Tyre Nichols body cam footage

[XponentialChaos]

Again, I've said repeatedly that kicking was out of the question and the officer that did it should be charged. Don't lie to try and make a point. These officers had no intention on killing anybody. That doesn't fly.

And the other officers did nothing to stop this beating as they killed him.

This will be ruled a murder.

 

[XponentialChaos]

It's not as easy as you would think.

Try it sometime.

So you don’t think it’s reasonable to expect five police officers to be able to handle a 145-pound guy without needing to resort to literally beating him to death?Is that what you’re saying?

This is good police work to you?

 

[Missourian]

So you don’t think it’s reasonable to expect five police officers to be able to handle a 145-pound guy without needing to resort to literally beating him to death?Is that what you’re saying?

This is good police work to you?

Already answered most recently in post 459.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Are you fucking crazy?
WTF is the matter with you?

They had control of the situation
Five 200 plus lb officers restraining a 140 lb suspect who was not fighting back

You think their next step should be kicking him in the head?

Sorry. There's a video. He was fighting back.

 

[Missourian]

So you don’t think it’s reasonable to expect five police officers to be able to handle a 145-pound guy without needing to resort to literally beating him to death?Is that what you’re saying?

This is good police work to you?

Now...do you think he'd still be alive if he had complied with the officers and allowed himself to be handcuffed?

 

[Issa]

The racism I am speaking of are the racist comments on this forum. These 5 black men forgot they were black and took on the persona of the oppressor.

The racist card is over played. Sorry!!!.
As someone who always defended african Americans and always blamed racism I am sick and tired of the racist card played by the African American community.

The AA community has a problem and for the 12% to commit most crimes, is a big problem. The 20 some years I've lived in the US I can safely say that the most disorderly conducts I've seen, bad behaviors...is mostly by members of the community.

Time to reflect and clean house...most of us immigrants come from humble beginnings and we thrive and mostly stay out of trouble...I never see a Persian been chased by police, smashing windows, or an Indian, chinese robbing and killing hard working people....enough we sympathized with them and they don't do the work to better themselves.

Watch now most of the looting will be done by african Americans, they wait for every chance to steal and commit more crimes and not support their cause.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Already answered most recently in post 459.

I didn’t see an answer. How about you just answer this time?

So you don’t think it’s reasonable to expect five police officers to be able to handle a 145-pound guy without needing to resort to literally beating him to death?Is that what you’re saying?

This is good police work to you?

 

[basquebromance]

 

[XponentialChaos]

Now...do you think he'd still be alive if he had complied with the officers and allowed himself to be handcuffed?

Oh I see. So you’re trying to blame the victim here. Here, I’ll play along. If he had fully complied, yes, I think he would be more likely to live.

Now, unfortunately, people are not always going to comply. People are going to break the law. Police are going to be faced with less than ideal situations. When a suspect does not comply, is it acceptable to you that police officers beat the suspect to death?

As another poster said: comply or die. Is this fine with you?

 

[Woodznutz]

The corrupt criminal justice system brutalizes everyone in it, so this event isn't surprising.

 

[Woodznutz]

Oh I see. So you’re trying to blame the victim here. Here, I’ll play along. If he had fully complied, yes, I think he would be more likely to live.

Now, unfortunately, people are not always going to comply. People are going to break the law. Police are going to be faced with less than ideal situations. When a suspect does not comply, is it acceptable to you that police officers beat the suspect to death?

As another poster said: comply or die. Is this fine with you?

"Comply or Die". I like it.

 

[Missourian]

I didn’t see an answer. How about you just answer this time?

So you don’t think it’s reasonable to expect five police officers to be able to handle a 145-pound guy without needing to resort to literally beating him to death?Is that what you’re saying?

This is good police work to you?

Absolutely not.

I believe Memphis is in a death spiral.

I don't believe they are or can attract the best or most professional or most well trained police officers ... because who would want to be a police officer in a community that a) doesn't want them b) has a crime rate at the top of worst in the nation and c) is going to put YOU in jail for attempting to do your job?

With high crime businesses move away.

Now you don't have the tax base to pay the amount that WILL attract the best.

I read a story today that more than once the Memphis Police academy had a graduation rate of less than 7% for new recruits.

 

[Missourian]

Oh I see. So you’re trying to blame the victim here. Here, I’ll play along. If he had fully complied, yes, I think he would be more likely to live.

Now, unfortunately, people are not always going to comply. People are going to break the law. Police are going to be faced with less than ideal situations. When a suspect does not comply, is it acceptable to you that police officers beat the suspect to death?

As another poster said: comply or die. Is this fine with you?

Are we trying to save lives or score points?

The absolutely best way to avoid a confrontation with police is to comply.

THAT SHOULD BE THE MESSAGE FROM ALL SIDES if the intent is to save lives.

If you could send a one word message back to Tyre Nichols on January 6th that would save his life...you tell me what it would be other than "comply".

 

[tahuyaman]

I see Nichols pulling away his right hand so he cannot be cuffed throughout the beginning of the video.

He has already not pulled over immediately.

Being a deputy sheriff in Snowdrift County North Dakota, while admirable, is not the same as being an officer in Memphis Tennessee.

I'm not saying these officer are not poorly trained and are not of the proper temperament to protect and serve...but whos fault is that if not their own leadership. I believe Memphis got down to like 1600 officer...now they are at 2300 all from within Shelby County Tennessee. You have to do what you can with what you have when you're the number one most dangerous city in 2020.

I was a deputy sheriff in a fairly high crime area with a significant amount of gang activity. An area with both rural and urban sections in Pierce county, Washington state. Not “snowdrift North Dakota.”


The conduct of these officers can not be justified in any way shape or form. Charging each of them with 2d degree murder is appropriate.

 

[Missourian]

I was a deputy sheriff in a fairly high crime area with a significant amount of gang activity. An area with both rural and urban sections in Pierce county, Washington state. Not “snowdrift North Dakota.”


The conduct of these officers can not be justified in any way shape or form. Charging each of them with 2d degree murder is appropriate.

Ok...then I'll ask you the same question no one else wants to answer.

You've used pepper spray, you've used your taser, you've tried wrestling the suspect into compliance.

You haven't searched him and he isn't cuffed... he's still resisting after all that and for all you know he is a felon in possession of a firearm on his third strike. How are you going to stop him?

Hell...you've even had a lot of time to think about it...police only have seconds.

 

[rightwinger]

Sorry. There's a video. He was fighting back.

Nowhere on that video does he fight back

 

[Woodznutz]

This ain’t the military and that militarization of police is the problem

The military "hurts people and breaks things". What's the difference?

 

[Missourian]

Nowhere on that video does he fight back

Resists, Mr Semantics. You know exactly what he meant.

 

[Woodznutz]

Are we trying to save lives or score points?

The absolutely best way to avoid a confrontation with police is to comply.

THAT SHOULD BE THE MESSAGE FROM ALL SIDES if the intent is to save lives.

If you could send a one word message back to Tyre Nichols on January 6th that would save his life...you tell me what it would be other than "comply".

The cruel irony is that he probably thought that if he lay face down he would die like George Floyd did.

 

[tahuyaman]

If five police officers can’t control a 145 suspect on the ground without first beating him to death, then maybe they have no business in this line of work.

Obviously they didn’t have the proper mind-set or temperament for law enforcement.

They pull the guy out of the car, put him on the ground and keep yelling at him to get on the ground while he’s on the ground, then they start beating him because they say he’s not on the ground. They effed up from the second they made physical contact.

Yes, the guy ran when he got the opportunity. I can see why.