Two Questions re: Ukraine

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If Biden didn't agree with Trump's actions, he had a responsibility to change course.

Biden had a duty to honor the agreement made by the United States of America, which was already started and in place.

This is in contrast to the fat rapist, who tears up agreements out of jealousy and pettiness.

Countries can no longer trust the untied states to honor their agreements.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Two political questions for one political party:

1. Republicans, who started the war in Ukraine?

2. Republicans, since Trump is so concerned about ending the war and saving lives, why isn't all his energy being spent doing what it takes to get Putin out of Ukraine?

No need for personal attacks or spin or changing the subject. Those are two clear, straightforward, and perfectly reasonable questions.

Donald Trump 'setting Zelensky up to fail' after Vladimir Putin's 'manipulation'

Not surprised you would be Googling for stories that want to see Trump fail.

1 hour ago

European Leaders Praise Trump​

By

Alex Leary

“Something has changed, thanks to you,” Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni said to President Trump. “If we want to reach peace and if we want to guarantee justice, we have to do it united.” She said security guarantees are a vital part of the conversation. French President Emmanuel Macron echoed such remarks.
German Chancellor Friedrich Merz said Trump had opened the door to a resolution but noted complicated next steps. “Let’s try to put pressure on Russia,” he said, advocating a cease-fire to emerge from whatever meeting comes next. European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said a top priority in addition to ending the war was returning Ukrainian children held in Russia.

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-zelensky-meeting-russia-ukraine/card/european-leaders-praise-trump-AkRBKulatBfbaQ57mzCE?msockid=32b044cb72e363e9347e51fd73596284

 

[DigitalDrifter]

 

[MetalMars]

Lol. Your threads are always a hoot.

I’m not a Republican or a Democrat. Are you a Democrat?

The war started when Ears couped the elected government of Ukraine in 2014, installing a rabidly anti-Russian government that proceeded to murder Russian speakers in east Ukraine. I’m sure this is news to you. Look it up!

If you think doing all to remove Russia from Ukraine is acceptable government policy, you’re a fool. Do you want nuclear war over a Nazi infested corrupt nation?

Think better. Stick to what you know.

Stop posting flame threads.

If he stuck with what he knows, we'd never hear from him again.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

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Hahaha

You need to understand that these people are desperately massaging the fat rapist's ego, because they are willing to suck it up and deceive him and embarrass themselves to save Ukraine.

I figured you woul have learned that lesson the last time he hilariously tongue bathed Trump.

 

[Kondor3]

Technically Ukraine Started the war in 2014 with obammy

Did Putin invade Ukraine because of NATOs "broken promise"? | Feature from King's College London

BARBARA ZANCHETTA: The motivation for Russia’s brutal aggression on Ukraine has been linked to NATO’s eastward expansion after the end of the Cold War. The argument is simple: Russia had (and…

www.kcl.ac.uk

That was merely the excuse de jour for a Land Grab... you know that just as well as I do, even if you won't admit it.

 

[Nostra]

The grand deflection. The Doha Agreement was fulfilled in 2020, well our end of the agreement anyway. The Taliban didn't fulfill 6 out of 7 of its conditions. Conditions that should have been met before we started Trump's Skedaddle. In 2020 Trump withdrew 4 times as many troops as he left behind for the next president, who had to deal with the withdrawal deadline. Just 2,500 troops. Not enough to carry out any evacuation.

How is correcting your lie on the issue a deflection?

 

[Nostra]

How convenient of you to forget the events of 2020. Before the Doha Accords were signed we had over 13,000 troop stationed there. By the end of 2020 and Benedict's term, we only had about 2,500. Those withdrawals, along with a few others, was our commitment in those accords. The Taliban didn't honor 6 out of 7 of its commitments. Why did Benedict continue to withdraw all those troops when the Taliban refused to comply with the conditions they agreed too? Afghanistan was already descending into chaos throughout 2020 because the Taliban was allowed to continue its terrorization of the Afghan Countryside.

There was not a single US military member killed in Afghanistan for the last 18 months of Trump’s term. 2500 was plenty if they would have used Bagram AFB instead of the one in the middle of a city controlled by the Taliban.


You lost this argument again.

 

[Nostra]

Biden had a duty to honor the agreement made by the United States of America, which was already started and in place.

This is in contrast to the fat rapist, who tears up agreements out of jealousy and pettiness.

Countries can no longer trust the untied states to honor their agreements.

No stupid, the Taliban violated the agreement, so withdrawal was Tater’s decision.

 

[Nostra]

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Mac1958 gets destroyed in his own thread……again!

 

[BlindBoo]

There was not a single US military member killed in Afghanistan for the last 18 months of Trump’s term. 2500 was plenty if they would have used Bagram AFB instead of the one in the middle of a city controlled by the Taliban.


You lost this argument again.

You've been misinformed.

Benedict Donald lost more soldiers in combat with the Taliban than Biden did. In fact Biden didn't lose a single soldier in combat with the Taliban. The only US casualties under Biden was because of an ISIS terrorist attack. Stopping foreign terrorist from using Afghanistan as a base was one of the conditions Big Daddy Don allowed the Taliban to ignore before he withdrew the bulk of our fighting force.

 

[j-mac]

You've been misinformed.

Benedict Donald lost more soldiers in combat with the Taliban than Biden did. In fact Biden didn't lose a single soldier in combat with the Taliban. The only US casualties under Biden was because of an ISIS terrorist attack. Stopping foreign terrorist from using Afghanistan as a base was one of the conditions Big Daddy Don allowed the Taliban to ignore before he withdrew the bulk of our fighting force.

Don’t you get dizzy?

 

[BlindBoo]

No stupid, the Taliban violated the agreement,

They violated it within weeks of the signing of the agreement. Furthermore, the timeframe for carrying out the conditions in the agreement was 135 days. Well within the summer of 2020. By the time poor Joe took office, all the goodies in the Candy Store were gone. That is, we met nearly all our conditions except removing the last 2,500 troops and the Taliban had virtually not met any of theirs.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Two political questions for one political party:

1. Republicans, who started the war in Ukraine?

The Soviets

2. Republicans, since Trump is so concerned about ending the war and saving lives, why isn't all his energy being spent doing what it takes to get Putin out of Ukraine?

Because "doing what it takes to get Putin out of Ukraine" means forcing him out with US ground troops.
The reasons this will not - and should not - happen should be obvious.

 

[BlindBoo]

Read with less partisanism, you're saying Trump made the right decision and Biden made the wrong decision.

Which is exactly my point.

The Doha Agreement as good as it was going to get, if all side followed the conditions. We did. The Taliban didn't and Donnie still Skedaddled. The press roundly ignored the chaos that was occurring in Afghanistan too. Except for the NYT.

Afghan War Casualty Report: October 2020 (Published 2020)

At least 369 pro-government forces and 212 civilians were killed in Afghanistan in October, marking the highest civilian death toll in a single month since September 2019.

www.nytimes.com

"At least 369 pro-government forces and 212 civilians were killed in Afghanistan in October, marking the highest civilian death toll in a single month since September 2019."

 

[Mac1958]

The Soviets

Because "doing what it takes to get Putin out of Ukraine" means forcing him out with US ground troops.
The reasons this will not - and should not - happen should be obvious.

That's your opinion, not mine. I don't want our troops there. I think this can be done with tougher financial sanctions (which Trump threatened and then removed, TACO) and with certain types of arms.

But you can imagine anything you'd like.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Two political questions for one political party:

1. Republicans, who started the war in Ukraine?

2. Republicans, since Trump is so concerned about ending the war and saving lives, why isn't all his energy being spent doing what it takes to get Putin out of Ukraine?

No need for personal attacks or spin or changing the subject. Those are two clear, straightforward, and perfectly reasonable questions.

Donald Trump 'setting Zelensky up to fail' after Vladimir Putin's 'manipulation'

1. Putin.

2. He is.

3. Questions answered.

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[M14 Shooter]

That's your opinion, not mine. I don't want our troops there.

Your opinion has no basis in fact, reason, or reality.
But, you can imagine anything you like.

Good that you agree the reasons we should not put troops there are obvious.

 

[Nostra]

You've been misinformed.

Benedict Donald lost more soldiers in combat with the Taliban than Biden did. In fact Biden didn't lose a single soldier in combat with the Taliban. The only US casualties under Biden was because of an ISIS terrorist attack. Stopping foreign terrorist from using Afghanistan as a base was one of the conditions Big Daddy Don allowed the Taliban to ignore before he withdrew the bulk of our fighting force.

Lies.

No soldier died from an attack in Afghanistan for the last 18 months of Trump's Presidency.

Biden killed 13 of our soldiers with his incompetence and ignoring his military leaders about using Bagram.

 

[Nostra]

They violated it within weeks of the signing of the agreement. Furthermore, the timeframe for carrying out the conditions in the agreement was 135 days. Well within the summer of 2020. By the time poor Joe took office, all the goodies in the Candy Store were gone. That is, we met nearly all our conditions except removing the last 2,500 troops and the Taliban had virtually not met any of theirs.

Nice unhinged rant. Has nothing to do with reality, but kudos to you.

The deal was we would leave if they met all the conditions. You just admitted Biden bugged out despite the Taliban not living up to the agreement. Man, you are really stupid.

Biden pulled out the last of the troops on HIS timeline. He followed nothing in the agreement Trump made.