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Twelve Step Program for Peace in the Middle East

David2004

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Only by a truly international effort can the Israeli crisis in the Middle East be resolved once and for all. It will be the United States and Israel verses the community of nations of the world with a very few exceptions. The platform and manner that the difference between the parties can be resolved will be up to the United States and Israel. Basically they have two choices with the first being they continue to dictate term and conditions that will eventually led to more wars and military conflicts as it has for the last sixty years. Or two we can change course drastically opening the whole crisis before an International Tribunal that will dictate terms and condition on matters that have not already been resolved by the parties of concern The International Tribunal ruling will have to be imposed onto the parties of concern.

The latter of the two choices will require at least a twenty year twelve-step program to peace and security. With the United Nations, League of Arab Nations, NATO, European Union and the NGO’s of humanity coming together for a twenty year mission. Israel and the United States will be called before the International Tribunal as well as any other nations or people involved war crimes related to this crisis. Each side will have a chance to present their case with the International Tribunal making the final ruling which is a ruling of a settlement more than punishment.

Any military aggressive action taken by any of the parties involved after the International Peacekeepers have entered the region will be judged much more harshly than war crimes committed in the past.

· Stop the fighting
· Move in International Peacekeepers
· Set-up the Peace table for long term negations
· Set-up long term international relief efforts
· Set up the International Tribunal
· Resolve the agreeable difference outside the International Tribunal
· International Tribunal gives ruling on unsettled matters
· Enforcement of International Tribunal rulings
· The monitoring of the situation on the ground
· Fine tuning of any problems
· The dismembering of the International Tribunal
· A world wide celebration for peace
 

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David2004 said:
Only by a truly international effort can the Israeli crisis in the Middle East be resolved once and for all. It will be the United States and Israel verses the community of nations of the world with a very few exceptions. The platform and manner that the difference between the parties can be resolved will be up to the United States and Israel. Basically they have two choices with the first being they continue to dictate term and conditions that will eventually led to more wars and military conflicts as it has for the last sixty years. Or two we can change course drastically opening the whole crisis before an International Tribunal that will dictate terms and condition on matters that have not already been resolved by the parties of concern The International Tribunal ruling will have to be imposed onto the parties of concern.

The latter of the two choices will require at least a twenty year twelve-step program to peace and security. With the United Nations, League of Arab Nations, NATO, European Union and the NGO’s of humanity coming together for a twenty year mission. Israel and the United States will be called before the International Tribunal as well as any other nations or people involved war crimes related to this crisis. Each side will have a chance to present their case with the International Tribunal making the final ruling which is a ruling of a settlement more than punishment.

Any military aggressive action taken by any of the parties involved after the International Peacekeepers have entered the region will be judged much more harshly than war crimes committed in the past.

· Stop the fighting
· Move in International Peacekeepers
· Set-up the Peace table for long term negations
· Set-up long term international relief efforts
· Set up the International Tribunal
· Resolve the agreeable difference outside the International Tribunal
· International Tribunal gives ruling on unsettled matters
· Enforcement of International Tribunal rulings
· The monitoring of the situation on the ground
· Fine tuning of any problems
· The dismembering of the International Tribunal
· A world wide celebration for peace


How about:

* disarm Hizbollah as the UN demanded
* Put international, though not UN troops on border
* If either side fires upon such troops, sanctions will fall swift and punitive
 
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Kathianne said:
How about:

* disarm Hizbollah as the UN demanded
* Put international, though not UN troops on border
* If either side fires upon such troops, sanctions will fall swift and punitive


AGREED
AGREED
AGREED
MORE TO FOLLOW LATER

P.S. Please don't lower my rating because I agreed with you. David
 

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David2004 said:
AGREED
AGREED
AGREED
MORE TO FOLLOW LATER

P.S. Please don't lower my rating because I agreed with you. David
You got it! I await your next post.

David2004, there must be an answer other than the annhilation of Israel, because that is not going to happen.
 

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David2004 said:
Only by a truly international effort can the Israeli crisis in the Middle East be resolved once and for all. It will be the United States and Israel verses the community of nations of the world with a very few exceptions. Possibly.The platform and manner that the difference between the parties can be resolved will be up to the United States and Israel. Well, so far they (the US and Israel)are in agreement. I suspect thoughthat there would have to be at least minimal cooperation with the Islamic terrorists, the terrorist lead countries and others.Basically they have two choices with the first being they continue to dictate term and conditions that will eventually led to more wars and military conflicts as it has for the last sixty years. Again, the Arabs have had a hand in this too...Or two we can change course drastically opening the whole crisis before an International Tribunal that will dictate terms and condition on matters that have not already been resolved by the parties of concern The International Tribunal ruling will have to be imposed onto the parties of concern. I hope the US NEVER subverts its soveriegnty to an International ANYTHING!
The latter of the two choices will require at least a twenty year twelve-step program to peace and security. With the United Nations, League of Arab Nations, NATO, European Union and the NGO’s of humanity coming together for a twenty year mission. Never happen except as lip service. Israel and the United States will be called before the International Tribunal as well as any other nations or people involved war crimes related to this crisis. Right...what you really meant is any country supporting the US and/or Israel...the Muslim nations and terrorist organizations get a free pass. Each side will have a chance to present their case with the International Tribunal making the final ruling which is a ruling of a settlement more than punishment. Again, you mean settlement for the Muslims and punishment for the US and Israel.

Any military aggressive action taken by any of the parties involved after the International Peacekeepers have entered the region will be judged much more harshly than war crimes committed in the past.

· Stop the fighting. How? Who enforces this? The UN?·
Move in International Peacekeepers Provided by which country?·

[/INDENT]Set-up the Peace table for long term negations Which countries are on this table?

· Set-up long term international relief efforts Which countries provide the resources?

· Set up the International Tribunal Presided over by whom and which countries have representation on this Tribunal?

· Resolve the agreeable difference outside the International Tribunal What "agreeable differences"?

· International Tribunal gives ruling on unsettled matters Under what authority?

· Enforcement of International Tribunal rulings By whom? In what manner?

· The monitoring of the situation on the ground By whom? With what authority?

· Fine tuning of any problems "Fine tuning"???? I suspect it will require a mighty big sledge hammer to accomplish this fine tuning

· The dismembering of the International Tribunal You really expect that such an organization would disband iteslf?

· A world wide celebration for peace Sure.

I guess we could point out that ALL of this has been tried before. A lot of this is what the UN is supposed to be about with the rest covered by various other organizations such as the World Court and Geneva Convention...all of which are pretty much useless.
 
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The Israelis claim to be and see themselves as the victims of the Arabs. The Arabs claim to be the victim of the Israelis excessive military force. The Palestinians are caught in the middle trying to regain a small portion of their homeland. Clearly most of the nations of the international community see the Palestinian the victim of this life long crisis. With the only major exception being the United States who clearly supports the Israeli military aggression against the Arab people of the Middle East.

The United States and Israel governments are threatening the current governments of Syria and Iran and attack Lebanon. The Lebanese government was unable to control the build-up of the Hezbollah militants on the Israeli border. This military build-up happen over several years with the United Nations Security Council and Israel watching and doing nothing until Israel took their illegal military action. The United States government supplying Israel with the military hardware including bombs and missiles is in violation of the Geneva Convention.

If the United States ever started to be even handed in this life long crisis they would be targeted by the Israeli rightwing fanatics who control the Israeli government. There is very little room for compromise in this crisis and the Israeli have to make the majority of concessions. War Crimes should be brought against the United States and the State of Israel to resolve the crisis once and for all. The Palestinians and Israelis will have the most to gain with peace and security in this crisis. Although neither side will be total happy with the final settlement until long-term peace prevails in the region.

Israel and the United States must down size their military presents in the Middle East. Lebanon must build-up their national military police and National Guard becoming a role model for the region. A better balance between the allocation of resources nations spend on military and humanitarian needs will make the world a safer and more secure place. The nations of “haves” must lead by example and not by military force.
 

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David2004 said:
The Israelis claim to be and see themselves as the victims of the Arabs. The Arabs claim to be the victim of the Israelis excessive military force. The Palestinians are caught in the middle trying to regain a small portion of their homeland. Clearly most of the nations of the international community see the Palestinian the victim of this life long crisis. With the only major exception being the United States who clearly supports the Israeli military aggression against the Arab people of the Middle East.

The United States and Israel governments are threatening the current governments of Syria and Iran and attack Lebanon. The Lebanese government was unable to control the build-up of the Hezbollah militants on the Israeli border. This military build-up happen over several years with the United Nations Security Council and Israel watching and doing nothing until Israel took their illegal military action. The United States government supplying Israel with the military hardware including bombs and missiles is in violation of the Geneva Convention.

If the United States ever started to be even handed in this life long crisis they would be targeted by the Israeli rightwing fanatics who control the Israeli government. There is very little room for compromise in this crisis and the Israeli have to make the majority of concessions. War Crimes should be brought against the United States and the State of Israel to resolve the crisis once and for all. The Palestinians and Israelis will have the most to gain with peace and security in this crisis. Although neither side will be total happy with the final settlement until long-term peace prevails in the region.

Israel and the United States must down size their military presents in the Middle East. Lebanon must build-up their national military police and National Guard becoming a role model for the region. A better balance between the allocation of resources nations spend on military and humanitarian needs will make the world a safer and more secure place. The nations of “haves” must lead by example and not by military force.

Do you have any idea how stupid you look ? :cuckoo:
 

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Let me spell it out for you David. Israel is a hardline, fiercely defensive country in the middle of a bunch of hostile neighbors who want her dead. The Palestinians don't want peace with the Israelis. They're not trying to claim some bit of their homeland, or they would have been trying against Jordan and Egypt when they control it. Instead, they elect terrorist organizations to the parliment and desperately try to blow up the Israelis. Here's the thing. Israel claims it's a victim, and it's the victim that fights back. Every time Israel settles down and thinks their neighbors are going to get along with them, some jackass launches another military or terrorist campaign against them. Whenever Israel retaliates in an effort to wipe out the aggressors, they suddenly claim that they are the victims. That's how it works and the U.N. buys it hook, line, and sinker. That would be like Japan claiming to be victims of a disporportionate aggressor after Midway.
 

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