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You’re claiming millions of illegal votes and admitting that the commission intending to identify these could never actually find what you’re claiming, they it wasn’t possible.What the hell are you talking about ?So you’re claiming something exists for which you have no evidence?
Not so much CNN as the facts.But, but, but, CNN says there is no voter fraud with absentee ballots.
apnews.com
If that's who you are, great.Yeah like Obama telling us, this is not who we are?And that makes it okay with you? The President of the United States of America behaving like this?Seriously? Twitter is infested with vile lies. So, it's just Trump that is telling lies?
The story has only been out for a few hours. Libel is certainly a possibility, and a suit could come about in days or weeks.Whats telling is that Trump isn’t even claiming libel. If he were, he’d just sue them and he clearly has no problems doing that for others.
But Trump is threatening federal regulations to harm Twitter. To shut them down.
This would be unconstitutional and demonstrates just how unfit he is for office.
Anyway, I’ve already demonstrated your ignorance but you‘ve cut out those sections of my reply for you to ignore, unsurprisingly.
Try reading the thread before you post. Your Trump Commission notion was refuted in Post # 105.. That makes at least 2 liberal dummies now, who blew it the same way in this thread.Not so much CNN as the facts.
Report: Trump commission did not find widespread voter fraud
PORTLAND, Maine (AP) — The now-disbanded voting integrity commission launched by the Trump administration uncovered no evidence to support claims of widespread voter fraud, according to an analysis of administration documents released Friday.
None of these limitations to free speech apply to this case, whatsoever. Libel doesn’t apply and if it did, Trump would have to go through civil court to do so. And he would still have to prove malice as I tried to educate you about.The story has only been out for a few hours. Libel is certainly a possibility, and a suit could come about in days or weeks.Whats telling is that Trump isn’t even claiming libel. If he were, he’d just sue them and he clearly has no problems doing that for others.
But Trump is threatening federal regulations to harm Twitter. To shut them down.
This would be unconstitutional and demonstrates just how unfit he is for office.
Anyway, I’ve already demonstrated your ignorance but you‘ve cut out those sections of my reply for you to ignore, unsurprisingly.
They ought to be shut down, they are a fake news public menace.
It is not unconstitutional to stop speech which is libelous. There are many other constraints against free speech as well (slander, libel, perjury, inciting a riot, threats, obscenity laws, plagiarism, copyright infringement, verbal abuse of elderly (FL statute 825.102), sedition, causing a disturbance, false advertising, etc), and the age old example > "yelling fire in a crowded theater".
The Cold War against the USSR ended 30 years ago. Today, Russians conduct a propaganda and misinformation war centered on disrupting our global power and helping conservatives get elected.Ha ha. Can you believe it ? They're still sputtering about the "Russians". I wonder where that obsession came from. Hey guys. Russian cold war ended 30 years ago. Pheeew!Especially from the Russians
And the facts of Russian collusion now point against Hillary, the DNC, Obama admin. Haven't heard ? Oh that's right - you watch CNN.
Can you believe Trump threatened to shut down Twitter?None of these limitations to free speech apply to this case, whatsoever. Libel doesn’t apply and if it did, Trump would have to go through civil court to do so. And he would still have to prove malice as I tried to educate you about.The story has only been out for a few hours. Libel is certainly a possibility, and a suit could come about in days or weeks.Whats telling is that Trump isn’t even claiming libel. If he were, he’d just sue them and he clearly has no problems doing that for others.
But Trump is threatening federal regulations to harm Twitter. To shut them down.
This would be unconstitutional and demonstrates just how unfit he is for office.
Anyway, I’ve already demonstrated your ignorance but you‘ve cut out those sections of my reply for you to ignore, unsurprisingly.
They ought to be shut down, they are a fake news public menace.
It is not unconstitutional to stop speech which is libelous. There are many other constraints against free speech as well (slander, libel, perjury, inciting a riot, threats, obscenity laws, plagiarism, copyright infringement, verbal abuse of elderly (FL statute 825.102), sedition, causing a disturbance, false advertising, etc), and the age old example > "yelling fire in a crowded theater".
Trump is behaving like a thug and demonstrating his contempt for freedom of speech. So are you, by wanting to see them shut down. This is un-American.
Spewing horseshit as you did in post #105 isn't refutation. The commission's purpose was to substantiate Trump's baseless claims about voter fraud. It failed, because voter fraud is not a problem.Try reading the thread before you post. Your Trump Commission notion was refuted in Post # 105.. That makes at least 2 liberal dummies now, who blew it the same way in this thread.
1. No, you don't have to prove malice. 3 things need to be present for libel or slander.. False, damaging, and spoken to a 3rd party.Making a false statement in writing, about somebody, which causes damage to that person in some way, IS LIBEL. This fits the definition. You stand CORRECTED.They didn’t commit libel. Attempting to threaten legal action is a threat to free speech, such as a SLAPP suit and is disgraceful.
What did they say was false? Furthermore, you have to prove actual malice.
Lets be honest, Trump just wants to suppress free speech he doesn’t like because he’s a thug. He’s done it before and demonstrates he does not respect our most basic freedoms.
Trump and the First Amendment — Public Participation Project
anti-slapp.org
2. What they said that was false, was that Trump's words were false They were not. Everything he said was true,and they have no evidence to refute it. In fact, Trump didn't go far enough in condemning mail-in voting. Much more could be said about it that he didn't say.
For instance, millions of already deported illegal aliens could continue to vote, even from the foreign country they're in, just by mailing their ballots to the US. A deported in illegal could vote in a US election from south Mexico, hundreds of miles away from the US, with no accountability at all. Trump should have mentioned that also.
As for your Trump thug talk, we all know you're deeply programmed by CNN, MSNBC Washington Post, and other leftist media. No need to give us a performance.
God, you are ignorant, but hey dude, this is what happens when you put all your chips into liberal OMISSION media. It may interest you to know that for years before the Trump Commission fiasco (which I refuted in Post # 105) came about, there have been HUNDREDS of studies on illegal alien voting, showing it occuring in large degree, all over the US. You don't know ?You’re claiming millions of illegal votes and admitting that the commission intending to identify these could never actually find what you’re claiming, they it wasn’t possible.What the hell are you talking about ?So you’re claiming something exists for which you have no evidence?
So you’re claim of these illegal votes is based solely on belief rather than fact.
Of course I can! He threatens everyone with nonsense accusations and almost never follows through. He’s a thug.Can you believe Trump threatened to shut down Twitter?None of these limitations to free speech apply to this case, whatsoever. Libel doesn’t apply and if it did, Trump would have to go through civil court to do so. And he would still have to prove malice as I tried to educate you about.The story has only been out for a few hours. Libel is certainly a possibility, and a suit could come about in days or weeks.Whats telling is that Trump isn’t even claiming libel. If he were, he’d just sue them and he clearly has no problems doing that for others.
But Trump is threatening federal regulations to harm Twitter. To shut them down.
This would be unconstitutional and demonstrates just how unfit he is for office.
Anyway, I’ve already demonstrated your ignorance but you‘ve cut out those sections of my reply for you to ignore, unsurprisingly.
They ought to be shut down, they are a fake news public menace.
It is not unconstitutional to stop speech which is libelous. There are many other constraints against free speech as well (slander, libel, perjury, inciting a riot, threats, obscenity laws, plagiarism, copyright infringement, verbal abuse of elderly (FL statute 825.102), sedition, causing a disturbance, false advertising, etc), and the age old example > "yelling fire in a crowded theater".
Trump is behaving like a thug and demonstrating his contempt for freedom of speech. So are you, by wanting to see them shut down. This is un-American.
I’ve seen a lot of those studies. The problem is that whenever anyone tries to actually find the illegal votes, they almost always come up empty handed.God, you are ignorant, but hey dude, this is what happens when you put all your chips into liberal OMISSION media. It may interest you to know that for years before the Trump Commission fiasco (which I refuted in Post # 105) came about, there have been HUNDREDS of studies on illegal alien voting, showing it occuring in large degree, all over the US. You don't know ?You’re claiming millions of illegal votes and admitting that the commission intending to identify these could never actually find what you’re claiming, they it wasn’t possible.What the hell are you talking about ?So you’re claiming something exists for which you have no evidence?
So you’re claim of these illegal votes is based solely on belief rather than fact.
This is what happens when you don't read or watch Fox or Newsmax TV. Here's a relatively small sample of what your liberal media has been hiding from you.. I suggest you get off the computer, and READ, BABY! READ! Come out into the light. You've got a lot of catching up to do.
Poll: 13% of Illegal Aliens ADMIT They Vote - California Political Review
https://publicinterestlegal.org/files/Report_Alien-Invasion-in-Virginia.pdf
Study supports Trump: 5.7 million noncitizens may have cast illegal votes
Nevada Sec. State: DMV Instructed Employees To Register Non-Citizens To Vote
Texas Democrats ask noncitizens to register to vote
https://publicinterestlegal.org/files/Safe-Spaces_Final.pdf
Finally Proof of Illegal Alien Voting
Noncitizens, Voting Violations and U.S. Elections | Federation for American Immigration Reform
Illegal Aliens Really Do Vote – a Lot
https://publicinterestlegal.org/files/Philadelphia-Litigation-Report.pdf
Exclusive: Florida Investigating Potential Non-Citizen Voters
Can you believe Trump threatened to shut down Twitter?None of these limitations to free speech apply to this case, whatsoever. Libel doesn’t apply and if it did, Trump would have to go through civil court to do so. And he would still have to prove malice as I tried to educate you about.The story has only been out for a few hours. Libel is certainly a possibility, and a suit could come about in days or weeks.Whats telling is that Trump isn’t even claiming libel. If he were, he’d just sue them and he clearly has no problems doing that for others.
But Trump is threatening federal regulations to harm Twitter. To shut them down.
This would be unconstitutional and demonstrates just how unfit he is for office.
Anyway, I’ve already demonstrated your ignorance but you‘ve cut out those sections of my reply for you to ignore, unsurprisingly.
They ought to be shut down, they are a fake news public menace.
It is not unconstitutional to stop speech which is libelous. There are many other constraints against free speech as well (slander, libel, perjury, inciting a riot, threats, obscenity laws, plagiarism, copyright infringement, verbal abuse of elderly (FL statute 825.102), sedition, causing a disturbance, false advertising, etc), and the age old example > "yelling fire in a crowded theater".
Trump is behaving like a thug and demonstrating his contempt for freedom of speech. So are you, by wanting to see them shut down. This is un-American.
NONSENSE! proof of voter fraud alien voting has been around for years. It;s just that you information-deprived liberals are so victimized and duped, by liberal OMISSION media, that you are clueless on many things. Alien voting is just one among many.Trump is the one who is lying here, and the over the top enraged response of Brad Parscale was ridiculous. Trump has done nothing but lie, smear, slander and promote conspiracy theories against his perceived "enemies" for weeks. In Trump's toddler world, anyone who dares to disagree with his lies, false information, and dangerous medical advice, is an "enemy", even as tens of thousands of Americans lie dying because of Trump's failure to manage this crisis.
Trump has no proof of voter fraud, except the vote harvesting committed by Republicans in 2018, but he is now promoting false "voter fraud" fears so he can falsely claim that Americans didn't vote him out of office come November, in the very likely event he loses the election.
Just like he planted false claims that the last election was "rigged" when he expected to lose. I have long believed that Trump is getting even on the American economy for his failures as a businessman. To this day, no American bank will lend Donald Trump money. He's been in a rage over that for decades. That's why he deals with Deutches Banke. He's such a bitter, twisted narcisscist, and nothing is ever his fault. Look at the hatred he bears for the government of Puerto Rico and blaming them for his resort there going bankrupt? Look how he has treated the island in the wake of Hurricane Maria.
Trump has allowed the pandemic to rage throughout America, unabated. When governors tried to keep hard hit states shut down, Trump encouraged protests against the lock downs. All Trump has succeeded in doing is making things much much worse. Already, tens of thousands more people have died than predicted because of the failure of the Trump Administration to put together a national testing strategy, an effective program to maintain and distribute the National Stockpile, or a national pandemic response plan.
The USA still has no effective testing program, and some hospitals are still begging for PPE's. Red state hospitals are now reporting that they're becoming overwhelmed by the caseloads and many places are running out of hospital beds.
As a result, the rate of infection and death continues to rise across the country, while other nations who had their first cases at the same time as the USA, have far more closed cases than active cases, and have all of the testing and PPE's they need.
If Donald Trump had set out to destroy the USA, he could not have done a more efficient or effective job of it. Coming on the heels of the 2008 financial collapse, the American people may never recover financially for the 40 years of abuse and neglect of the American people, and the American infrastructure the Republican Party has inflicted on the nation.
What a wrong headed, fiscally disastrous ruin Republican policies have been. Your people are poor, weaker, sicker, and dying in much greater numbers, while wealthy corporations have now succeeded in destroying small business, in favour of massive monopolies and corporations.
Trump has been promoting lies and conspiracy theories via twitter. People are complaining to twitter about the lies Donald Trump is posting. The families of the people he has falsely attacked are complaining about his lies. I would like to see Donald Trump banned from twitter for lying.
Finding illegal votes is easy enough to doI’ve seen a lot of those studies. The problem is that whenever anyone tries to actually find the illegal votes, they almost always come up empty handed.God, you are ignorant, but hey dude, this is what happens when you put all your chips into liberal OMISSION media. It may interest you to know that for years before the Trump Commission fiasco (which I refuted in Post # 105) came about, there have been HUNDREDS of studies on illegal alien voting, showing it occuring in large degree, all over the US. You don't know ?You’re claiming millions of illegal votes and admitting that the commission intending to identify these could never actually find what you’re claiming, they it wasn’t possible.What the hell are you talking about ?So you’re claiming something exists for which you have no evidence?
So you’re claim of these illegal votes is based solely on belief rather than fact.
This is what happens when you don't read or watch Fox or Newsmax TV. Here's a relatively small sample of what your liberal media has been hiding from you.. I suggest you get off the computer, and READ, BABY! READ! Come out into the light. You've got a lot of catching up to do.
Poll: 13% of Illegal Aliens ADMIT They Vote - California Political Review
https://publicinterestlegal.org/files/Report_Alien-Invasion-in-Virginia.pdf
Study supports Trump: 5.7 million noncitizens may have cast illegal votes
Nevada Sec. State: DMV Instructed Employees To Register Non-Citizens To Vote
Texas Democrats ask noncitizens to register to vote
https://publicinterestlegal.org/files/Safe-Spaces_Final.pdf
Finally Proof of Illegal Alien Voting
Noncitizens, Voting Violations and U.S. Elections | Federation for American Immigration Reform
Illegal Aliens Really Do Vote – a Lot
https://publicinterestlegal.org/files/Philadelphia-Litigation-Report.pdf
Exclusive: Florida Investigating Potential Non-Citizen Voters
So the studies and think tanks can say whatever they want, but the proof just isn’t there.
Show us proof of aliens voting thenNONSENSE! proof of voter fraud alien voting has been around for years. It;s just that you information-deprived liberals are so victimized and duped, by liberal OMISSION media, that you are clueless on many things. Alien voting is just one among many.Trump is the one who is lying here, and the over the top enraged response of Brad Parscale was ridiculous. Trump has done nothing but lie, smear, slander and promote conspiracy theories against his perceived "enemies" for weeks. In Trump's toddler world, anyone who dares to disagree with his lies, false information, and dangerous medical advice, is an "enemy", even as tens of thousands of Americans lie dying because of Trump's failure to manage this crisis.
Trump has no proof of voter fraud, except the vote harvesting committed by Republicans in 2018, but he is now promoting false "voter fraud" fears so he can falsely claim that Americans didn't vote him out of office come November, in the very likely event he loses the election.
Just like he planted false claims that the last election was "rigged" when he expected to lose. I have long believed that Trump is getting even on the American economy for his failures as a businessman. To this day, no American bank will lend Donald Trump money. He's been in a rage over that for decades. That's why he deals with Deutches Banke. He's such a bitter, twisted narcisscist, and nothing is ever his fault. Look at the hatred he bears for the government of Puerto Rico and blaming them for his resort there going bankrupt? Look how he has treated the island in the wake of Hurricane Maria.
Trump has allowed the pandemic to rage throughout America, unabated. When governors tried to keep hard hit states shut down, Trump encouraged protests against the lock downs. All Trump has succeeded in doing is making things much much worse. Already, tens of thousands more people have died than predicted because of the failure of the Trump Administration to put together a national testing strategy, an effective program to maintain and distribute the National Stockpile, or a national pandemic response plan.
The USA still has no effective testing program, and some hospitals are still begging for PPE's. Red state hospitals are now reporting that they're becoming overwhelmed by the caseloads and many places are running out of hospital beds.
As a result, the rate of infection and death continues to rise across the country, while other nations who had their first cases at the same time as the USA, have far more closed cases than active cases, and have all of the testing and PPE's they need.
If Donald Trump had set out to destroy the USA, he could not have done a more efficient or effective job of it. Coming on the heels of the 2008 financial collapse, the American people may never recover financially for the 40 years of abuse and neglect of the American people, and the American infrastructure the Republican Party has inflicted on the nation.
What a wrong headed, fiscally disastrous ruin Republican policies have been. Your people are poor, weaker, sicker, and dying in much greater numbers, while wealthy corporations have now succeeded in destroying small business, in favour of massive monopolies and corporations.
Trump has been promoting lies and conspiracy theories via twitter. People are complaining to twitter about the lies Donald Trump is posting. The families of the people he has falsely attacked are complaining about his lies. I would like to see Donald Trump banned from twitter for lying.
And in this thread, you all have already lost the debate on alien fraud voting. You shot yourselves in the foot, and tried to cite the Trump Commission as your basis. Your liberal OMISSION media "forgot" to tell you that it was flop because blue states refused to participate. Without participation, you don't have a study. Duh? Get it now, airheads ?
And I'll ask you the same question I asked colfax. Can you show even one state in the US that requires proof of CITIZENSHIP to vote ? Rhetorical question. I'll answer it. No you can't. Result: Milllions of aliens voting in every US election. See post 133.
Can you believe Trump threatened to shut down Twitter?None of these limitations to free speech apply to this case, whatsoever. Libel doesn’t apply and if it did, Trump would have to go through civil court to do so. And he would still have to prove malice as I tried to educate you about.The story has only been out for a few hours. Libel is certainly a possibility, and a suit could come about in days or weeks.Whats telling is that Trump isn’t even claiming libel. If he were, he’d just sue them and he clearly has no problems doing that for others.
But Trump is threatening federal regulations to harm Twitter. To shut them down.
This would be unconstitutional and demonstrates just how unfit he is for office.
Anyway, I’ve already demonstrated your ignorance but you‘ve cut out those sections of my reply for you to ignore, unsurprisingly.
They ought to be shut down, they are a fake news public menace.
It is not unconstitutional to stop speech which is libelous. There are many other constraints against free speech as well (slander, libel, perjury, inciting a riot, threats, obscenity laws, plagiarism, copyright infringement, verbal abuse of elderly (FL statute 825.102), sedition, causing a disturbance, false advertising, etc), and the age old example > "yelling fire in a crowded theater".
Trump is behaving like a thug and demonstrating his contempt for freedom of speech. So are you, by wanting to see them shut down. This is un-American.
Talking about cutting off his nose to spite his face. It's the only medium he has at the moment. No rallies. Press conferences have been a total bust for him. Trump can only thrive in a forum where no one can question him or call him on his lies.
1. Yes it is, and you are just hiding from them in denial.I’ve seen a lot of those studies. The problem is that whenever anyone tries to actually find the illegal votes, they almost always come up empty handed.
So the studies and think tanks can say whatever they want, but the proof just isn’t there.
