Two weeks notice. Is it fair to the employee?

[Deleted member 53821]

In the employer/employee relationship, it is wise to remember that the employer holds all the cards. So as tempting and as momentarily satisfying it might be, there is no point in pissing him off on the way out because you never know what the future might bring.

That depends on who's point of view you look at it from. An employee might feel they have no control over their situation which is true but every employer fears people mass quiting because they have to get the work done and they can't do that without employees.

 

[Jarlaxle]

I never gave any notice. There were times I got a new job at a lunch hour interview and never went back.

But you are well-known here to be a dipshit.

 

[TooTall]

At some lower level jobs it's actually a bad idea to give notice. I've known people who did the "right thing" and were told to leave immediately, losing out on two week's pay.

Where I worked, there were several Engineers that gave two weeks notice and were told to clean out their desk, then they were taken to Human Resources where they were paid two weeks pay and then escorted out the door. No hard feelings. Others, including me, were paid and asked to stay one more week so the boss could take me out to lunch, then the Secretaries did it and finally the VP and Director of Engineering took me and my family out to dinner at one of the most expensive restaurants in Los Angeles. It all depended on whether or not you were a good employee.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

How is it a hardship? Just hire someone else. Not rocket science. Its every man for himself. Teamwork is on the way out. Its the only recourse a good worker has.

Hardship? Here is a real world example. My daughter is the manager of a payday loan office. One Friday, her employee tells her she will not be back on Monday as she has a new job. Now, my daughter has to post the job, arrange interviews, conduct the interviews and then conduct the background check on the prospective employee. Three weeks later, after working alone in her office, 10 hours per day minimum, and 6 days per week, I am the one who has to pick up my grandsons from daycare because she cannot get there before they close. She has had no days off during the week in the month of December, which you can imagine is a very busy month.

Hardship! Definitely!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If your company terminates you. Security escorts you to your desk and watches you clear it out to make sure you are not stealing. You are then escorted out the door.

Why should an employee give two weeks notice?

Wow... Sounds like you've been through that drill!

Again... it's professional courtesy to give a notice if you are leaving for another job. There is no law that you have to. The employer can't sue you if you don't. It shows both your present and future employer that you have integrity, character and honor. I was always more than willing to wait 2 wks for a new hire to work a notice because that told me they were people of integrity who would do me right. And as I said earlier, I always gave departing employees the option to leave without working a notice. I have never fired anyone and given them two weeks notice but I have laid off people who I gave two weeks notice, or in some cases, paid them 2 wks severance.

Ha, 'professional courtesy.' Boy are those days gone. Businesses will dump your ass so quick, your head'll spin. There is no more 'courtesy.' Businesses don't care whether you and your family lives or dies. When it's time to dump you, it's happening. There is no 'two week notice' requirement.

It ain't about 'courtesy.' Those days are long gone. So Businesses shouldn't expect Employees to give them two weeks notice. To expect that, would just be disngenuous hypocrisy on their part.

Sounds like you had a lousy relationship with your employers more than once.

 

[paulitician]

If your company terminates you. Security escorts you to your desk and watches you clear it out to make sure you are not stealing. You are then escorted out the door.

Why should an employee give two weeks notice?

Wow... Sounds like you've been through that drill!

Again... it's professional courtesy to give a notice if you are leaving for another job. There is no law that you have to. The employer can't sue you if you don't. It shows both your present and future employer that you have integrity, character and honor. I was always more than willing to wait 2 wks for a new hire to work a notice because that told me they were people of integrity who would do me right. And as I said earlier, I always gave departing employees the option to leave without working a notice. I have never fired anyone and given them two weeks notice but I have laid off people who I gave two weeks notice, or in some cases, paid them 2 wks severance.

Ha, 'professional courtesy.' Boy are those days gone. Businesses will dump your ass so quick, your head'll spin. There is no more 'courtesy.' Businesses don't care whether you and your family lives or dies. When it's time to dump you, it's happening. There is no 'two week notice' requirement.

It ain't about 'courtesy.' Those days are long gone. So Businesses shouldn't expect Employees to give them two weeks notice. To expect that, would just be disngenuous hypocrisy on their part.

Businesses don't "expect" anything. Again, it is a professional courtesy you as the employee are offering to the employer to show your appreciation for the opportunity they gave you. If you don't feel so inclined, that's fine with the employer but if you leave them high and dry and just abandon your job one day without any word... that's not good. Whenever some potential future employer calls them for a reference, don't be surprised if they give you a poor one.

You are right... there are some real dick heels out there who don't care one whit about you or your family and will just terminate you for any reason they please... no notice... no nothing.. then they want to deny you unemployment to boot. If I worked for such a bastard and knew he did folks like that, I wouldn't work a notice with him either and I also wouldn't use him as a reference.

Don't expect courtesy from Employers. They'll dump Employees at their convenience. Honestly, they don't care whether you and your family live or die. When it's time to dump you, they do it.

There is no two week notice requirement. So there's no reason to expect Employees to give a two week notice. There is no more 'professional courtesy.' It is what it is.

 

[paulitician]

If your company terminates you. Security escorts you to your desk and watches you clear it out to make sure you are not stealing. You are then escorted out the door.

Why should an employee give two weeks notice?

Wow... Sounds like you've been through that drill!

Again... it's professional courtesy to give a notice if you are leaving for another job. There is no law that you have to. The employer can't sue you if you don't. It shows both your present and future employer that you have integrity, character and honor. I was always more than willing to wait 2 wks for a new hire to work a notice because that told me they were people of integrity who would do me right. And as I said earlier, I always gave departing employees the option to leave without working a notice. I have never fired anyone and given them two weeks notice but I have laid off people who I gave two weeks notice, or in some cases, paid them 2 wks severance.

Ha, 'professional courtesy.' Boy are those days gone. Businesses will dump your ass so quick, your head'll spin. There is no more 'courtesy.' Businesses don't care whether you and your family lives or dies. When it's time to dump you, it's happening. There is no 'two week notice' requirement.

It ain't about 'courtesy.' Those days are long gone. So Businesses shouldn't expect Employees to give them two weeks notice. To expect that, would just be disngenuous hypocrisy on their part.

Sounds like you had a lousy relationship with your employers more than once.

Nah, just stating truth and reality. Most businesses don't care whether you and your family live or die. Cutting Employees loose is purely a business decision. It has nothing to do with right or wrong. So businesses shouldn't expect two week notices from employees. It's an unreasonable hypocritical expectation. Period, end of story.

 

[OKTexas]

All you business saavy people here is a question. Should an employee have to give two weeks notice before leaving a job? I myself think that is not fair to the employee if the better job can be started immediately. Is there still this infringement of freedom on the employee?

There is no legal requirement to give notice, the notice is usually used to secure a good recommendation, if that not a concern you can go whenever.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If your company terminates you. Security escorts you to your desk and watches you clear it out to make sure you are not stealing. You are then escorted out the door.

Why should an employee give two weeks notice?

Wow... Sounds like you've been through that drill!

Again... it's professional courtesy to give a notice if you are leaving for another job. There is no law that you have to. The employer can't sue you if you don't. It shows both your present and future employer that you have integrity, character and honor. I was always more than willing to wait 2 wks for a new hire to work a notice because that told me they were people of integrity who would do me right. And as I said earlier, I always gave departing employees the option to leave without working a notice. I have never fired anyone and given them two weeks notice but I have laid off people who I gave two weeks notice, or in some cases, paid them 2 wks severance.

Ha, 'professional courtesy.' Boy are those days gone. Businesses will dump your ass so quick, your head'll spin. There is no more 'courtesy.' Businesses don't care whether you and your family lives or dies. When it's time to dump you, it's happening. There is no 'two week notice' requirement.

It ain't about 'courtesy.' Those days are long gone. So Businesses shouldn't expect Employees to give them two weeks notice. To expect that, would just be disngenuous hypocrisy on their part.

Sounds like you had a lousy relationship with your employers more than once.

Nah, just stating truth and reality. Most businesses don't care whether you and your family live or die. Cutting Employees loose is purely a business decision. It has nothing to do with right or wrong. So businesses shouldn't expect two week notices from employees. It's an unreasonable hypocritical expectation. Period, end of story.

My guess is that you don't understand the basic difference between being laid off and fired. I have never been fired, but I have been laid off more times than I care to count.

 

[paulitician]

All you business saavy people here is a question. Should an employee have to give two weeks notice before leaving a job? I myself think that is not fair to the employee if the better job can be started immediately. Is there still this infringement of freedom on the employee?

There is no legal requirement to give notice, the notice is usually used to secure a good recommendation, if that not a concern you can go whenever.

Correct. There is no obligation for an Employer or Employee to give a two week notice. 'Professional Courtesy' is an outdated obsolete concept. It no longer exists.

 

[paulitician]

If your company terminates you. Security escorts you to your desk and watches you clear it out to make sure you are not stealing. You are then escorted out the door.

Why should an employee give two weeks notice?

Wow... Sounds like you've been through that drill!

Again... it's professional courtesy to give a notice if you are leaving for another job. There is no law that you have to. The employer can't sue you if you don't. It shows both your present and future employer that you have integrity, character and honor. I was always more than willing to wait 2 wks for a new hire to work a notice because that told me they were people of integrity who would do me right. And as I said earlier, I always gave departing employees the option to leave without working a notice. I have never fired anyone and given them two weeks notice but I have laid off people who I gave two weeks notice, or in some cases, paid them 2 wks severance.

Ha, 'professional courtesy.' Boy are those days gone. Businesses will dump your ass so quick, your head'll spin. There is no more 'courtesy.' Businesses don't care whether you and your family lives or dies. When it's time to dump you, it's happening. There is no 'two week notice' requirement.

It ain't about 'courtesy.' Those days are long gone. So Businesses shouldn't expect Employees to give them two weeks notice. To expect that, would just be disngenuous hypocrisy on their part.

Sounds like you had a lousy relationship with your employers more than once.

Nah, just stating truth and reality. Most businesses don't care whether you and your family live or die. Cutting Employees loose is purely a business decision. It has nothing to do with right or wrong. So businesses shouldn't expect two week notices from employees. It's an unreasonable hypocritical expectation. Period, end of story.

My guess is that you don't understand the basic difference between being laid off and fired. I have never been fired, but I have been laid off more times than I care to count.

Right, and your Employer didn't care if you and your family dropped dead. It was a business decision. There is no two week notice requirement. It isn't expected of Employers, so it shouldn't be expected of Employees. It is what it is.

 

[Blackrook]

All you business saavy people here is a question. Should an employee have to give two weeks notice before leaving a job? I myself think that is not fair to the employee if the better job can be started immediately. Is there still this infringement of freedom on the employee?

A two week notice is never required. It is what you do so that you don't leave your employer holding the bag. Also, if you want to get a good reference letter from your employer, then give him two week notice.

 

[Gracie]

One week notice is sufficient. Most will tell you to hit the road the day you give the notice, anyway.

 

[paulitician]

All you business saavy people here is a question. Should an employee have to give two weeks notice before leaving a job? I myself think that is not fair to the employee if the better job can be started immediately. Is there still this infringement of freedom on the employee?

A two week notice is never required. It is what you do so that you don't leave your employer holding the bag. Also, if you want to get a good reference letter from your employer, then give him two week notice.

Why? Is an Employer required to give an Employee two week notice before dumping them? If not, the discussion is moot.

 

[Blackrook]

All you business saavy people here is a question. Should an employee have to give two weeks notice before leaving a job? I myself think that is not fair to the employee if the better job can be started immediately. Is there still this infringement of freedom on the employee?

A two week notice is never required. It is what you do so that you don't leave your employer holding the bag. Also, if you want to get a good reference letter from your employer, then give him two week notice.

Why? Is an Employer required to give an Employee two week notice before dumping them? If not, the discussion is moot.

You give a two week notice because it helps you, not the employer. It is real bad business to burn bridges with anyone, especially an employer you plan to put on your resume.

 

[paulitician]

All you business saavy people here is a question. Should an employee have to give two weeks notice before leaving a job? I myself think that is not fair to the employee if the better job can be started immediately. Is there still this infringement of freedom on the employee?

A two week notice is never required. It is what you do so that you don't leave your employer holding the bag. Also, if you want to get a good reference letter from your employer, then give him two week notice.

Why? Is an Employer required to give an Employee two week notice before dumping them? If not, the discussion is moot.

You give a two week notice because it helps you, not the employer. It is real bad business to burn bridges with anyone, especially an employer you plan to put on your resume.

'Burn Bridges?' What does that even mean? Employers can dump Employees without being required to give two week notices, but Employees must give two week notices? Sounds like a rigged immoral Corporate scam. A silly double standard for sure. A very outdated concept.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

f you're not giving notice, it's presumably because the new employer wants you immediately and, therefore, has no real reason to judge you on that score.

Your new employer doesnt give a shit if you burn the good will of your previous employer.

In most cases, if it's because the new employer is insisting on it, I'd say, "No, they don't care".

In other words they dont care once you leave there.
What a sucker....

 

[jillian]

All you business saavy people here is a question. Should an employee have to give two weeks notice before leaving a job? I myself think that is not fair to the employee if the better job can be started immediately. Is there still this infringement of freedom on the employee?

you can't leave an employer hanging like that. no one is going to hire someone who doesn't give two weeks notice.... because that lowlife would do the same to the new employer.

 

[jillian]

All you business saavy people here is a question. Should an employee have to give two weeks notice before leaving a job? I myself think that is not fair to the employee if the better job can be started immediately. Is there still this infringement of freedom on the employee?

A two week notice is never required. It is what you do so that you don't leave your employer holding the bag. Also, if you want to get a good reference letter from your employer, then give him two week notice.

Why? Is an Employer required to give an Employee two week notice before dumping them? If not, the discussion is moot.

You give a two week notice because it helps you, not the employer. It is real bad business to burn bridges with anyone, especially an employer you plan to put on your resume.

'Burn Bridges?' What does that even mean? Employers can dump Employees without being required to give two week notices, but Employees must give two week notices? Sounds like a rigged immoral Corporate scam. A silly double standard for sure. A very outdated concept.

have you ever had a real job?

 

[Rustic]

If it's in the employee handbook or you were told ahead of time about the policy you have no room to complain.

Just because it's in a handbook, doesn't mean anything. It has to be part of a contract. Giving notice is a courtesy, but it isn't the law. You have no obligation to stifle your future career on account of it. Do you think someone like Trump would, if it weren't part of a contract? Not a chance.

Having a job is a privilege, not an right...