Two Questions re: Ukraine

[Mac-7]

The war started after Biden was elected

Correct

BIDEN not Trump

 

[j-mac]

LOL!!! You’ve been on the board a while and should know how selective that can be.

Don’t come whining to me brother…Just stay on topic and that won’t happen…

 

[Hafar1014]

Correct

BIDEN not Trump

Because Biden was elected. Putin knew he was to impaired to deal him.

 

[Mac-7]

Because Biden was elected. Putin knew he was to impaired to deal him.

Putin has been playing the Dems under obama, and the Euro’s for a decade

As obama’s flunky, Biden was merely the last straw

 

[Hafar1014]

Putin has been playing the Dems under obama, and the Euro’s for a decade

Biden was merely the last straw

Afghanistan showed the world Biden was incompetent

 

[citygator]

Well, I learned nothing in this thread other than Cuba is important to the war in Ukraine which really isnt a war and the reason why Trump isnt putting more pressure on Russia is because of Biden, Obama, and neo-leftists made Trump win 3 elections for his two terms. Good talk.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Well, I learned nothing in this thread other than Cuba is important to the war in Ukraine which really isnt a war and the reason why Trump isnt putting more pressure on Russia is because of Biden, Obama, and neo-leftists made Trump win 3 elections for his two terms. Good talk.

"Trump isn't putting more pressure on Russia".
Nothing but GASLIGHT THEATRE BULLSHIT from the demented LEFT.
It's like the meeting with Putin didn't happen.
Like Zelensky isn't going to DC freaking TODAY.
All you demented avenger subverted demoralized Stalinist Marxist Leninist zombie ASSHOLES have are FAKE NARRATIVES.
What a freaking JOKE.

 

[j-mac]

Well, I learned nothing in this thread other than Cuba is important to the war in Ukraine which really isnt a war and the reason why Trump isnt putting more pressure on Russia is because of Biden, Obama, and neo-leftists made Trump win 3 elections for his two terms. Good talk.

I’ll quote Jeff Daniels in the movie Newsroom…

“If the left is so right all the time, why do they lose so goddamned always”?……

 

[Mac-7]

Well, I learned nothing in this thread other than Cuba is important to the war in Ukraine which really isnt a war and the reason why Trump isnt putting more pressure on Russia is because of Biden, Obama, and neo-leftists made Trump win 3 elections for his two terms. Good talk.

Should Z-man give up territory already occupied by russia?

 

[Hafar1014]

Well, I learned nothing in this thread other than Cuba is important to the war in Ukraine which really isnt a war and the reason why Trump isnt putting more pressure on Russia is because of Biden, Obama, and neo-leftists made Trump win 3 elections for his two terms. Good talk.

You should stop after your first 4 words

 

[GLASNOST]

The philosophy appears to be, "well, it would be hard to get Putin out, so we'll just make Ukraine reward the murderous dictator for invading".

You are out of your mind.

The Chamberlain comparisons are fitting.

Chamberlain? What a nincompoop you are. You know nothing about WW II, nothing about Cuba, nothing about history what so ever, and definitely nothing about current events either. I don’t know if your parents paid for your education but they ought to demand their money refunded.

 

[Hellokitty]

Two political questions for one political party:

1. Republicans, who started the war in Ukraine?

2. Republicans, since Trump is so concerned about ending the war and saving lives, why isn't all his energy being spent doing what it takes to get Putin out of Ukraine?

No need for personal attacks or spin or changing the subject. Those are two clear, straightforward, and perfectly reasonable questions.

Donald Trump 'setting Zelensky up to fail' after Vladimir Putin's 'manipulation'

1- don't care who started the war.
2- why should any POTUS focus all their energy on solving problems for other countries?

 

[Hafar1014]

You are out of your mind.

Chamberlain? What a nincompoop you are. You know nothing about WW II, nothing about Cuba, nothing about history what so ever, and definitely nothing about current events either. I don’t know if your parents paid for your education but they ought to demand their money refunded.

Neville Chamberlain is a great example of the democrats view of evil. Look at Bidens Iran policies

 

[Mac1958]

The war started after Biden was elected

Who started the war?

You seriously can't answer that? This is why I included question #1.

Who started the war?

 

[citygator]

"Trump isn't putting more pressure on Russia".
Nothing but GASLIGHT THEATRE BULLSHIT from the demented LEFT.
It's like the meeting with Putin didn't happen.
Like Zelensky isn't going to DC freaking TODAY.
All you demented avenger subverted demoralized Stalinist Marxist Leninist zombie ASSHOLES have are FAKE NARRATIVES.
What a freaking JOKE.

Pressure:

"Look, Russia is a very big power, and they're not [Ukraine]," said the President

Trump said Putin's observations were "profound,".

Trump referenced Russia's forces as "They're great soldiers"

"We'll speak to you very soon and probably see you again very soon." Trump said
"Next time in Moscow," a smiling Putin responded in English.

 

[j-mac]

Who started the war?

You seriously can't answer that?

Who started the war?

Russia.

 

[Mac1958]

1- don't care who started the war.
2- why should any POTUS focus all their energy on solving problems for other countries?

Then we agree that he has no business being part of this process, and that he's in no position to make demands of anyone.. Good.

 

[j-mac]

Then we agree that he has no business being part of this process. Good.

So, you’d give Putin a green light to continue….

 

[SeaMajor7]

Pressure:

"Look, Russia is a very big power, and they're not [Ukraine]," said the President

Trump said Putin's observations were "profound,".

Trump referenced Russia's forces as "They're great soldiers"

"We'll speak to you very soon and probably see you again very soon." Trump said
"Next time in Moscow," a smiling Putin responded in English.

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And WHAT?
Your now going with the let's take everything Trump says VERBATIM out of context to shape a desired NARRATIVE game?
Just STFU.

 

[JoeB131]

Two political questions for one political party:

1. Republicans, who started the war in Ukraine?

2. Republicans, since Trump is so concerned about ending the war and saving lives, why isn't all his energy being spent doing what it takes to get Putin out of Ukraine?

No need for personal attacks or spin or changing the subject. Those are two clear, straightforward, and perfectly reasonable questions.

Mac...

I know you won't answer this, because you don't have the guts to have someone counter your world view.

The Ukrainians are every bit as responsible for this war as the Russians.

There was an agreement in place regarding the Lubensk and Donetsk People's Republics. It was called the Minsk Accords. Zelenskyy violated those accords by trying to defeat the LPR and DPR militarily, which in turn, triggered Russian intervention.

ON a more macro scale, these regions, and Crimea, never should have been part of Ukraine to start with. They are ethnically Russian. And when the legitimately elected pro-Russian president was deposed by a Western-instigated coup, they rightfully decided that they no longer had a place in Ukraine.

What Trump is proposing (sloppily, because the man doesn't do the hard work) is that Crimea, Donetsk, and Luhansk be ceded to Russia in exchange for the return of Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, and other territory taken. In short, making the de facto status before the war started the de jure status.

Now, I think everyone here knows I'm critical of Trump. The man just can't do anything right, and this is no exception.

But Biden really stepped in it when he wrote Zelenskyy a blank check.