after he was allegedly beaten up by five police officers at a traffic stop—was actually involved in reckless driving.

Now where is your evidence that he was doing something wrong.

These are first reports long before a full investigation. Five cops don't normally perform a traffic stop. Something happened they're not yet telling us otherwise all the action would have taken place with one police officer. It's like the first reports of Trayvon Martin. The media reported he was shot by a white guy for going to the store for a bag of Skittles. We didn't learn (as Paul Harvey used to say) the rest of the story for at least a week.

The media knows how to play black people to get them to protest or riot. That means withholding information that would make more sense out of a situation.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Police officers have no expectation that I can not simply go home. They have to be able to state a real reason I must stay.

Officer: Come here.

Citizen: Why?

Officer: Because I said so.

Citizen: Bugger off.

You seem to be willing to miss the big picture here. Everyone can now be armed. If an officer comes up and grabs and detains you with no justification that is assault and you have a right to defend yourself.

Sadly...not enough bad cops end up too dead to be bad cops.

 

[pknopp]

These are first reports long before a full investigation. Five cops don't normally perform a traffic stop. Something happened they're not yet telling us otherwise all the action would have taken place with one police officer.

Oddly it seems the officers superiors don't even know what the reason was.

It's not the media not reporting it. It's the police themselves saying it.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I imagine the first officer to interact with nichols had s body cam also

Could be, but why can't we see that video if there is one?

 

[Mac-7]

I don't critique every post nor do I take responsibility for them

Do you take responsibility for every fucked up right wing post?

You found me

I think you just see what you want to see